Jaggaa

Unnecessary bravery

I've seen the most immature replies in this thread, honestly. "Our grandfathers did this, they did that" You know what? Our grandfathers did A LOT of things that we wouldn't do today. They did the best they could, based on what they knew and what they had available to them. 

Now we have seatbelts, airbags, covid masks, hand sanitizer, glasses, mobile phones and if our "grandfathers" had these available to them I'd like to think they would be wise enough to make use of them.

Cricket

During cricket adjust your hair/kes in a way which allows you to wear a helmet and enjoy your life within a safe boundary. 

Don't be a hero, don't get brain damage and don't lose an eye being influence by what an internet martyr is suggesting. A 5.75 ounce cricket ball doesn't care if you're the president of some far dystopian universe, if it hits you in the face you could be facing life long consequences. Guru Nanak wants you to live and enjoy his beautiful kirtan not in a hospital.

The panj pyaare to lead a country?

Country: People from all classes, religions and backgrounds with hopes and dreams of a stronger economic future wanting a fair non-corrupt leadership so that their families have a chance at employment, a safer society

Panj Pyaare, Akaal Takht / Any Takht: Employed reprentatives for a company which owns a collection of "historical" (plus other) establisments. Said employees belong to uneducated, poor and needy families who have managed to work their way through the bureaucracy of the above company and managed to be appointed.

Current Leadership: Corrupt individuals who come from wealthy families, who have maintained their standing in the economic/social system of Punjab who themselves appoint the above and have very little interest in helping the people but more in mainatining what they have.

Hypothetical BSc/MSc Working Class Punjabi: Not going to let that happen and rightfully so.

Reality is far from this idea of a dystopia which many of us have started to wish for. In Punjab where as on the ground the situation is very different from what those living abroad view it as. As children we are taught that the Panj Pyaare are the embodiment of Guru Gobind Singh Jee and as much as I would liked to have thought this to be true, it simply isn't true as demonstrated by the current Sikh establishments and those that are supposedly leading our community.

On 12/23/2019 at 10:35 AM, Guest brampton said:

I grew up in Canada and I have never really integrated into Punjabi culture until of late. Recently, I have been listening to more and more Punjabi music( Sidhu, Karan Aujla) and from there I have realized people still give importance to castes. My father's last name is Chawla and my mom's is Sodhi, but sometimes i still don't feel like a real Punjabi. When I look at my extended family, no-one has cut their hair but I have seen people say " Chawla is a hindu surname".  I don't get why being Jatt is such a big deal.. I think both of my parents are from Khatri roots and I think that is higher than being Jatt, yet everyone around me acts like being Jatt is a superpower. I even saw a post on twitter saying " today is a good day to be a Jatt" or girls saying they are looking for a Jatt man only. I don't know why but this makes me so confused as to think if people actually make assumptions based on my surname. Is being a Khatri looked down upon in punjabi community or does it make me less of a punjabi?

You thought belonging to khatri roots were higher than belong to jatt roots? Tum ko tumara khoob hum ko hamara khoob.

Girls are looking for a jatt man only? That's their choice, respect it or don't but don't cry about it and instead move on.

Is being a khatri looked down upon? Subjective? My own opinion and hopefully other people (I hope !?) is that we have never even though about it?

Chawla surname is hindu surname? Come on, who really care.

There's definetly an element of tribalism but that's just because of familiarity. Everyone wants to belong/be part of those that are familiar. The way a jatt speaks, behaves and certain cultural beliefs he/she holds will be different how say a chinese person behaves. So it's in his/her own interest to make it easier and to belong to familiar ground they go and seek the company of another "jatt". It's not rocket science.

Hopefully you don't have any more confusion.

People will just go to a different Gurdwara.

I've got a couple of weeks of holidays. If you can send me a ticket and a nice hotel to stay in I'd glady fly down.

This is a medical issue and not one for you to be turning to Sikhi I'm afraid. You ask for a 100 views and you'll get a 100 views from "amritdharis" who don't have the issue. Go to your doctor and take his/her advice. 

What movie was this plot from? I remember watching it not so long ago?!

I'm a fullstack c# dev, sounds quite fun - if you need an extra set of eyes I'm more than happy to look over

Can sikhs eat cakes?  You eat gulab jaman while I'm having a bite of that tripple chocolate with vanilla ice cream.

1 hour ago, BhForce said:

What's the point of trying to tell her this? Are we expecting her to leave Christianity for Sikhism?

Secondly, you gave no context for what it is you are quoting. People posted above that Jesus is mentioned nowhere in the Sikh scriptures, so it would be quite confusing to read what you wrote below.

For anyone who doesn't know, the quote is from a biography of the late saint Harnam Singh, a saint of the last half of the 20th century written by his successor.

Finally the quote does not say that Jesus follows Guru Sahib's path, it merely claims that Jesus wants his followers to follow the Guru's path.

I was actually about to write out a reply to that particular post (even typed it out) but I refrained from doing so because I thought he's probably someone really young and going to take it personally but the whole post was very childlike, defensive and was an unnecessary contribution. 

More importantly like you mentioned it's a biography written by his successor - although a very inspirational read (SeKinehya) it is not scripture or Sikh history. 

It's a shame people are unable to have a healthy dialog with people asking questions about the Sikh faith, perhaps the lady who opened the topic will be able to appreciate that on this forum anyone can come and write a post and that if she wants a more clear answer she is better off discussing the religion with people in real life that are more educated and representative of Sikhi and therefore are somewhat qualified to answer questions. 

Sikhism is more than just a religion, that is just a part of it - I would say it has been made for the people to protect their freedom and to save them from oppression which I regret to say is usually caused/manipulated by the stakeholders in a religion and those that influence it's direction.

Sikhs do not believe in the abrahamic definition of a devil as an entity but instead refer to the negativity in this world as a collective (what we call 'Kalyug'). We believe everything is the creator including existence and so it wouldn't make sense for there to be a God vs Devil stereotype. 

The Sikhs have been tempted during many strenuous episodes of war/betrayal and a good example of this would be the two younger children of the 10th leader (Guru Gobind Singh Jee) - both under the age of 10 who were offered riches and kingdom-ship however they stood by their faith resulting in their demise (martyrdom) by being bricked alive. Again, the mughals who tempted and then killed them would not so much be referred to as the DEVIL but certainly the evil amongst men.

Hey, welcome! I'm sure nobody will have a problem with you. Sikhism is a Dharmic faith.

We respect other faiths (which would include Christianity) and their freedom to practice these faiths but do not regard Jesus Christ as a prophet in any special regard. I think there is very little if any mention of him in our scripture or even in any historical literature of ours.

Poll rigged, my favourites not on there

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@puzzled ima have to steal some of those moves from the guy in the video, dayum

16 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

 surely Gurbani is above all this superstitious 'celibate' speak . Our Guru Sahiban were not too impressed by celibacy so why all it is such a feature in modern sikh circles?

how else would they create unique exclusivity for their separated group? if they told people that it was just a nice looking furniture gifted by people who had either collected dead animals skins or hunters - why would that attract any sheep?

No lets reframe it "ONLY A SUPER HUMAN CAN MEDITATE ON A TIGER SKIN, ONE THAT IS CELIBATE OR ONE WOULD BE DESTROYED".

Listen to yourselves, you're literally saying everyone else would be destroyed, the Gurus weren't celibate either..

I grew up around people who are like this, they turn almost any small detail in their sad validation seeking life and justify it with a higher purpose.

4 hours ago, puzzled said:

When your family are farmer's in India it's fun when you visit them LOL 

Iv sat on tractors like the bit at the side on top of the massive back wheel. You need to hold on tight because the pind roads are cracked with big holes and bumps, you can easily go flying off if you don't hold on tight, your bum starts hurting because you end up jumping up and down so much LMAO  The drivers seat is a lot more comfortable lol

Iv sat on the back of a cart with a ox pulling it, milked a cow, fed the cows, ate ghana/sugar cane in the fields, fell into cow dung, got mud all over myself while my thia was doing the rice fields lol.  

I even rode a ricksha lolw LMAO  

Never gnna forget those experiences in the pind... 

we should monetize this and have westeners/non-farmers pay to experience them

On 1/29/2019 at 9:25 AM, jkvlondon said:

Guru ji did it to allow them to have a jagga

On 11/22/2017 at 11:10 PM, harsharan000 said:

as I usually say, stick faithfully strong to sikhee. wahiguru is much much more important than anything anywhere.

Just keep in mind, before one is born, destiny is already tailored  to the milimetere.

And if it is written in one´s destiny to meet someone or have a spouse, believe it, it will sure happen, though that person maybe 7 seas far away, because one has karmic accoount to settle with that person, so is the same, which applies to any of our other relations.

So, relax and cool down, do not get perturbered by these thoughts.

If you eever have to worry for anything at all, just keep a check on yourself, of how much do you engage in His bhakti at His Lotus Feet.

Give yourself up wholeheartedly to Him, and He will look out for your needs as a true Mata/Pita.

I don't think the Sikhi way of things is to just wait for some planned out destiny to unfold and instead is to create it (free will). This sort of advice although may make someone "feel" (keep them in an uncomfortable situation longer) better in the short term in the long term does nothing but delay them taking charge/responsibility of their actions and the outcomes they bring.

You want to start a business but you need a 100k investment, you work hard on building that 100k so that you can start it. Nobody is going to hand that to you, no matter how hard you pray. Having faith in Waheguru is having faith in the opportunity we have been given and in yourself and not waiting for handouts or in this case fairy tales.

Also, the sjw people aren't going to like this but you deserve the truth. To the OP or whoever else is reading this topic. Don't take advice from women about women.

@Redoptics - No matter how hard I couldn't empathise with someone losing the love of their life as I have yet to experience these emotions but I know for a fact that you're going to get through this despite it being such a deep injury. 

From the way you write - it comes across that you are a very giving person and as a man this is what your purpose is. It is great that right now you are having thoughts of looking out for your wife - but in some time I hope that you will find that as a man you're capable of giving to everyone and all scopes of creation, once again.

Also, do not seek any help on an online forum - it isn't the right place. If you find that it's difficult to rationalise and gain your focus back again then seek counsel - I'd suggest seeking counsel of someone who is able to relate to your culture as they will better be able to make sense of why you're feeling what you're feeling.

You guys need to relax, he's young and a little annoying but you're over-thinking this. Stop throwing words like ego and belittle and stop being over-emotional.  If you can't deal with the way he responds then I don't get why you feel the need to pull up on his topics. It's not productive. If anything, I read his posts and read your responses - I'd say you perceive him as a kid and when he says something total opposite to what you expect you see nothing but red.  @GuestKaur2 @Redoptics

@GuestKaur2 - not enough emotion, might want to pretend he just cut your tail off anddddd GO.

5 hours ago, Amit12 said:

GOD and Humanity is the ultimate truth.

Is God in distinction to humanity?

5 hours ago, Amit12 said:

Lol, let's not discuss what did not happen....

Well you don't need to discuss it but if you're answer is anything other than No then explain.

1 minute ago, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

But the Bani would have still been God's word since Guru Sahib was just the one

Are you not part of the one? was the Guru part of a different existence?