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10 hours ago, MahadrasSingh said:

I don't know it depends, could just be a hiccup with their servers/code. Have you tried reaching out on twitter?

Could be, but the website shows the message "THIS WEBSITE IS NO LONGER ACTIVE".

If it was a server/code issue, they would probably have a maintenance page.

I haven't contacted them on Twitter.

Waheguru! Why was such a valuable site taken down?

Does anyone have any information on why it was taken down?

I have found an archive of the site if anyone wants to access it:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180512020112/http://www.neverforget84.com/

I have heard that Bhajanists and 3HO people do not even know the Basic teachings of Sikhi.

On 5/27/2018 at 1:23 AM, MisterrSingh said:

capitalism

Capitalism as a fundamental economic system is based of what people demand.

As we can see, we can all see what Punjab and its people are demanding.

India and Punjab is developing wrong. You can't just skip from a poor "developing" country step to acting all westernized.

Honestly, people have no interest in anything aside from money.

Take for example the Kar Seva Babeh destroying our history, it isn't just a RSS conspiracy, its also people don't care and are too dumb to realize the affects of their actions.

Same dumb types were going to tear down the original brick Akal Takht stage after destroying the Sarkari Takht, but a retired SGPC secretary stopped them from destroying the original Takht built by Chevin Patshah.

From what I hear, Puratan Larivaar Saroops are being Agan Bhet for no reason. The list keeps going on and on.

This is our Ithaas, and the general populous does not care, because "Let's go to Kanneda, drink Daru, and drive cool cars!".

Punjab will be a Desert anyway in the next 50 years unless some MAJOR action is done to stop the stealing of water from Punjab.

Waheguru.... Rab Rakha.

9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

he calls out people who don't act right in a funny lighthearted way

Maybe in his videos, otherwise will go full SJW on people. (Which is why I mentioned I don't like some of his liberal views).

21 hours ago, CanadianSingh said:

I reckon there was a third one, the Bhasaur Singh Sabha it was more radical and it was led by Babu Teja Singh who viewed that if anyone wasn't baptized as a Khalsa was considered a Sikh, and that anyone who associated with a Hindu was viewed negatively from that movement.

Yes, he ran the Panch Khalsa Diwan. Many Gursikhs like Sant Attar Singh Mastuane, Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh, and Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha were part of the Panch Khalsa Diwan.

However, they left after they had gotten word of Bhasaur's insane views.

20 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

The individual you speak of...meh I can't be bothered to explain. In simple terms, he was retarded.

While in the beginning, he was popular, over time his views became insane, and was made tankhyia by the Sri Akal Takht Sahib. He was indeed retarded.

He is the preface to Kala Afghana and the Darshan Rogi missionaries.

On 4/30/2018 at 9:36 PM, Guest Singhh said:

Lets stick to the Maryada. Wear ONLY Kachera - no boxers nothing else.

You can buy Kachera in good quality cotton that isnt see through - even when wet i.e. during Ishnaan (e.g. Having Ishnaan in Sarovar) when having a shower.

Having said that if you wear the CORRECT type of Kachera - in other words:

- The Kachera A'asan and Ghera should be lengthly when sewn so when the naala (strings to tie Kachera) is woven through you will accumulate grooves of the Kachera kapra. These grooves - over lapping of material is what helps cover your modesty.

- Kachera should be long enough to the start of your knee caps - again this covers modesty and so there are no "peak holes."

Please don't break the maryada, Guru Gobind Singh Ji knows what He's chatting about, if he wanted us to wear boxers He would've said. 

Obviously, women are required to put some form of under garments on during their monthly period to keep the Kachera from soiling.

Agreed! Nice Post!

2 hours ago, CanadianSingh said:

Due to the fact that Hinduism was influencing Sikhism greatly during that time, and in fact there was caste in Sikhism during those days, the British had data of the population of certain caste of Sikhs like Jatts, and etc, during the time when they were carving Hindustan, the Mazhabi Sikhs wanted their own land, Majabistan , it also seemed that Master Tara Singh must've been responsible for causing the Dalits to not convert to Sikhism. As Tara was a Hindu Khatri Malholtra before he became a Sikh, and around that time Khatri's were discriminatory and had Hindu Practices. Even look at the Khatri's before Tara they were discriminatory as well, ironically one of the leaders of the Singh Sabha was a Bedi who was descended from Guru Nanak and wanted to be called Sanatan Sikhs and wanted to be associated with Sikhism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singh_Sabha_Movement

 

There were two Singh Sabhas

The one you mentioned with Khem Singh Bedi was the Amritsar Singh Sabha while the Singh Sabha we generally associate with is the Lahore Singh Sabha.

Khem Singh Bedi believed since he was a decedent of Guru Nanak, he sat himself on a throne and had people do Chaur of him as "Guru".

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

Whatever was meant to happen, happened. It is what it is and nothing can change that 

Yea, Guru Sahib de Hukam vich hoaeaa.

Too fairy tale-ish, Apne will still have ruined it somehow, sadly.

21 hours ago, MrDoaba said:

ॐ

ਆਖੋ ਜੀ ਸਤ੍ਯਨਾਰਾਯਣ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਨਮੋ ਨਮ:

ੴ

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਏ ਨਮਹ

I'm honestly surprised how easily people believe heresay and malarkey.

It's the conspiracy theorists who think that Singh Sabha turned Sikhi into some Abhramic thing.

Anyone who properly reads Gurbani and does Khoj and Vichaar with Gursikhs knows Sikhi is nothing like Abrahamic Religions.

At the time, we had great Gursikhs like Sant Gurbachan Singh Khalsa Bhindrawale, Sant Attar Singh Mastuane, Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji, Baba Harnaam Singh Ji Rampur, and countless others.

Modern SGPC as we all know are Badal de Chamche. Sadly, I rather have SGPC Mahants over the pre-Singh Sabha Mahants.

On 6/24/2009 at 11:21 AM, UKGupt Kaur said:

Gurbani.org

Just wanna let people know that this is a missionary site, unless I am wrong.

7 hours ago, ADMIN said:

We are now using SSL

Please let us know if there are any issues e.g. missing images, broken links etc.

Singh, you could have gotten a free Wildcard LetsEncrypt Certificate.

Challo, at least our logins are secure now (I Hope)

When are we going to see HTTPS support?

On 4/21/2018 at 11:53 PM, Wicked Warrior said:

To allow variations can lead to questioning the authenticity and hence validity of Bani.

Well Sadly, this is the case. No current printed saroop is the same as the Damdami Birh.

These we're not Ram Raiye who made these mistakes while copying Saroops. They had no intent to change the meanings, it just that they introduced many human mistakes while copying.

The worst offenders, sadly, are the artistic saroops written during the time of Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Sure these saroops look very nice and are artistic, but most were written by scribes who didn't have Gurbani Vidhya.

I am referring to the various Lagamatra differences.

Another sad this is when panthic scholars try to study Puratan saroops, they are labeled Ram Raiye when in truth they are doing in Good faith to make Gurbani Shudh as possible to the Damdami Birhh.

Books like Paath Beedan Di Sochi by Gyani Gyan Singh Nihung is one example, but because people don't have interest, the book is out of print.

If you are interested in this topic, that book is somewhere on Punjab Digital Library, it shows various variations in Puratan saroops.

Serious question though, how would one use a Dori Kirpan practically? Like how would it be used?

I think thats why some people say its just for show because maybe you can't use it well? I wouldn't know.