Pakandi baba

Any person with knowledge of the SGGS can guide you. There is no need for a 3rd party (or a human 'Guru' as you seem to think this is the only way!). Through the SHABAD you can connect with Waheguru! These imposters teach you that only through a 'human guru' can you achieve mukti, this so they can have a large following and the donations keep rolling in! I should know! Please wake up and submit to Gurmat!

Seen these before. Dsigusting stuff, but what can you do!

You compare these Kanjar to be 'Gurus' how dare you! What power do these people possess that would lead us to believe that they are 'Gurus' none i tell you, none! And you certainly can't be a Kaur if you believe in these imposters!! ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਦਾ ਸਦਾ ਨਾ ਆਵੈ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ My True Guru, forever and ever, does not come and go. (SGGSJ, Ang 759) Then how can a human guru liberate others when he himself is in the cycle of death and birth? His physical body which he claims as the guru is perishable. After one human dies the followers start following another person as the "true" guru. This cycle goes on.

LMAO :lol: I find that hilarious, how can such cretins begin to believe such tripe! Hmmm, perhaps i to am a 'reincarnation' Of Guruji!

That's like saying pictures of Jesus being crucified arises hatred towards jews! History is history!

you miss the point, its not what Guruji looks like, its what they are portrayed as. Baba Nand Singh Ji painted a saroop of Guru Nanak Devji based on partak darshan. Just coz its wrong to worship something doesnt mean its wrong to have it. 161553[/snapback] 1 - Why not go that little bit further and get an actor to 'portray' the Guruji? 2 - Baba Nand Singh Ji may have doen, but i may be wrong here but did Guruji not tell him that it was wrong?

Soho road Gurdwara holds one every month i think, that's when my mum went. It is in Birmingham though. Phone up and see! Gurdwara Nishkam Sewak Jatha 18-20 Soho Road B66 4JS Tel: 0121 558 9048.

Eh ki? :lol:

We need a little humour sir. Enough serious threads if you look :TH:

160266[/snapback] You've made valid points. Until we begin to address such matters Sikhism will always be compared to Hinduism. Believe it or not but it's little things like this, that take us away from what Guruji has taught us!

I agree with the 'ALL SGGS Ji's Saroop's should be kept in a Gurdwara' But you konw my stand on the pictures!

But Sir, they are not Gurus pictures, they are what the artist perceives them to be. And it's Idolatry!!!

LOL true! but some offer a bulk booking (10 lessons for £100) kind of thing, may be a bit more now, as i did take mine in 1999. Don't know why i bothered, because i now have my chele to chauffeur me around! Anyway if you visit me you can pass without taking lessons, and i only charge £15/20. Bring the whole family, make it a day out! :e:

Talking of sheep, anyone see that advert for Anchor butter, the one with those two cows and the cow who's sitting on the tree branch says he sees a 'cloud with legs' man i find that hilarious. I love those creature comfort characters

Well i wouldn't take lessons off my dad (only person to crash into a stationery car whilst attemtpting to park) I went with BSM A nice english chap.

OH DA TED DOKHDA!! Typical punjabi response :e:

You'd think with the amount of 'Sikh' Organisations we'd have numerous TV broadcasts continuously!

Well this does happen, but fortunately not on a regular basis We have good and bad in all religions

I ge that all the time....

Even sheep need lovin... 161456[/snapback] if you can call that lovin' 161458[/snapback] You think they should wine n dine them first?

Even sheep need lovin... 161456[/snapback] Idont think i want to be a sheep anymore 161459[/snapback] Become Guru Ji's Lion RAAAA :TH:

Even sheep need lovin...

Three safe in fire at Sikh temple Three men have been led to safety following a suspected arson attack at a Sikh temple in Wolverhampton. Crews were called to the fire after two wheelie bins were found alight outside the Guru Nanak Gurdwara Sikh Temple in Arthur Street in Bilston. The fire spread to the ground floor of the building just before 0100 BST and the three people inside were freed. Police have said they are treating the fire as arson and have asked any witnesses to contact them. Second one of late, no?

You've hit the nail on the head! Get rid of the Budhe Gurdwara fronters, who when approached shoo the youth away with a simple 'Your a child you don't know' attitude! These idiots forget they won't be sitting around in years to come, and if they don't allow the youngsters to participate who's going to look after the Gurdwaras? Just look at all the old churches! :wub:

Shiva, Brahma and all the silent sages cannot understand the state of the Lord. Guru Arjun Dev Ji The wise one, Shiva, remains absorbed in himself, but he is engrossed in dark passions and excessive egotism. ||2|| Guru Amar Daas Ji Raag Vadhans p559 Shiva meditates through lakhs of methods (postures) but still could not recognise the form, hue and guise of the Lord. Vishnu incarnated himself through lakhs of creatures but he could not recognise even a bit of that Lord. Var18. Beings like Sanak, Sanand, Shiva and Shaysh-naaga - none of them know Your mystery, Lord. ||1|| Bhagat Kabeer Ji Raag Dhanaasree p691 Satnam Waheguru Ji