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Thank you do you know anything about B40?

I have been reading some of books about Sikhi recently and I was wondering if W.H McLeod is a good author and which of his books shall I read?

Sangat Ji I haven't been able to leave this forum as I have a addiction to this forum so I come here to make my final post for atleast a couple of month. I leave as this forum is becoming a distraction. Instead of reading path I scroll through this forum. Thank You Because of the Sangat I realized the true Sikhi and because of this forum I learned so much but I must put my hat down. I am planning on going on a spiritual journey and I want to spend my life in Naam Simrin so I just want to say Thank you and Goodbye. May Vahguru bless us all and save us from Maya. Vahguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vahguru Ji Ki Fateh I am truly thankful for all the sangat has done for me and for many others but I must leave.

Whatever martial art you know just don't fight against someone with a knife as most likely you will be injured or die no matter what.

I was reading a bit of Bachitar Natak and it says that the trinity thought they were Supreme so Guru Ji (Guru Ji is speakingas God) created 8 Sakshis in order to give evidence for their entity It failed and people countined rituals so Guru Ji/Vahgurh created Sidhs but they worshiped Devtas. Then many Rishis were created who all sang parise of themselves. Then I created Dutt by they did not know the way of the Lord. Then I created Gorakh who made great kings disciples. His disciples wore rings in their ear and forgot the Lord. Guru Ji lists many more people then he say I created Mohammed who was made the master of Arabia. He started a religion and circumcised all the kings. He caused all to utter his name not the name of the Lord. Everyone was parying to others not the Supreme Brhaman(Vahguru) When I was busy in Meditation the Lord called me and snet me to the Earth with following words. I have adopted you as my son and hath created you for the propagation of the panth. You go therefore for the spread of Dharam and cause people to retrace their steps for evil action. I stood up with folded hands boeing my head said The panth sahll prevail only in the world with your assistance. Whatever the lord has told me I have wrriten the same This from Bachitar Natak is so interesting and deep. Thoughts

You know that MMA is just a mix of the best martial arts like BJJ, Boxing Kickboxing etc.

I think both

So, I was reading this book called Life of Guru Nanak Dev Ji and His Teachings by Dalip Singh. In it he tells how in chapter 2 of Bachitar Natak Guru Ji tells how the world was created. It says "When the formless God effected the expansion of the universe by uttering a word, (Oankar) He created the Earth. At the onset He created the matter of the five elements (Maya), from it a most beautiful and powerful king named Kalsain (Vishnu) emerged. The second king produced was Kalkait (Brahma) and the third Koorrbaras (Shiva). The fourth was Kaldhuj (Mahavishnu), from Whom the whole creation emerged. God has thousands of beautiful eyes and thousands of lovely feet. He has enthroned Himself on the bed cushion pf multi-headed Hydra Serpent and He is remembered by the people, the One seated on the coiled body of Hydra Serpent. God extracted wax from one of His ears, from which Madh and Kitab were produced. He then extracted wax from the other ear, from which this universe was created. He then cursed Madh and Kitab to be killed. Their body fluids were thrown into the ocean. The gluey and oily matter of their body fluids began to float on the surface of water and from thence onward the creation was named after Madh. Those who perform good deeds in this universe are remembered as godly persons, while the evil doers are called demons." It is very interesting to see what Guru Ji wrote. After this Dalip Singh Ji said "Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji in this myth first gives ideas of Guru Nanak as Given in Japji, that the Universe was brought into existence by utterance of One Word by God. In this way God created the Three Gods of Hindu Trinity, Brhama, Vishnu, Shiva, signifying creation of Matter (Maya) of three modes, from which the whole universe was created. God is further stated to be resting on the coils of the body of Hydra Serpent. This myth is the modification of the Puranic Myth of Creation." Thoughts

Not a doubter but are we just gonna trust a random guy who said some years.

Feels and seems more like Sikhawareness which I like

B40 I think

And where did Kavi Ji say this?

Well every one has different answers. It depends on your understanding of Bani. I personally don't have a belief as I need to do more research on this topic.

Kalki avatar and Nehklank are actually the same person. Just a different name. As far as I know Kaljug began after the death of Krishna. The origins of Kalki avatar are from the Puranas. Kalki comes in Vishnu Purana and Bhagwat Purana. Also Kalki Purana

You could find many granths and more on Gurmat Veechar.com and it is not form Kukha.

Was Hanuman Natak wrriten by Guru ji, Hanuman or a Kavi?

Agreed

Well you make a good point but I still will stick with my belief as I think if it is in gurbani and has been said by a Sant it must be true but us regular humans can't understand and doubt.

Well yes but one of the times India only sent the police was really an attack they sent them to stop the Sikh gathering. So it is 7 but I saud 6 because the Mughals didn't attack they just vandalized.

Even if we don't believe the Panj Pyare were Bahgats everything is pre wrriten. Guru Ji knew these 5 will come up. The same way Guru Ji knew his kids will become shaheed in Battle of Chamkaur but didn't change the hukam. If Sant Ji and Gurbani says it is true than I will believe them. The Panj Pyare are normal men who in their previous life were Bhagats. The reason why is I believe Vahguru sent the best Bhagats to be the first Sikh of the panth.

I have no opinion on kalki avtar but he or she will not come when the golden temple is attacked.

So, I have heard this thing that the Golden Temple will be attacked 4 times and when it is attacked for the fourth time kalki avtar will come or khalsa raj will happen. No. It will not happen. The Golden Temple has been attack once (You could say twice as once they filled the water with sand) by the Mughals. Twice by the Afghans. And once by India right? Wrong India attacked the Golden Temple 3 times all in 5 years. This is 6 times and I see no Kalki avtar or khalsa raj. So in conclusion this story allegedly in historical granths and sau sakhi also mentioned by some kathavachiks is completely fake.

Khalsa mool mantar. In many Nihang Gutka Sahib. It is in the on I have. Probably in Dasam Granth or Sarbloh Granth. Also Sant Gurbachan in his katha also says the panj pyare previous life.

About the Panj Pyare that actually comes up in gurbani that they were Bhagats in their pervious life.

I don't disagree but what about Bhagat Farid Ji. He was born nearly 200 years before Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Also a couple more Bhagats had died before Guru Nanak.