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9 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:And even when the grown up kids want to marry back into Sikhs, there can be issues because they've been so coconutised.
yup but I have yet to see kids of such marriages marry back into sikhs. Most of them marry whites. There is this half white half punjabi kid who was famous on this social media site called ask.fm where you basically ask people qs. He would become a sikh someday on that site and give people info about sikhi and then other days he would be like sikhi doesnt make sense. It was like 5 years ago and I just realised how most of these kids are just confused people. That kid had mental health issues and would say he wants to go live in india because he hates the culture and women in canada.
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13 hours ago, proactive said:
The Punjabi Hindu has been in decline since the 1880s. Although they like to claim that they are rooted to Punjab, they are mostly landless. The higher caste Hindus are urban dwellers while the lower castes own very little land. Each decadal census from 1881 to 1941 commented on the decline of the Punjabi Hindu. The decline was actually greater because the Punjabi Hindu population was artificially boosted by the Hindus of Haryana and Himachal which were a part of Punjab during British times. If we look at the core Punjab areas - all of west Punjab and the present east Punjab historically, the Hindu population was declining on a large scale.
The only reason that Hindu population in Punjab has increased in the last two decades is due to the migration of Bhaiyas from Bihar and UP. So from a declining population the Hindus in Punjab have had their population artificially boosted by migration into Punjab.
Punjab has nearly 2.5 million migrants which is 9% of the total population. If we take that 100,000 of these could be Sikhs who migrated to Punjab from the rest of India after the genocide of 1984. After 1984 there was also an outmigration from Punjab of Punjabi Hindus who settled in Delhi and Haryana but the numbers were small possibly 20,000 at most and many came back to Punjab in the 1990s.
If we take off another 200,000 who are Muslim Bhaiyas so that leaves 2.2 million Hindu Bhaiyas who have migrated to Punjab and who are included in the census figures for 2011.
In 1971 when there were very few Bhaiyas in Punjab the population of Sikhs in Punjab was 60.22% and the Punjabi Hindus were 37.54% after 40 years of migration of Bhaiyas into Punjab in 2011 the Sikh population was 57.69% and the Hindu population was 38.49%. The population of Punjab was 27.7 million in 2011.
In absolute numbers Punjab's Hindu population in 2011 was 10.7 million and the Sikh population was 16 million.
If we deduct these Hindu migrants from the total population of Punjab 27.7 - 2.2 millions bring Punjab's population to 25.5 million.
Deducting the Hindu Bhaiya population from Punjab's Hindu population 10.7 - 2.2 million bring the Hindu population of Punjab to 8.5 million.
So without the migration of Hindu Bhaiyas the Punjabi Hindu population was 33.3% and Punjab's Sikh population would have been 62.7% a slight increase from 60.22%
If we take into account the larger number of Sikh migrants leaving Punjab for abroad compared to the number of Hindus leaving this would make the Sikh population percentage even greater.
I think migrants are 50% population of Punjab. Even in the villages of Punjab I dont see any punjabis anymore the last time I visited.
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22 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:Is this in Canada marriage to Bengali muslim??
tbh, i think if they willing to convert to islam for marriage (as bad as it sounds) then they were not really 'Sikhs' 1st place..at least the kids wont be 'half IsLam half SiKh' lol...i think thats better then half hindu/Sikh...i think thats worse because most likely to be bollywood version of Sikhi they will follow...and the narrative 'Sikhs are Hindus'..i used to believe vice versa not not anymore
From what i have seen recent yrs and local Gurdwares, there alot more whites, black, Chinese Asian half's with Punjabi parent that are into Sikhi keep kes, going Sunday Punjabi school etc...some from distance family married goras and they are practicing Sikhs made sure they stuck to their culture, would send them live in Punjab when they were younger and did schooling there...more so then some 'Punjabi Sikh' families who just Sikh by being born into it nothing else..typical punjabi jatts religion
Idk here in canada all interracial marriages with sikhs ,99% of these sikhs dont care about religion and culture. Intermarriage is death sentence for sikhs and punjabis in general. The kids are just gonna marry the dominant group.
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3 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:Sunil dad lusted Sikh blood..both of them are Sikh haters...hardcore gandhis
they want 'Sikh cm' likes of kps gill types ..
Hindus have no shame. India is a shithole because of them. Maybe they should just give the rule to us?
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9 hours ago, Premi5 said:Some people never change.
Quite pathetic really since most of their ancestors only converted to save their lives and/or zameen/businesses etc
They can continue their fantasies. They have no peace of mind or sense of dharam
Funniest thing is how they love to be associated with arabs and Turks while those groups literally despise Pakistanis. And there are alot of apne too who do similar things on reddit and claim how they look persian Arab or south European. So pathetic.
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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:Don't forget how this industry has done more than any other thing to make casteism worse in the panth.
I don't mind creative fusion and I appreciated some of Panjabi MCs earlier work. But where it's gone now.....
How can we stop this menace? They make it because it sells and earns them money. Money is their god. They dont care about anything else.
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13 minutes ago, 5aaban said:Our people are totally a gone case. So greedy. Literally I feel ashamed now.
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On 2/1/2022 at 2:50 PM, 5aaban said:Some artists go through this phase where dye their hair neon pink/yellow/green, wear skimpy clothing, drink and kind of "don't care about the world". I think this particular singer had a bad breakup as well.
A lot of Panjabi singers are also trying to copy rap music and black culture in their songs.
Have you seen their hairstyles and the dresses they wear?
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49 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:She converted don't use the 'reverted' word. It's a new concept that suggests we were all muslims to begin with. Don't use it and validate it please.
How can everyone be born muslim when they have to circumcise the males ? They dont even accept the natural human form. They say god makes no mistakes then what the hell is circumcision for? If it wasnt needed god wouldnt make it in the first place no? Weird religion. And then they made up this revert word lol.
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On 2/1/2022 at 3:29 PM, Kau89r8 said:Ya she is converted..eid pics...they also met whilst doing bhangra at uni together
Chaloo
This is united Punjab brings us...alot of Poonjabi Sikhs dream about it ...
I thought intermarriage was supposed to help spread sikhi to people of other races according to liberals. Lol nice joke.anyone who thinks intermarriage of sikhs with other groups of people will spread sikhi is dumb. 99% of kids from such marriages never become sikhs. Dont show me 1 2 rare examples. In my own school there was this half punjabi half italian kid with a sikh father. Two elder sisters married bengali muslim and some gora respectively. Sikhi ended in the lineage. Sikhi is never going to spread like Islam through intermarriage because our people are weak and will throw their religion away just to marry some random person from another group.
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2 hours ago, Premi5 said:
Beyond Badals and Amarinder, four political families look to regain lost glory in Punjab
Grandsons of eminent figures — ex-CMs Partap Singh Kairon & Beant Singh, ex-Union minister & Lok Sabha Speaker Balram Jakhar, Akali leader Gurcharan Tohra — are in fray in state polls.
30 January, 2022 02:00 pm ISTText Size: A- A+Chandigarh: The Punjab assembly elections on 20 February will decide the electoral fortunes not only of the state’s two most prominent families — the Badals and the dynasty of Captain Amarinder Singh, former Maharajas of Patiala — but also of the heirs of those fading clans who once dominated the state’s political space.
The kin of half a dozen former chief ministers of Punjab, and of former top Sikh leaders and leading politicians, are in the fray in these elections. ThePrint profiles four such leaders, and the legacies they seek to uphold or reclaim.
Adaish Pratap Singh Kairon
Senior Akali leader Adaish Pratap Singh Kairon (62), who is contesting from the Patti seat in the Majha region, is the grandson of former Congress chief minister Partap Singh Kairon — considered one of the most eminent leaders of post-partition Punjab.
The elder Kairon began his career as a leader of the Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) before joining the Congress in 1941. Following Partition, he was responsible as rehabilitation minister for managing the huge influx of Hindus and Sikhs from Pakistan into Punjab, and helping them settle down.
He served as chief minister of Punjab for eight years (1956-1964), before Haryana was carved out of the state in 1966. He is credited with building several modern-day institutions in Punjab and Haryana. However, his family faced allegations of corruption, and although an inquiry exonerated him of the major charges, he resigned as chief minister in 1964. He was assassinated in what’s now Haryana the following year, while he was on his way from Delhi to Chandigarh. The assassins, who had a personal grudge against Kairon, were hanged in 1969.
Kairon’s two sons, Surinder Singh and Gurinder Singh, also entered politics, with Surinder serving as both an MLA and an MP. However, while Gurinder remained in the Congress, Surinder joined the SAD and married his son Adaish to Akali Dal patron Parkash Singh Badal’s daughter, Praneet Kaur.
Adaish, an engineer who did his MBA in the US, is a four-time MLA from Patti. He served as food and civil supplies minister in the Badal government from 2012 to 2017. In the upcoming polls, he faces his old opponent, Harminder Singh Gill of the Congress, who defeated him in Patti in 2017.
Also read: Channi and Sidhu put Rahul Gandhi on notice over Congress’ Punjab CM face
Kanwarveer Singh Tohra
Kanwarveer Singh Tohra is the grandson of Akali stalwart Gurcharan Singh Tohra, who was known as the ‘Pope of the Sikhs’. Kanwarveer joined the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) on 11 January with his wife. He is the son of Kuldeep Kaur — Gurcharan Singh Tohra’s adopted daughter — and former Akali minister Harmail Singh. Kanwarveer is now the BJP’s candidate in the Amloh constituency.
A major figure in Sikh politics, Tohra developed his own rebellious path within the Akali Dal and earned the sobriquet of “forever dissenter”. He served for a record 27 years as president of the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC), the body that controls all historical Sikh shrines.
Considered to be a hardliner, Tohra was seen as soft on Sikh militant groups led by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale. He was president of the SGPC during Operation Blue Star, the 1984 military operation to flush out militants from the Golden Temple.
Tohra dabbled in electoral politics and was elected to the Rajya Sabha multiple times, although his mainstay remained Sikh religious affairs. His son-in-law, Harmail Singh, won from the Dakala constituency in the 1997 assembly elections and became a minister in Badal’s cabinet.
Badal and Tohra had a falling out in 1998, which led to the former having the latter removed as SGPC president and expelling him from the SAD. Harmail also resigned from Badal’s cabinet.
Tohra then formed his own party, the Sarv Hind Shiromani Akali Dal. But when both his party and the SAD were defeated in the 2002 assembly elections, Badal and Tohra reconciled and the two parties merged in 2003. Tohra died of a heart attack in 2004.
Harmail unsuccessfully contested the 2002 and 2007 assembly elections from Dakala on an Akali ticket. Meanwhile, Kuldeep Kaur was elected as a member of the SGPC, a post she continues to hold. Their elder son, Harinder Pal, became senior vice president of the Youth Akali Dal.
Kuldeep contested as an SAD candidate in the Patiala Rural constituency in the 2012 assembly elections, but was defeated. The family then joined the Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) ahead of the 2017 polls, in which Kuldeep contested from the Sanour seat but lost. The family returned to the Akali fold ahead of the 2019 parliamentary polls, but Kanwarveer joined the BJP in January.
Kanwarveer, an engineer and MBA graduate, will be contesting elections for the first time.
Also read: Majha votes, Punjab follows? Not just Sidhu vs Majithia, here’s why all eyes are on this region
Gurkirat Kotli
Gurkirat Kotli (49), the sitting Congress MLA from Khanna, who is fighting to retain his seat, is the grandson of former chief minister Beant Singh.
Beant Singh entered politics after a brief stint in the Army, and rose from the ranks of the Congress to finally reach the top in 1992, when he took over as chief minister.
Credited with ending decades of militancy in Punjab, Beant Singh paid the price with his own life. He was assassinated by Sikh militants using a human bomb in 1995.
Beant Singh’s eldest son, Tej Prakash, was inducted into the cabinet by the next chief minister, Harcharan Singh Brar, and won from the family seat of Payal several times. But it was his younger son, Swaranjit, who Beant Singh had groomed for politics. However, Swaranjit had died in a car accident in 1985.
Swaranjit’s son, Ravneet Bittu, was chosen by Rahul Gandhi to contest the parliamentary constituency of Anandpur Sahib in 2009, which he won. He went on to win the Ludhiana Lok Sabha seat in 2014 and 2019.
Beant Singh’s youngest child, Gurkanwal Kaur, also entered active politics and won the Jalandhar Cantonment seat in 2002. She was a minister in Capt Amarinder’s cabinet during his first term as CM (2002-2007), but was defeated in the 2007 elections.
After 2008, the family’s traditional seat of Payal was converted into a reserved constituency. Tej Prakash’s son, Gurkirat Kotli, contested from Khanna and won as a Congress candidate in 2012 and 2017. Kotli is the name of the village near Payal where Beant Singh’s family settled after Partition.
After the Congress removed Capt Amarinder Singh as chief minister in September last year, Kotli was included in Charanjit Singh Channi’s new cabinet, despite some opposition from within the party due to Kotli’s controversial past.
Kotli was accused of raping and molesting a French tourist who had visited Punjab in 1994. The charge came to haunt him again last year when the National Commission for Women sought a report on the case from the Punjab government.
Sandeep Jakhar
42-year-old Sandeep Jakhar, is the youngest member of one of the most prominent Hindu Jat political families in Punjab. Grandson of Balram Jakhar, the eminent farmer leader from Rajasthan who made Punjab his home, Sandeep is contesting as Congress candidate from the family’s pocket borough of Abohar.
Balram Jakhar, a Sanskrit scholar, was mentored by Swami Keshwanand, a social reformer. Jakhar joined the Congress and was first elected to the Punjab assembly in 1972 from Abohar, going on to become a deputy minister. He won the seat again in 1977. Parkash Singh Badal took over as chief minister for the second time that year, and Jakhar was chosen as leader of the opposition.
An Indira Gandhi loyalist, Jakhar moved to central politics in 1980 as Lok Sabha MP from Ferozepur, and from 1984 to 1989 and 1991 to 1996 from Sikar in Rajasthan. He remains the longest-serving speaker of the Lok Sabha, from 1980 to 1989.
In 1991, he was inducted into the P.V. Narasimha Rao cabinet as agriculture minister. He was elected to the Lok Sabha again from Bikaner in 1998, and served for a year. He was governor of Madhya Pradesh from 2004 to 2009, and died in 2016.
The year Jakhar shifted his focus to central politics, his eldest son, Sajjan, entered active politics in Punjab. Sajjan first became MLA from Abohar in 1980, but lost the seat to BJP in 1985. He wrested it back in 1992, but was defeated in 1997. He also served as the state’s agriculture minister.
Sajjan’s son, Ajay Vir, an agriculturist, heads the Bharat Krishak Samaj, a farmers’ forum. He was chairperson of the Punjab State Farmers’ & Farm Workers’ Commission till last year, but resigned “due to changed circumstances in the state” after Captain Amarinder was removed, and his uncle, Sunil Jakhar, was overlooked for the chief minister’s post.
Balram Jakhar’s youngest son Sunil won the Abohar seat three times consecutively from 2002 to 2012. He served as leader of the opposition from 2012 to 2017. He was elected to the Lok Sabha from Gurdaspur in a 2017 bypoll, and also headed the state Congress until last year, when he was replaced by Navjot Singh Sidhu. He was tipped to be chief minister after Amarinder’s removal, but it wasn’t to be.
Jakhar’s middle son, Surinder, was involved in the cooperative movement. He served as chairman of Asia’s cooperative fertiliser giant, IFFCO, for multiple terms. Surinder was killed while cleaning his gun at his farmhouse in 2011.
Surinder’s son, Sandeep, was educated at Mayo College, Ajmer and later in Florida. He worked in the US for 10 years before returning to Punjab to enter politics.
(Edited by Rohan Manoj)
They are all slaves of delhi. None of them are going to do anything. We can only wait for india to collapse.Until then nothing can happen. We cannot elect any person who will stand for sikhs because these people wont let it happen.
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13 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:They welcomed so many muslims. RIP to their future.
This is going to be the future of east punjab as well.
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1 minute ago, GurjantGnostic said:?? Because white men come blow it up? And replace it with a less well functioning one??
Naah man. if we look through the lens of sikhi offcourse colonialism slavery is bad but then what about euro countries who were never involved in this. They are still well functioning societies. And please dont tell me indian society was saintly before muslims or britishers came. Oppression was always there. First it was lower caste people and then when invaders came it was all castes. Cant blame everything on others. I used to think things were bad because of invaders but now I think there is something wrong with the society as a whole. India is the way it is because it oppresses sikhi which will bring justice back to that land. Hinduism is a corrupted religion and they are not ready to accept this.
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On 1/30/2022 at 2:08 PM, Jacfsing2 said:The problem is, any brain drain outside of Punjab is still not centered on developing Punjab to prevent future brain drains. A Sikh youth could hypothetically have the goal to develop Punjab after being successful, but due to constraints and being tied down somewhere else, it becomes harder as each generation goes by to make Punjab
If white men can build well functioning countries all over the world why cant our men do it?
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8 hours ago, Premi5 said:
Might be difficult to get accurate data, and under-reported in India, but it is not in the top 10 here:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country
Here are the 10 countries with the highest rape rates:
- Botswana (92.93)
- Australia (91.92)
- Lesotho (82.68)
- South Africa (72.10)
- Bermuda (67.29)
- Sweden (63.54)
- Suriname (45.21)
- Costa Rica (36.70)
- Nicaragua (31.60)
- Grenada (30.63)
How many are reported in india?
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2 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:And we are supposed to live without fear amongst such uncivilized people. That area has always been uncivilized. My mom told me once when they were in college they were going to see the taj mahal by train and when they were near Delhi- UP border and the train was stopped at some station, a large group of men found out the train compartment had female tourists and they started banging on the door, asking to open it and throwing stones and attacking the door. My mom said eveyone got so scared and started doing paath. Then some army army personnel were nearby and they were called by some1 from another compartment and they helped kick these people away. My mom said I never went near that area again ever.
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On 3/29/2021 at 9:49 AM, WaljinderSingh said:
I think OP should give some reference to the claim of who actually said about kalki avtar appearing and when.
In Chaubies Avtar, Guru Gobind Singh ji writes about the time when Kalki will come. This time is believed to be towards the end of Kalyug.
Historically, Kalyug began when King Parakshit ( grandson of Arjun - one of the pandavas) died. So, we are a little over 5,100 years in Kalyug.
Put that in perspective of the total age of Kalyug being 432,000 years!
About Nehklank ( meaning stainless) , Guru Granth Sahib and Guru Khalsa are Nehklank.
Society has degraded so much how is it possible that there are still 400k years left to go? So this will get worse for another 400k years. Wow unbelievable.
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3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:^^^^^
Face it people. Right now, THIS is what we are known for by many.....balle balle
Yup I'm so embarassed by all this. How can anyone take us seriously? Literally hate that tunak tunak tun song .
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23 hours ago, justasking said:
idk how to feel about these girls i mean in the end they knew tht the guy they were with was pakistani so why did they board on the plane to pakistan seems like they had no loyalty to Sikhi maybe only their families should handle this mess instead of relying on the community
They show their back to our religion and then expect us to help them out when things go bad. Sorry but good riddance.
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6 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:
They live on a fortress island. Makes it harder to invade. Normans did it successfully, as did Vikings and others, Germans failed repeatedly recently.
But how many foreign invasions have they had? We have suffered so many invasions from foreign groups. Even if you search online they say india is the most invaded country in the world but india didnt even exist back then. Punjab was the frontier for majority of these invasions. It's also funny when Indians say india was divided and cry over it when punjab and Bengal suffered the division and its aftermath.
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On 1/25/2022 at 11:32 AM, Kau89r8 said:
Punjab has had so many invasions since the past 2000 years. Our people are constantly fighting off invaders then how can we invent stuff when we are constantly under stress and fighting? How many invasions have the anglos had?
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We lost the war and the British took our wealth. Honestly we need to accept our defeat and learn from our mistakes but majority of our people are too dumb to understand this. They dont even have enough self awareness to realize that their minds have been colonized and subjugated which is why you see them always trying to assimilate. A person who understands this wouldn't want to ever loose their identity.
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Punjab would have been better if all hindus would have been sent out. Sorry but hindus have always backstabbed us and I dont like them.