Big_Tera

Kids today can learn online. In our day all we had is Sunday Punjabi class. So should be no excuses for the little Harry putars out there to learn.

I actually think some Pakistani Punjabis can speak better then some indian Punjabis. Some Apne struggle and barely make sense with their Punjabi.I can barely make out what they are saying. With so much stuttering and unclear speech.

Many Kids today can't even speak English properly let alone Punjabi. I alway make an effort to speak Punjabi when I can. But sometimes Hindi words come out by mistake lol

Bollywood is all about promoting hindi do language and religion. So many of fillable Sikhs watch these movies and get negatively influenced. Hindu actress are a discrace. Marrying khan's and converting.

Not all Punjabi movies are as you described. There are some good ones with meaningful plots and storylines. But if you don't like watching Punjabi movies then that is your choice. Continue to watch your English movies such as Hari putar or potter as he is known in the west.

You sound like the kind of guy with his head firmly screwed on. You also dont like Punjabi movies but like English ones. Thats why from now on im going to call you Harry Putar. As you would make a good Punjabi version of Harry Potter. Im not saying Punjabi movie industry is perfect. Its far from it. But lets face it our lot a big time movie watchers so might aswell watch punjabi instead of hindi.

Maybe because you have become so westernised. That Punjabi language films don't interest you? Its easy to lose touch with your own culture while growing up in western countries. You should give them a try. I hardly watch English movies and songs. As can relate more to my own cultural movies. Today's generation are more into western media and movies. I call them the Harry potter generation. Who laugh at their own culture but love the western culture and luv to bend over to the white man.

Yep I'm not one for the whole movie thing and don't watch slot of them. But if your going to watch a movie once in a while for recreation time. It should be a Punjabi movie. Not Hindi.

Not sure what your on. But I would take less of it if I was you. This is the topic about class not for Loonies like you to come on and spew your nonsense. Just because I don't talk like a ragga muffin like you. That makes me poncy. You sound like one of those hood rats that despises middle class people as you feel inferior to them. Your obviously lower class and can't speak to upper class people like me. Lol

You sound like a typical desi ragga muffin. That probably has no idea where he belongs in society.

We all know there is a caste system in Asian people in UK. But is there also a class system in Desi people? Ie You get them trashy type desi people with a strong regional accent. Such as Brummie or cockney. That act and speak in a Bengali type accent. In East London and up north. I have always thought of myself as middle class. They way I talk is like a typical Oxford graduate or close to it. I also tend to spend more time with other so called 'middle class asians' Do Asians fall into class categories and what class do you belong to?

Usually it's the other way around people moving to London from Birmingham. But I have noticed a trend recently in last 10 years of people moving up north. Northern people tend to be more relaxed and laid back and have a slower pace of life. Not sure if there is any difference between the two cities. Both are congested and overly populated. But Birmingham probably has more rural areas. The best areas in birmingham I have heard are Sutton Coldfield and Solihull which are whitish areas. Areas where Asians are the majority typically are worse. Due to Asians messing up these places wherever they go. Ie Soho road. It's one grim place. Having been to various cities up north such as Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds ect. I believe London is far better.

Do you watch English movies? Do you listen to English songs? Do you watch English TV programmes? Do they make sense to you?

I think this is due to the big improvement of regional cinema industries. I remember watching punjabi movies 10-15 years ago. They were very inferior to bollywood movies. In terms of story lines, special affects and general quality of production. This was understandable though as Punjabi cinema was just starting to come good and was not well fincanced .Many of the early punjabi films were just about some macho punjabi guy acting like a gangster with big mucha lol. I think those days are gone we are now seeing some good story lines and productions instead of those stereo typical films that were made in the 80's and 90's. Poeple can relate more to their own cultual language films more then the hindi type nonsence films. That glorify khans and muslims.Punjabi films can promote Sikhism and Punjabi language and do much good for punjab and punjabis by making good moral films to adsress alcohol and other issues affecting us. What we need is better actors, directors and producers to steer punjabi cinema to a bright future. Maybe it can become a global force? Tamil film industry is huge and they do good at promoting their language, culture and faith.

Is the Punjabi Film industry good and better then bollywood. There are good elements of the Punjabi films. it encourages people to learn and understand punjabi language rather then hindi in bollywood. Also there are no khans and ali's who dominate the the industry that are in the bollywood films. I have recently watched some punjabi films and they are actually not that bad. They have improved alot since the begining. When punjabi films were low budget and porrly made. But now they have improved alot.

What about teaching non Sikhs. Also people maybe put off by that name. Just as I would be put of by Christian missionary society. They should be called Sikh global educational or something like that.

Apologies for earlier spelling. Just been using an old phone and keyboard is not working properly.

www.sikhmissionarysociety.org Just came across this group. Are they doing good at parchaar and what they do. I picked up some leaflets and they are quite good with providing info on Sikhi. Not sure about their name though. As Sikhism is not a missionary faith. So sounds a bit stange they would call their group or organisation this.

Lol

I think your painting a overly rosy picture of the state of Sikhs in the UK. Lets just look at the facts and the real state of affairs. High percentage of our boys and girls marrying out of faith. Not to mention high percentage of girls and boys dating and getting up to promiscuous behavior. Massive alcohol issue in the Punjabi community. This leads to all kinds of issues such as domestic violence, broken unhappy marriages and divorces. Sikh youth engaging in sinful behavior, clubbing, drinking and generally getting up to know good. High percentage of our lot who are basically atheist and not into their faith. I think you have forgotten about all these issues we are facing. But yeah goreh like our aloo saag and matar paneer so everything must be great?

Good topic. Then asnwer in short is. Boredom. Most individuals between the ages of 8 to 24 find religion boring. Think about it anyone in these age groups. What would they rather do. go to the Gurdwara or go to nandos or some restaurant place with their with their friends? They want to do exciting and fun things. not sit in a gurdwara. Many also cannot appreciate history untill they get older ie in their 30's by the time theyve missed alot. Many also dont have faith to begin with so they wont be interested in Sikhism. Its down to people like jagraj singh who could inspire the youngsters with and get them interested in Sikhism.

The women asking for money seem so cringe worthy. Since when is this a tradition to ask for money. Bunch of bafoons.

The strange thing is all new converts to Sikhism seems to only be the 3ho types. Hopefully after joing them they become normal Sikhs once they realise they are not proper Sikhs.

Yep. Alcohol can turn the nicest person into a foul mouthed lunatic ready to fight and make a fool of himself.

I agree. Know need to call women names like that without even knowing them.