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is ther live broadcastr??

wjkk wjkf are there any programmes in the uk this month and next month because it seems there aren't (m)any.?

what timez it on england time

where are coaches from for this event?

is the live stream not working?

could have died????

dont you know how to write properly i could teach you if you like

some of your replies are just typical buts, buts and more..buts "but if u do follow raag uv gta follow it to the extreme!! like used timings for such raags....e.g. Raag Aasaa betwwen 3-6 hours in the morning.. and so on!!! also, it very hard to find kirtanyis hu teach raag kirtan in certain areas uk!! a few names are Prof. Surinder Singh, Bhai Harjinder Singh Lallie, and Bhai Sarwan Singh (my Taya Ji )!!" extreme?what extreme? well thats because there are so few willing to learn. The more people learn, the more these people can teach others. "Don't concentrate too much on the logistics, it doesn't mean if you learn to do keertan in raag you will have a better understanding of gurbani. The main point is to understand gurbani and guru sahib jee daa parmaan drirh karnaa. This life is VERY short, so understand the message of guru sahib, its always good to learn to do keertan in raag, as it is suppose to bring out the true essence of the shabad in that tone/specific raag, because thats how it was written, but if one is too concentrated on singing and the instruments they play they overshoot the message. Bhul chuk muaf." ok, fine your point may be valid, BUT then this point has to apply to a number of other things.Applies to gurusahib written in lareedar form, it doesnt mean that if you read lareedar saroop you will have a greater understanding of gurbani.or it doesnt mean if you eat from sarbloh, or keep bibek, or adorn the bana that we will have a greater understadning of gurbani? Life is short, but we make it so. Paaji ji, you could say, don't get a proper education, just work uptil colege and then get a job, doing really amazing seva for humankind, living on a moderate allowance, there is no need for university. this is wasting our time, watching tv..if life is so short, and if you truly believe this then why do we do all the manmat things we do.. your arguemnt doesnt follow. Gurusahib wrote in raag...i understand its not more important to be able to sing raag than being able to enshrine the shabad within ones heart, BUT i am comparing to other things we do, and say are completely vital. there are always exscuses when it comes to singing in raag. we want to do everything puratan yet we ignore raag for some strange reason...laziness? "Its a facet in Indian classical Music that ragas have certain time that they should be played. But in Sikhi terms, because you're dealing with spirituality, you cant limit emotion to timing. I ask you this: Do you have a certain time of the day when youre sad? A certain time when youre happy? No. Because what you feel cannot be tied down to a certain hour." Tanu kaur....oh right...i see guruji must have got it wrong then(!). He should have left the raags out(!). Essentially, you are asking guruji the question- "I ask you this: Do you have a certain time of the day when youre sad? A certain time when youre happy?" Please those who are going to make it a debate between akj's and others, this isnt a jatha bound problem. i'm saying its a general one. I could easily have said taksalis/nihangs whateevr. in fact alot of akj singhs go and learn raag at jawaddi kala as a mtter of fact. but i understand where you are coming from "yes its funny how "AKJ's dedicated to preserving and practicing Tat-Gurmat Maryada or the most pristine and original form of Sikhism. and claim to follow the True Khalsa rehits which are disappearing. BUT when it comes to raag alot of the youth anyway hate it apprently it makes u fall asleep" Its funny, in every jatha this happens.

Wjkk Wjkf I wanted to ask. it seems to me that everyone wants to try to live in the way the guru's hundreds of years ago...wear what they wore, eat from the utensils they ate from, eat and drink what they did... we want to preserve the lareedar saroop of guru granth sahib ji... we want to try and change as little as possible.... yet. somehow...raag gets left out of the equation. Yes its true that what is important is the pyaar in which one sings kirtan..but it all comes down to respect..and simply...if guru sahib wrote the gurugranthsahibji in raag, then why do we find it so difficult to abide by this? If Raag wasnt important then gurusahib wouldnt have bothered. the akj youth theese days, we want to live how gurusahib did in their times..wear bana, eat from sarabloh, keep lareedar saroop, but when it comes to raag, which is explcitly written in guru granthsahibji, they seem to ignore it. Additionally, even guru sahibs kirtaneea sata and balwand used to sing in raag. at all the akj and other programes, there are no youths who seem to have made the effort to sing raag, rather, they make an effort to sing other things just to impress sangat. we say its too hard, we have to learn this and that...but we make this effort for keeping sarabloh and bibek. I think raag should be sung at rhensbais as much as it can be.what does the sangat think? i know i myself really enjoy the kirtan thats done in rhensbais, maybe the tune and beat i dont know...but if the tune and the beat of kirtan shouldnt matter, then why dont we do raag kirtan? or atleast try? Wjkk Wjkf

wjkk wjkf r theyre going to be kirtan up frm the coventry kirtan darbar.i wasnt able to make it but i heard it was realy gd.

wjkk wjkf sangat i remember ther being(very recently) a derby smagam folowd by a weding or sumet, r there any pics and/or recordings frm the smagam or anythin, also from t recent italy smagam. thanks wjkk wjkf