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  1. vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh please make the call and get groups to push it on facebook.we have less than 24hours, Amnesty international have done a bad job pushing this, we just got the call today. lets try to hit 100k thanks URGENT CALL TO ACTION CALL +91808 825 5533 Benti from Bibi Navneet Kaur Bhullar (wife of Professor Davinderpal Singh Bhullar who faces the imminent death penalty in India) EVERYONE Please call +91808 825 5533. This number will register your signature for the AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL Abolish the death penalty in India campaign. This is an EASY action for us to do and will help to strengthen Professor Bhullars case in India. So far 50,000 calls have been made. Sources have told us that lines will close in 24 hours time. BENTI Let us DOUBLE the current number. 50,000 Sikhs and Non-Sikhs across the glove need to unite to make the call within the next 24 hours. Call instructions: 1) Dial +918088255533 2) Press 3 for English 3) Listen to the message 4) Your call has been registered and you may hang up +91808 825 5533. PLEASE CALL NOW AND FORWARD TO ALL CONTACTS. Thank you http://act.amnesty.org.in/death_penalty
  2. If as I see here: A quote from Kute Di Pooch Singh Gill: "The combined impact of these initiatives was that, by January 1989, the terrorists had been pushed into a thin strip along the Pakistan border, with over 70 per cent of their strikes restricted to just three of the twelve districts in Punjab – Gurdaspur, Amritsar and Ferozepur." Then it is not too far to assume that 70%+ of all deaths were also in those three districts. With a current day population touching about 7 million it is not too far to assume about half that 20-30 years ago. 3-400k dead; Being from the Doab, my mom for example can tell me about stuff that happened, she doesn't talk about it a lot, but it seems that no-one directly from my nuclear family was killed. I am wondering how different it is for those three districts, as in if I assume that over 1/3rd of the male youth for example (below 30-35? above 12??) were killed is thaat about accurate. The reason is, I'm trying to see how much of India's strategy is literally butchering everyone and if there's any order to it. They talk about 4 point plans, and in the end they did kill many of the mukhis of the jathe but how much of that is luck. Seeing this man's interview (former BSF officer) it points to just a butchering, but then why is it only Punjab's insurgency that was 'quelled'. Is it due to us cutting down the jungles, so therefore not having cover of those like in the NE (possibility). Or what? I understand I can be 90% sure, but would rather have more voices to hear and yea.. Pretty much that's it.
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    Death and afterlife

    - does the soul leave the body instantly along with the last swaas - I have heard the soul/person is still watching until the cremation,is this correct? Does anyone have any information about what happens...
  4. This is going to sound bitter and most likely damning and I really do not want your sympathy and nor am I a pessimist. But, the disunity of Sikhs will probably be the end of Sikhi. I have a friend who is poor and not a resident of the country which we live in. So what do people of the local Sikh community do? They decide that just because the family does not have residence: 1.) They should be kicked out of work. 2.) Kicked out of the Gurudwara. 3.) Rumours and slander should be spread about them. 4.) Make their lives as hard as possible. I have even seen amritdharis doing this!!!!!!!!!! Whilst in other communities, from my experience, its the other way around. On one hand for whatever damn reason, the Guru is not listening to this family's prayers. In India they don't even have a house or any family they go back they die. And it looks like they will go back and on the other hand the mother******* <banned word filter activated> community is dead-set against them. When these individuals leave the panth, we hanker on about "you have to be strong to be a Sikh" or try bringing them back but do we ever blame the right people? So one way or another crying over Khalistan, Rajoana and panthic matters will not help us. It will probably destroy us. When Sikhs are betraying Sikhs why do we prefer different treatments from others? Now it seems that just because the Guru for whatever reason does not listen to ardassa, local Sikhs think they have the right to kick people out of gurughars. If this family go to the gurudwara people give them the "look." Personally speaking after seeing such disgusting behaviour I have left the Gurudwara. Whats the point of going when no one focuses on the Guru but poverty stricken unfortunates. Afterwards committees get in fights "oh u made them leave," "u did" old idiots have their beards ripped out, women abuse and swords are drawn, ears are hacked off. Sheer drama from the very people who think they are kings of the world.The family itself has left the gurughar and their faith in the Guru is just about gone, 90% is gone and only 10% remains and even that is decreasing day by day. This sheer stupidness of our community is going to make us become only a memory in textbooks.
  5. Two lines from different shabads below: ieh ibiKAw idn cwir iCA Cwif cilE sBu koie ] eih bikhiaa dhin chaar shhia shhaadd chaliou sabh koe || This poison shall last for only a few days; everyone must depart, and leave it behind. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ hir nwmu iDAwey qw suKu pwey pyeIAVY idn cwry ] har naam dhhiaaeae thaa sukh paaeae paeeearraidhin chaarae || Meditate on the Lord's Name, and you shall find peace; your stay in this world shall last only four days. And then this scary shabad: mÚ 1 ] ma 1 || First Mehla: pehilai piaar lagaa thhan dhudhh || First, the baby loves mother's milk; dhoojai maae baap kee sudhh || second, he learns of his mother and father; theejai bhayaa bhaabhee baeb || third, his brothers, sisters-in-law and sisters; chouthhai piaar oupa(n)nee khaedd || fourth, the love of play awakens. pa(n)javai khaan peean kee dhhaath || Fifth, he runs after food and drink; shhivai kaam n pushhai jaath || sixth, in his sexual desire, he does not respect social customs. sathavai sa(n)j keeaa ghar vaas || Seventh, he gathers wealth and dwells in his house; at(h)avai krodhh hoaa than naas || e ighth, he becomes angry, and his body is consumed. naavai dhhoulae oubhae saah || Ninth, he turns grey, and his breathing becomes labored; dhasavai dhadhhaa hoaa suaah || tenth, he is cremated, and turns to ashes. geae sigeeth pukaaree dhhaah || His companions send him off, crying out and lamenting. ouddiaa ha(n)s dhasaaeae raah || The swan of the soul takes flight, and asks which way to go. aaeiaa gaeiaa mueiaa naao || He came and he went, and now, even his name has died. pishhai pathal sadhihu kaav || After he left, food was offered on leaves, and the birds were called to come and eat. naanak manamukh a(n)dhh piaar || O Nanak, the self-willed manmukhs love the darkness. baajh guroo ddubaa sa(n)saar ||2|| Without the Guru, the world is drowning. ||2||
  6. SSA sadh sangat ji, I am deeply interested in knowing the concept of heaven that Guruji has shown us. I am more interested in reading the scriptures than knowing the interpretation. Can anyone help me please?
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