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No meditation or mindfulness is anything compared to Waheguru Simran and Bani. Guru Sahib gives proper Anand whereas these mediation techniques may just clear your mind for a while and that's it. ਆਨੰਦੁਆਨੰਦੁਸਭੁਕੋਕਹੈਆਨੰਦੁਗੁਰੂਤੇਜਾਣਿਆ॥ Bliss, bliss - everyone talks of bliss; bliss is known only through the Guru. ਜਾਣਿਆਆਨੰਦੁਸਦਾਗੁਰਤੇਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਕਰੇਪਿਆਰਿਆ॥ Eternal bliss in known only through the Guru, when the Beloved Lord grants His Grace. ਕਰਿਕਿਰਪਾਕਿਲਵਿਖਕਟੇਗਿਆਨਅੰਜਨੁਸਾਰਿਆ॥ Granting His Grace, He cuts away our sins; He blesses us with the healing ointment of spiritual wisdom. ਅੰਦਰਹੁਜਿਨਕਾਮੋਹੁਤੁਟਾਤਿਨਕਾਸਬਦੁਸਚੈਸਵਾਰਿਆ॥ Those who eradicate attachment from within themselves, are adorned with the Shabad, the Word of the True Lord. ਕਹੈਨਾਨਕੁਏਹੁਅਨੰਦੁਹੈਆਨੰਦੁਗੁਰਤੇਜਾਣਿਆ॥੭॥ Says Nanak, this alone is bliss - bliss which is known through the Guru. ||7|| Only through Guru Sahib can we get actual Anand.1 point
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Brother or sister, Guest guest Jee. If science exists, is it not more than probable, that even those scientifics laws which you mention, are part of His Hukum? Or is it, that any other entities made those scientifc laws? I do not see any diffrences. It is only we are limited and short sighted, thus we limit and say scientific laws, but, in the end, all those countless universes, levels of consciousness, whether seen or unseen, work under the natural laws for their natural flow. For example, the traffic signals/rules/regulations or call it laws, if the traffic respects them, evrything runs smoothly, if not, it may cause horrilbe accidents and painful consequences. The force of gravity is not the same here on the earth as per on the moon or jupiter. For example, the nature of the fire is to give warmth and light, so if that is His Hukum for fire, fire can never give you coolness or darkness. We can not and should not mix things as same for all different aspects, each thing at it,s own place. It is per Hukum also, the body, mind and our life circumstances which we get, are also per Hukum, in the form of karmas, which clearlly says: aapay beejay aapay khae. So you see everything works under His Hukum. Ad if He is Perfect, what the need to rectify for Him? He makes no mistakes. You see, He is so Perfect, that He can not go against His own established laws or Hukum. If that was the case, why did He come as human beings, respecting the laws of His Nature, by having parents, and born from a womb of a mother, when He came as Guru Sahiban? Why did Guru Arjun Dev Maharaj had to suffer horrible attrocities at the hands of the most heartless and bloody foolish people? Why did He not use His powers to avoid them and punish them? Why did Ninth Patshahee, passed away as He did, was He not Akal Purukh Himself, why did he not save Himself? Why save some as you mention above, and not His human incarnations as Guru Sahiban? Why that discrimination? The answer is, are you sure it was Akal Purukh who reverted the riverflow, or protected Prahlad and not any other incarnation of the hindu trinity? Or when you say, he saved Bhagat Kabir from the elephants? Are you sure, it was Kabir Jee and not the Buddha who was saved from the mad elephant? It could very well be Vishnu Jee, who that did for his devotees and not Wahiguru Himself. Bahamvadee has deeply polluted our sense of perceiving sikhee, so we take such things as powers displyed by Wahiguru, when that is not the case. You may find similarities among all the several incarnations of Vishnu Jee, but the path, the teachings, sikhshaa, given to us sikhs by Guru Sahiban, has no comparison in any way to other faiths and divinities. Sikhee is the simplest path in treading, yet the highest in goals. For we have no trinities nor any incarnations as our goals, nor their realms, but, He Wahiguru Akal Purukh Himself, that also by His apaar grace. Other deties display miraculous powers , weapons, fly in chariots, change their outer appearances, etc ... lay down on a thousand faced snake in a ocean of milk, have a wife massaging his feet and so on, with four arms, their sons, and their spouses, in a summary, a big whole number of these spiritual entities working in their respective realms. And all this goes against what First Patshahee said about that Supreme Being: Ik Oankar: Only One Lord, who is Nirankar, formless. No wives, no children, no daughters in law, nothing of that sort. There where He is, only He exist, and whosoever reaches there by His grace, becomes one with Him without any distinction. Then also, whenever Wahiguru comes here as human beings, comes as simple human beings, though internally, they are He Himself. I almost forgot, Guru Jee came as Guru Sahiban, as normal ordinary human beings, but unlike them, their drishtee is full of mercy and love , which irradiates from them, that is why they are so beautiful and attractive, for they have the Light of Wahiguru in them. They never did anything to benefit themselves or impress anyone, their humility, their namrata was such, that First Patshahee called Himself, as lalaa golaa or das also.... Then when you say: He destroys sins ..... It is just but normal and natural as when you rub a rusted piece of iron against a stone, that its rust is removed. In a similar way, when we rub our mind against the soap of Nam, all our sins are washed away. So yes in that way, our sins are cleansed, but not that we stand still and pray, and He washes our sins just like that.... No that is not like that... His works are beyond our intellect and understanding.We can somehow understand a bit and benefit ourselves, by paying attention to our beloved Guru Sahiban and by engaing in veechar on their Sat Bachan in the Gurbani, and then by following it implicitly. Guest guest jee, I respect your views, for that is also by His Hukum that you have that understanding, like anybody else also. But that much I will also say, there is no comparison of any other dharams to sikhee, which is by far the highest, that also, I proclaim not as sikh, but as an ordinary human being, for sikhee is a universal path for all of His lovers, irrespective of caste, class, colors, creed or genders... Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal1 point
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If I don’t jap Naam but just sit still after paath does it still count as meditation? To this question of the OP, let us see what Sree Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj reply does HE give below: ਨਾਮੁ ਦੁਰਾਇ ਚਲੈ ਸੋ ਚੋਰੁ ॥੩॥ Naam Dhuraae Chalai So Chor ||3|| Those who do not let the Naam become manifest within themselves, depart like thieves in the end. ||3|| ਪਤਿ ਖੋਈ ਬਿਖੁ ਅੰਚਲਿ ਪਾਇ ॥ Path Khoee Bikh Anchal Paae || The mortal loses his honor, gathering sin and corruption. ਸਾਚ ਨਾਮਿ ਰਤੋ ਪਤਿ ਸਿਉ ਘਰਿ ਜਾਇ ॥ Saach Naam Ratho Path Sio Ghar Jaae || But imbued with the Lord's Name, you shall go to your true home with honor. In these 3 verses above Guru Jee is telling us, that if we do not do Nam japna, we can never ever make it manifest within us, and if we do not make any attempt to make it manifest, we have done nothing, moreover when we leave this plane, we shall be treated like a thief by the yamdoots, for we did not gahtehr the real wealth, yet we filled ourselves with useless karmas; so we shall definetely not go to Him. For going back to Him and becoming one with Him, we have imbue with His name, we have to dye ourselves with His Name. Guru Sahibans instructions for returing back to Him, are / should be Hukum for us, without looking here or there with our manmat attitude. Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal.1 point
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