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WJKK WJKF Dear Veerji, I think it is great that the SP educational wing has started, to educate our youth. How can anyone get involved to do any seva? I teach martial arts and would be willing to help. I loook forward to hearing from you Roop WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF, Is there anyone on this forum whi can tell me if there are still Gatka classes held in Baba sang Gurdwara in Smethwick. I have beeb to the Gurdwara on Friday 6.30pm to 8pm and have not seen anything. I have even tried to contact the Gurdwara commitee members, who say that there are no classes here, but that there are lessons at Oldbury gurdwara. I was wondering if someone could clear this up for me. All I know is that a Maan Singh teaches at Baba Sang Gurdwara, does anyone go there to learn, if so what is the lessons like? I believe they do santhiya at the end of the class - not sure. Thanks in advance. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF, Is there anyone on this forum whi can tell me if there are still Gatka classes held in Baba sang Gurdwara in Smethwick. I have beeb to the Gurdwara on Friday 6.30pm to 8pm and have not seen anything. I have even tried to contact the Gurdwara commitee members, who say that there are no classes here, but that there are lessons at Oldbury gurdwara. I was wondering if someone could clear this up for me. All I know is that a Maan Singh teaches at Baba Sang Gurdwara, does anyone go there to learn, if so what is the lessons like? I believe they do santhiya at the end of the class - not sure. Thanks in advance. WJKK WJKF

WJKK WJKF, Dear Veerji, theShastarMan.com is reliable and I have ordered from him, I have never had a problem with the level of service. I must tell you that it has been a while since I last placed an order about August 2008. Anyway, I am too after a Kara with claws, I think they are called Jamdhar Kara, I know that nihangsingh.com can make them, but there may be an issue in getting them over to the Uk. let me know if you know of anyone in the UK who has them. Best regards, Roop WJKK WJKF

VJKK VJKF Dear Veerji, This problem with muslims is never going to go away. Sikhs should stick together, but we have nothing in common that will keep us together. You mention Islam and muslims will get together in numbers. Yes, sikhs need to fight back, but we have been wrapped up in cotton wool for too long - told not to fight - get a good education etc. Muslims are into weight training - boxing - gang culture and violence. We don't fight back because we have no back-up and we don't want police trouble. I have been thinking hard about this aswell, we need martial arts classes where we can build some unity and attch with this basic knowledge of sikh history. Email me raj281@hotmail.co.uk, i have a few ideas that i can share with you. VJKK VJKF Roop

Hi all, I have emailed Shastar Man, he has explained in bits about his problem. He is reluctant to tell everything, but from what he has saio on his email, it has the potential of exploding out of control. He doesn't want police involvement as his family thinks that there could be reprisals. The muslims are acting hard because they are in large numbers, out Veerji is alone with his family. I will try and help in anyway that i can. I personally think that violence is not the answer, but sometimes these muslims only can understand pain. Anyway who mentioned Gully from southall, who is he? Is he good at dealing with these issues? Let me kow.

VJKK VJKF Dear veerji, It would be good if you could clarify abit more, what is the problem? Are they harassing girls? causing trouble etc I can appreciate that you don't want to give too much away. But from my experience it usually is either:- 1. harassing guys at school/college/universities 2. harassing oursikh sisters 3. picking on innocent families i.e. old men and women Is it one of these? VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Dear all, I was wondering if anyone has brought shastars from nihangsingh.com, I have ssen some pictures and the shastar look nice. I just wanted to know if they are of good quality? Thanks. Roop VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Dear Gobinder, I am interested in yout tulwar for £55. I do not have an ebay account. Please could you PM for details on how I can buy it. The tulwar pictures on ebay look amazing. I look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, Roop VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Dear Veerji's, You seem to be very upset about my comments. If i have said anything to offend, then I am sorry. I came on the forum to get some books on Gatka - for my own personal knowledge. I have found a Veerji, who will be posting me a copy of a Gatka book. I wish you both all the best with your Shastar Vidiya studies. VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Dear Veerji, I went to the akhara once, I didn't go back because of MR SV and the his following remarks: 1. I am sanatan - hindu sikh not a sikh! 2. I eat meat and drink alcohol - you need it to be a warrior! 3. Told all students to remove kara's before entering his class 4. Swore at local gatka teachers - calling them parts of the female anatomy 5. Sikhs are part of hinduism 6. he swears in his class - non stop So now you tell me Veerji, the great Akali Baba Mohinder singh Ji - found only this TWAT to teach SV to? Nobody else in the whole world, no one but this twat? Why couldn't he have taught some gursikhs, who are not anti-panthic, or sponsored by the indian government?WHY? That is the reason i didn't go back. And never will - i state again, the puratan sikhs could use vidiya on the battlefield because they had the power of NAAM! What has Mr SV got? -- -BAD BREATH! VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Dear Veerji, No offence taken. I will state again that I have no problem with people learning Shastar Vidiya at all! However I do not agree with the Hindu slant that is taken in the class. No offence to Hindus at all. but Mr SV does drop sly comments about Hinduism to confuse people in his lessons. How do I know this? Because I have been to his akhara in Birminghm and experienced first hand. I do not wish to put money into his pocket so that he can go on confusing little children (who only want to learn self defense) about sikhism and ruining lives in the process. He is very clever ans sly! Also what he teaches wil not work when put under an extreme adrenalised pressure test - you will simply get a log jam of techniques i.e. not knowing what to do. Sorry, but these are my feelings. Sorry if I have offended anyone - but I won't support anti-panthic people! VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Hi, Please could you let me know which books you have. I have seen one which is called Gatka-Dance of the sword, have you got that one? If you are having problems with PM, then you can email me on raj281@hotmail.co.uk. Thanks. By the way I am based in Birmingham, if you are close, I could come and pick them up. Thanks VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF Thanks everyone for your help. I just wanted a book on gatka for the following reasons:- 1. to see if there are different types of pentras 2. to see if there is any mention of hand to hand fighting i.e. unarmed combat Thats all. I don't want to buy any books on shastar Vidiya - since my views are not in-line with the people who teach this art. I have no problem with the art. Please, i don't want to start a war of words. I have heard of a book by Nanak Dev Khalsa - Dance of the sword, does anyone have this? I will buy it if anyone has a copy. VJKK VJKF

VJKK VJKF I am trying to get hold of a book by Baba Gyana Singh on basic vaars and blocks used in gatka it also mentions some classical penthras. Does anyone know where I can get this book from? Or does anyone have it? can anyone recommend any good books on gatka? thanks in advance VJKK VJKF