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http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=5620

As far as I know: The Jwadee Taksal is a school of keertan, and thats specifically Raag keertan; this is since it promotes Keertan in Raag as prescribed by SatGuru Granth Sahib Jee. There was a live broadcast of the Barsee of Sant Sucha Singh Jee (former head of the Taksal) a while back on one of the threads here.. Also, there was a large smagam back in 1991 called Adutti Gurmat Sangeet Sammelan which had many different Raagees including Bhai Balbeer Singh, Bhai Avtar Singh, Sant Niranjan Singh (who's now known as Bhai Niranjan Singh) and many more, all did one or two shabads in the title Raag. I recommend everyone to listen to the shabads available for download via http://www.keertan.org/multimedia.php ESPECIALLY the katha by Sant Sucha Singh jee. Anyway thats as far as I know, hopefully the sangat can add more like who the head of the taksal is now? etc

Lakh Lakh Vadaaeyaa tu the Saadh Sangat on Shromanee Sri Bhagat RaviDaas Sahib Jee's Parkaash Utsav!

I recommend reading "Struggle for Justice" by Ranbir singh. A quick search got me this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/096728741...glance&n=283155 (didnt look hard enough for one on amazon.co.uk) Theres an excellent starting section which goes through what happened in the years leading up to the Indian regime's invasion of sri darbar sahib. The rest are translations of Sant jee's speeches. You can also download these speeches from various websites eg www.gursikhijeevan.com.

These have already been mentioned, and it turns out most of these were indeed married, although the wife's name might not have been written in the pages of our hitory, doens't mean they didn't exist http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=16643&hl= Most claims posted pro celibacy have been responded to in the above thread: Just like to mention that theres loads of quotes telling Gurmukhs to live Gristi Jeevan, I have yet to encounter one SINGLE quote, acknowleding Celibacy beign accepted. Namastang, although I agree it's wrong to make black and white out of controversial issues such as abortion, and other moral and ethical issues as Guru Sahib had a reason not mentiong these (considering he mentioned Kuri-mars, he could easily have mentioned banning abortion methods (not ultra sound technics, but technics used at the time), which they did not do) as he left some grey area for these, however Guru Sahib has showed, through their own jeevan as well as through Gurbani, Through Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaara etc, that a Gurmukh is designed for Grist Jeevan, there is absolutely nothing in Guru Sahibaans jeevan, or Gurbani, or Vaara etc, that acknowledge celibacy in a Gursikh's Life. A Gurmukh is designed for Grist Jeevan, and that Guru Sahib showed through his own jeevan, and Gurbani, by PRactising what he preached. If someone decides to practise celibacy, the does not mean it's a pro-gurmat principle. Nor does it make it a pro-gurmat concept. The Concept is that a Sikh Should live a life of a householder, if he decides not to, it's entirely up to him, but that person cannot claim that he's following the teachings of Gurus to the point. This is a clear instruction by Bhai Sahib Bhai Gurdas Ji, that a Sikh does and should indeed get married. http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=5680 Guru Sahib didn't just say that marriage didn't hinder spirituality but also made the Sikh a "gharbaree", or householder.. crx srx ilvlIx hoie sYNswrI inrMkwrI Bwey] charan saran livaleen hoe sai(n)asaaree nira(n)kaaree bhaaeae|| Even a worldly person here, concentrating upon the feet of Guru, becomes dear to God, the formless One. GrbwrI hoie inj Gr jwey ]ù] gharabaaree hoe nij ghar jaaeae ||a|| Becoming householder, man resides in his innate nature (atman). http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?Sour...=&ShabadID=5905 Those who have already made up their opinion, will not care less what Bhai Sahib Bhai Gurdas Ji Says, and will begin jsutfying other people's actions. Bhai Gurdas Ji's words are clear. Gurbani is clear. If one still has issues, it'äs because they have made up their mind and won't change it no matter what. This has been discussed many time on this forum already. Bhull chukk maaf 152448[/snapback] Again, the same as the other thread, Bhai Gurdaas Jee was celibate, can someone "prove" that he wasnt?

not that i know of!! and probably not online... sorry

http://www.sridasam.org/dasam?Action=Page&p=264

Bhai Gurdaas Jee was also celibate in addition to Baba Budha jee and numerous other GurSikh mahapurkh

BrahmGiani Sadh Jeevai Nahee Marta ||

off the top of me head- GurbaniLipi and the character ">"

Does anyone know if theres anywhere online where I can download Giani Ji's recitation of Nitnem / Sri Sukhmani Sahib or any other Gurbani recited by him?? Amrit Bani Radio frequently play Giani Ji's recitation of Sri Sukhmani Sahib and Sri Rehras Sahib but as of yet I've not seen any non Katha/Viakhiyaa files of Giani jee online. Hope someone can help. Thanks

lol figured it out- maharaj's kirpa >>> it doesnt work in FIREFOX!! works fine in IE though!!

QUICK, HOPING to listen to Sant Ranjeet Singh jee diwan but the live radio button isnt working!! Looking at the Error details is says its unable to open file!! Ive got WMP v10 so should really be working. Is anyone else facing the same problems???

Please could you specifiy the extra two bania that Nihangs read to make up the 7? Also as a note, as Baba Balvinder singh koralee vale once mentioned, Baba Nand Singh Jee took/practiced the paath marayada from Thakath Sri Hazur sahib (together with the "maximum" Satkar aspect of SatGuru Granth Sahib jee from Sri Harmander Sahib) which Nanaksar Dera/Jatha practice.

Dhan mahapurkh Sant Sheesha Singh Jee.... kbIr sMq mUey ikAw roeIAY jo Apuny igRih jwie ] kabeer sa(n)th mooeae kiaa roeeai jo apunae grihi jaae || Kabeer, why cry at the death of a Saint? He is just going back to his home. rovhu swkq bwpury ju hwtY hwt ibkwie ]16] rovahu saakath baapurae j haattai haatt bikaae ||16|| Cry for the wretched, faithless cynic, who is sold from store to store. ||16|| http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=4984

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!! The definition of "Sant" can be found on Ang 319 in Guaree kee Vaar Mahala 4 (SatGuru Raam Daas Ji) of SatGuru Granth Sahib Jee: slok mÚ 5 ] salok ma 5 || Shalok, Fifth Mehl: ijnw swis igrwis n ivsrY hir nwmW min mMqu ] jinaa saas giraas n visarai har naamaa(n) man ma(n)th || Those who do not forget the Lord, with each breath and morsel of food, whose minds are filled with the Mantra of the Lord's Name DMnu is syeI nwnkw pUrnu soeI sMqu ]1] dhha(n)n s saeee naanakaa pooran soee sa(n)th ||1|| - they alone are blessed; O Nanak, they are the perfect Saints. ||1|| vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw! vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!