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Why dont we have someone to video tape the event undercover? And send it off to the Law.

Didnt Guru Ji say onces, build the inside before building the outside. Or something similar to that. Ive seen some sikhs who have build the full outside roop but nothing Pure Inside. I would encourage anyone one to do Naam Simran.

Wow thats a nice story. B)

Im Non-Amritdhari and i luv doing Naam Simran, our Gurus' encouraged us all to do Naam jap. I really hate this: People always think that if your a munna sikh (Im not munna) your not meant to do paat or wake up amrit vella and that munnay can get away with not doing it, these are the same people that think that Amritdharis are the ones that are meant to do paat and not Non-Amritdharis' If you got your hair cut or your a Non-Amritdhari it doesnt matter. Naam japing is for all, even for people of different religions. If your saying you dont do Naam Japing because your a munna... or saying that a Non-Amritdhari has no duty doing so... ... then thats just an excuse for not doing in the first place. Its up to the indivdual if he/she wants to do it or not. But I also feel that if you give up Naam Japing your giving up >50% of what Sikhi is about.

Guru Ji said that Hell and Heaven can be expereniced here on Earth, Muslims believe in 7 heavens, but when Guru showed a Muslim once all all the infinite Heavens. Both Muslims and christans believe in that if you do good you can come back into human life form.

Look Sikhs aint the only people that can make it to sachkhand. Your Soul isnt Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Jew, then wots inside? Answer, Waheguru Akaal. Muslims think that there special to Waheguru, Christians believe that the only way to get the Heaven (sachkhand in ours terms) is throught Jesus. Jews think that they are the only people of God. And now look, look how selflish have us Sikhs become by thinking that where the only religion to go to sachkhand. Akaal has no name but at the sametime has an innumberable amount of Names. Guru Granth Sahib is our Guru, and Guru Ji says there is no Hindu and no Muslman. "Dasam Duaar is a shortcut to Sach Khand", no it isnt, getting Dasam Duaar is very hard!! And its no short cut. Guru Ji said Hell and Heaven are here on Earth. Getting the Dasam Duaar takes loads of time and Naam Simran and the shadding of the Kaam (lust), Krodh (anger), Lobh (greed), Moh (attachment), Ahankar (false pride). I bet no one here is perfect including me, i know i have these evils still rooling around in my mind, but im still trying to get rid of these, and its not easy task!! Bottom line anyone can make it to sachkhand but it all depends on the grace of Waheguru and how much you luv Waheguru, no religion can tell you how to luv Waheguru, thats done by yourself. The House of God is inside of us.

Listen Sikhi has not failed, we failed to follow sikhi properly. Raj is coming, Khalsa will be the world, all races will become Khalsa, people dont realise it yet. Christans talk about Jesus coming back, i believe this is Khalsa Raj. Sikhi hasnt failed. Sikh allows multiculture but the good has to be taken from each culture the bad has to be filtered out. We can be Punjabi both easternised or even westernised. Even non-punjabis are are attractted to Sikhi.

Naam is also a form of Amrit.

Didnt Guru Ji said anyone of any religion can go to Sachkhand? What about people like Bhagat Kabir Ji, Bhagat Sheikh Farid Ji, Bhagat Namdev Ji and Bhagat Ravidas Ji? I believe if someones a Gursikh then your following Waheguru/Allah/Paarbrahm/God Will, your Guru can be Jesus, Shiva, Mohammad or even Guru Granth Sahib Ji. What ever your Guru your still following a path to Waheguru/Allah/Paarbrahm/God all are one of the same. The thing you should remember is why your Guru came to this world in the first place, Guru told us to worship Waheguru/Allah/Paarbrahm/God and not the one who gave us the message, respect your Guru, because he/she is at one with God, but know that Waheguru/Allah/Paarbrahm/God is the only one worshippable, this is what Guru ji also said. This Shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Raamkalee on Pannaa 896 raamakalee mehalaa 5 || Raamkalee, Fifth Mehl: kaaran karan kareem || He is the Doer, the Cause of causes, the bountiful Lord. sarab prathipaal reheem || The merciful Lord cherishes all. aleh alakh apaar || The Lord is unseen and infinite. khudh khudhaae vadd baesumaar ||1|| God is great and endless. ||1|| ou(n) namo bhagava(n)th gusaaee || I humbly pray to invoke the Universal Lord God, the Lord of the World. khaalak rav rehiaa sarab t(h)aaee ||1|| rehaao || The Creator Lord is all-pervading, everywhere. ||1||Pause|| jaga(n)naathh jagajeevan maadhho || He is the Lord of the Universe, the Life of the World. bho bha(n)jan ridh maahi araadhho || Within your heart, worship and adore the Destroyer of fear. rikheekaes gopaal guovi(n)dh || The Master Rishi of the senses, Lord of the World, Lord of the Universe. pooran sarabathr muka(n)dh ||2|| He is perfect, ever-present everywhere, the Liberator. ||2|| miharavaan moulaa thoohee eaek || You are the One and only merciful Master, peer paikaa(n)bar saekh || spiritual teacher, prophet, religious teacher. dhilaa kaa maalak karae haak || Master of hearts, Dispenser of justice, kuraan kathaeb thae paak 124;|3|| more sacred than the Koran and the Bible. ||3|| naaraaein narehar dhaeiaal || The Lord is powerful and merciful. ramath raam ghatt ghatt aadhhaar || The all-pervading Lord is the support of each and every heart. baasudhaev basath sabh t(h)aae || The luminous Lord dwells everywhere. leelaa kishh lakhee n jaae ||4|| His play cannot be known. ||4|| mihar dhaeiaa kar karanaihaar || Be kind and compassionate to me, O Creator Lord. bhagath ba(n)dhagee dhaehi sirajanehaar || Bless me with devotion and meditation, O Lord Creator. kahu naanak gur khoeae bharam || Says Nanak, the Guru has rid me of doubt. eaeko alahu paarabreham ||5||34||45|| The Muslim God Allah and the Hindu God Paarbrahm are one and the same. ||5||34||45||

I was also thinking that as well, i know Guru Ji was no normal person too. But the thing is you can't also just what you see. If those feet were the feet of Guru Ji then, i would want to see them too.

Waheguru doeant look into Caste, we're all just as dear as each other to Waheguru.

I hate to be a lil desrespectful but do we know if this is real? No knows if Guru Ji had Flat feet?

Waheguru didnt give different messages, us Humans have change the meaning of the Word of God so that they would fit with some peoples life styles.

I've even heard about some Singhs cancer being cured because of their envolments in the Saat Sangat.

Yeah tru. And he would be the first Sikh PM, but i what would hindus think?

No will ever listen to what sikhi is, im sick of telling ppl who i am, even if i tell them theres still confussion going on, if we wear patkay or Pugs we will still look like Muslims to the ignorant eyes. Its Stupid im sic of it. I feel only now Khalsa Raj will show what sikhi is, us Sikhs have become sooo uncreadable. Dispite all this, i still feel sikhi is soooo lovely, i really find it hard to understand y other ppl wouldnt find it luvly. We have a Dharam that is soo wide that it still allows us to think freely and not feel forced to think of something that might be against your feelings e.g. Evoluation vs. Adam and Eve. No other Dharam talks about life on other Planets apart from Sikhism (Water was found on Mars). For now were invisable to the naked eye to some ppl, i really dont know when its ganna change. Waheguruuu.

So tru. i dont believe in different Sects either.

If you look at other religions, some other religions were developed over say 40 years max? But Sikhi seems to of been made throught over 200 Years to develop. I kinda proud of that. But ofcourse Sikhi is from directly from Waheguru.

I really have a feeling that nearly all Muslims like Sikhism. But they find it hard to convert there own thoughts because of up bringing.

Who can we give this information to?

Ignorance are people that dont wanna know. This is more about Propaganda war. Islamics want the whole world to be Islam, theres no douth about that. But there are good Muslims out there, some are peaceful ppl and want Islamic land without force or stupid tatics, but some more miliant Muslims would try to take land by force and try to be conning.

I like the way in the second recording she says, "Its not the Guru Nanak book of whatever, its Guru Granth Sahib Ji!!!"

This friend of mine tryed to convert me. But i respect him, i told him that i know my Dharama and i knew he was trying to follow his, so i thanked him but said no, sorry. Ive even heard once from my mate as an in-direct question to me. Friend "Ive heard from some one that if a Sikh kills a muslim he is allowed to shave his beard" Me "No!!!!, Sikhism doesnt believe is shaving at all".

Allah is Waheguru theres no difference. I know what you mean about the interview, im glad that the Singh phoned up and stood up for Sikhi :wub: . You know in a way, i think this was some kind of conversion tatic, but im not sure so dont quote me on it, i dont hate Muslims either. And she didnt even back up anything for the sake of her clames against Sikhi and plus she was stuttering.

This is not Gurmat, I thought Sikhi wasnt about Idol Worshipping in the first place, I thought sikhi was about worshpping the Infinite Waheguru, which Guru Nanak Dev Ji has said himself.