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We should all be complaining about this person as you rightly say, I am still waiting for Kam Singh to get in touch and a recording of the show if anyone can help me out and post it here it will be a help. I have been in contact with this person and her arrogance is beyond belief, she has some kind connection to some hindu extremist network but i am not sure who, she refuses to accept sikh as a separate identity and says the Gurus were hindus, she needs to be bought to task people, otherwise no point whinning about sikhs in india and corrupt politicians in india, when we have a anti sikh councillor her amongst us in the uk, so if you watched the show and if we can get a recording posted here soon, please email the conservative party and leaders at Ealing borough council !! Also please note this is not a anti hindu protest, but to identify those who are anti sikh or anyone else.

Not with the mindset and lack of determination and backbone within some of our youth in india

yes veer

Did anyone watch the sikh channels youth show on this Sunday night 27/10/2013 and if anyone can find a recording of it and post it here it will be appreciated. The Topic was the sikh genocide petition application being presented in Geneva and the events / killings of sikh during that time a peaceful debate and no anti hindu views being expressed by Kam Singh or his guests then a Anita Kapoor an Ealing Councillor with the Conservative party and obviously a hindu come on the telephone has a rant about "what about all the hindus killed by sikhs at that time"? says Kam Singh and his Guests are doing wrong and puts the phone down. Now this person being a Councillor should know better and also in fact she tried to make the topic into a sikh vs hindu show ! Clearly She was trying to incite racial tensions and is possibly an agent for the congress party and our community needs to be aware of this person and her extremist views !! (see link). http://ealing.cmis.uk.com/ealing/Councillors/tabid/63/ctl/ViewCMIS_Person/mid/383/id/66/Default.aspx Also if Sikhs are voting for this person and live in her constituency the should think again. I would like to report her but i am not sure of the process but i have tried to Contact Kam Singh, we need to bring these people to task here in the uk and the west, so if anyone can help please pm me.

I agree with your points but that does not mean that kids should not want their own homeland as for no clear direction or leader firstly we have SGGS jI and secondly when Maharaj wills the tide of time will change a leader will appear and war or no war, khalistan will happen whether it is punjab or on a bigger scale than that only Maharaj knows but as sikhs we should have faith and that is the starting point and thats what kids lack today. We say we are sikhs but we dont follow Guru ji or have 100% faith in him, instead we look at the corruption etc and think nothing will change lets go abroad. but lets lok at the corruption in ourselves first we have turned our backs on Guru ji and then we complain why?

n30singh, i agree100% with you veer but we must also remember that indira was in our life time so the wounds are still fresh but you are correct our shaheeds should be celebrated they are our heeray (diamonds) and should never be mourned but always remembered forever and ever. and this episode in our history should be recorded for future generations. obviously not by dancing and make a mockeray like other religions do buy burning effigies etc, but buy prayer and ardas.

Should we be celebrating the jeet / fateh of the panth over tyranny and evil is what you are asking answer is yes, had this question ever been put to puratan Gursikhs and i am sure even after losing their families they would have said yes without any shadow of a doubt, but today some are too wrapped up in cotton wool / moh (attachment) and afraid to hurt even a fly !! Celebrating does not mean bhangra or throwing a party, but ardas and shukrana to waheguru ji for bringing indra's evil reign to an end and parnam / namashar to the saheeds who died for and defended the honour of the panth ! :respect:

Think of the innocent people who were killed before her death in the Darbar sahib complex. The assassination of indra was only a further excuse for the atrocities the indian government / rajiv gandhi were already committing/ planning against the sikhs, her assassination was not the sole cause of the slaughter of sikhs. Like i have already said people forget that hundred/ thousands innocents were already killed before her death. some celebrate some do not, but she was a tyrant who was party to many evil atrocities and deserved what she got.

What a load of tosh!, whose trust did they betray ? a murderess of innocent women and kids they did what sikhs have been ordained to do they destroyed a tyrant a dusht!

Another useless topic / post :lol2:

Hold on are not all women before marriage supposed to be looked upon as sister, mother and then the same after marriage and only a wife to be looked upon intimately ?, seems like what luckysingh said it happens much more in india now than in the west, decent girls will never entertain you or anyone else, there are good girls from good families out there and not necessarily amritdharis but you would expect amritdharis to set and example!, you will have to wait until Guru ji is ready for you to meet your live partner, maybe all these experiences you have had are a lesson from Guru ji that you being amritdhari should not be looking for girl friends.

Veer the issue here is not if he has flown and removed sri sahib, sikhs comply with the law but sometimes it just too much ! , the issue here is how far do you let these people go with our beliefs, lets show some unity, he is a young man from a good family he is not some hooligan or ghetto yob drug dealer or something like that ! How many sikhs have attacked innocent people in america (or anywhere else for that matter) answer none, but how many thugs call them what you like have pulled guns and shot school kids etc ? so why is america not banning guns? lets say some person had stepped on that bus with a revolver in his pocket, how would the driver know its ludicrous, if someone intends harm either they walk on the bus showing the driver the gun/ weapon at point blank, or they conceal it and then pull it out once on board, they dont have it on show and waltz on with the intent to harm (common sense).

These acts are not dirty, it is our minds that are filthy, love between husband and wife (only) and the act of intimacy is after all created by waheguru how else are we supposed to procreate, as for it just being for that reason, is correct to a certain degree, but then just having sex to procreate without intimacy does that not sound a little barbaric?, same for going to the toilet these are all acts created by God so how can they be wrong, its the manner in which they are acted out or thought of that is right or wrong , which one again comes down to us . we should be remembering waheguru 24/7, which i know is easier said than done but we should try our best.

Dumb america, you can put a weapon/ gun in your bag pull it out and kill people, but if your kirpan is on show its dangerous or offensive :stupidme: glad i dont live there, if i did live there i would carry a gun too, sikhs need to protect themselves especially after resent events in america regarding sikhs. Good on this brother . :respect:

Stops your kanga from falling out

Tie a keski veer. and stop trimming your beard and then become a Gursikh :biggrin2:

Yes watched this on sangat tv a few days ago, made my blood boil, how these people who carried out such atrocities can sleep at night and have no fear of Waheguru ji in beyond me. congress governments paap da kara must surely be full by now !! :no:. My heart goes out to this veer may Waheguru ji bless him. :respect: So sad if only the khalsa would rise up Waheguru ji. :sad2: :waheguru:

it shows on their faces either they will have fake smilies which stand out a mile or they will not smile or acknowledge you and are full of pride. I often wonder why are they not happy or friendly it is because they have no real love of the Guru or Gurbani, sometimes you see kirtanias looking at the tabla player with anger and frustration, but their are obviously some who are devoted but sadly not many.

These guys are not priests, it just their ticket to come abroad and to make money. Har kay sant nah akiyeh, benares kay thag . Do not call them the saints of God , they are thieves.

The main reason for the depletion of the turban, was the british who presented a clean shaven, cropped hair image as being more superior and civilized, which unfortunately the indians seem to accept especially the hindus.

ਮਾਸੁ ਮਾਸੁ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖੁ ਝਗੜੇ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਨਹੀ ਜਾਣੈ ॥ The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom.

While i do confess that what i know about yoga can be written on the back of a postage stamp, i have always thought three things about it. 1/ It is just a form of exercise and should not be given any higher status than this. 2/ The only spiritual food a Sikh needs is Naam, which can be found through SGGS JI only. 3/ True inner peace can not be achieved through yoga for e.g. the mind can not be controlled by yoga.

Have you guys never seen a white or black person that has similar facial looks to someone you know from punjabi / indian/ asian, community? I have seen this many times and all i can think is that (and it confirms to me) Vaheguru ji's jyot is in all of us . We are all his sargun roop, so this race thing is an illusion (maya).

So what about the story of sai mian mir visting Guru ji whilst they were held in prison and tortured also not true and were they even freinds !

please enlighten us about this not heard this before ? both mia mir and bhagats