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It was the Left Wingers groups and individuals like SWP, Blair Peach, Rock Against Racism, the Labour Government sanctioning the Macpherson Report that made living in this country as a member of an ethnically visible minority tolerable. When you read papers in areas dominated by Sikhs some unfortunately are involved in serious crime like drugs. Are you seriously suggesting now these are black Sikhs as brown Sikhs have never and will never commit serious crime! If you are so right wing go fight in Iraq, Afghanistan - you have shown the height of your ignorance Try living in a right wing counties like El Salvador where even belonging to a Trade Union will get you and your family killed!!!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/2...military1/print * News * World news * Iraq Her crime was to fall in love. She paid with her life When 17-year old Rand Abdel-Qader met a British soldier in Basra, she dreamt of romance. But five months later she was murdered in a savage attack by her father. But there will be no trial: this was an 'honour killing'. Investigation by Afif Sarhan in Basra, Mark Townsend and Caroline Davies * Afif Sarhan in Basra, Mark Townsend and Caroline Davies * The Observer, * Sunday April 27 2008 * Article history About this article Close This article appeared in the Observer on Sunday April 27 2008 on p8 of the News section. It was last updated at 00:00 on April 27 2008. Rand Abdel-Qader, 17, told her closest friend that she was in love from the moment she set eyes on the young British soldier working alongside her in Basra, and she dreamed of a future with him. It was an innocent infatuation but five months after Rand, a student of English at Basra University, met Paul, a 22-year-old soldier posted to southern Iraq, she was dead. She was stamped on, suffocated and stabbed by her father. Several brutal knife wounds punctured her slender, bruised body - from her face to her feet. He had done it, he proclaimed to the neighbours who soon gathered round, to 'cleanse his honour'. And as Rand was put into the ground, without ceremony, her uncles spat on her covered corpse because she had brought shame on the family. Her crime was the worst they could possibly imagine - she had fallen in love with a British soldier and dared to talk to him in public. Rand was murdered last month. That the relationship was innocent was no defence. She had been seen conversing intimately with Paul. It was enough to condemn her, because he was British, a Christian, 'the invader', and the enemy. The two met while he was helping to deliver relief aid to displaced families in the city and she was working as a volunteer. They continued to meet through their relief work in the following months. Rand last saw Paul in January, two months before her death. It was only on 16 March that her father, Abdel-Qader Ali, learned of their friendship. He was told by a friend, who worked closely with police, that Rand had been seen with Paul at one of the places they both worked as volunteers. Enraged, he headed straight home to demand an explanation from his daughter. 'When he entered the house, his eyes were bloodshot and he was trembling,' said Rand's mother, Leila Hussein, tears streaming down her face as she recalled her daughter's murder. 'I got worried and tried to speak to him but he headed straight for our daughter's room and he started to yell at her.' 'He asked if it was true that she was having an affair with a British soldier. She started to cry. She was nervous and desperate. He got hold of her hair and started thumping her again and again. 'I screamed and called out for her two brothers so they could get their father away from her. But when he told them the reason, instead of saving her they helped him end her life,' she said. She said Ali used his feet to press down hard on his own daughter's throat until she was suffocated. Then he called for a knife and began to cut at her body. All the time he was calling out that his honour was being cleansed. 'I just couldn't stand it. I fainted.' recalled Leila. 'I woke up in a blur later with dozens of neighbours at home and the local police.' According to Leila, her husband was initially arrested. 'But he was released two hours later because it was an "honour killing". And, unfortunately, that is something to be proud of for any Iraqi man.' At the police station where the father was held Sergeant Ali Jabbar told The Observer last week: 'Not much can be done when we have an "honour killing" case. You are in a Muslim society and women should live under religious laws. 'The father has very good contacts inside the Basra government and it wasn't hard for him to be released and what he did to be forgotten. Sorry but I cannot say more about the case.' Rand, considered impure, was given only a simple burial. To show their repugnance at her alleged crime, her family cancelled the traditional mourner ceremony. Two weeks after the murder, Leila left Ali. She could no longer bear to live under the same roof as her daughter's killer and asked for a divorce. 'I was beaten and had my arm broken by him,' she said. 'No man can accept being left by a woman in Iraq. But I would prefer to be killed than sleep in the same bed with a man who was able to do what he did to his own daughter, who, over the years, had only given him unconditional love.' Now she works for a women's organisation campaigning against honour killings. 'I just want to try to stop other girls having the same fate as my beloved Rand,' said Leila who is forced to move regularly from friend to friend A colleague of Leila's said: 'We prefer to change places each two weeks to prevent targeting. She has been threatened again by her husband's family and is very scared.' Throughout her friendship with Paul, Rand confided in only one person, her best friend Zeinab, 19. 'She used to say that her charity work had more than one meaning now. From the first time she saw him, she was helping needy families but also that Paul was helping her. With just a simple, caring smile, he was able to give her the sense of love, making her forget all about the hard and depressing life in Iraq,' said Zeinab. The two teenagers had spent hours talking about him,' she said. 'She loved to speak about his blond hair, his honey eyes, his white skin and the sweet way he had of speaking. 'He was very different from the local men who usually are tough and illiterate. I was in heaven when she was speaking about him. Everything looked so beautiful. 'But, I always had to remind Rand that she was a Muslim and her family was never going to accept her marrying a Christian, British soldier'. 'Unfortunately she never wanted to hear me. Her mind was very far from reality, but closer to an impossible dream.' Paul gave Rand gifts. She kept them - and him - secret from her family and asked Zeinab to take care of these small tokens of his affection for her. He gave her a charming cuddly animal. 'She couldn't take it home so she asked me to keep it for her,' said Zeinab. 'It's hard to look at it every day,' she said. Rand told Zeinab she and Paul had met only four times, though Zeinab doubts this. Their meetings were always in public and through the voluntary work that Paul carried out as part of his regiment's peacekeeping duties. Rand had an excellent command of English and spoke it fluently and that, said Zeinab, allowed them to communicate freely without others around understanding what they were saying. 'She was the only one who could speak English and it made it easier for her to get closer "through words" to him,' she said. Soon Rand began giving different and elaborate excuses to her family to enable her to continue her voluntary work. She persuaded her father that her work was vital in helping families. And she began paying daily visits to displacement camps, local aid agencies and hospitals in the hope of bumping into Paul. 'He used to tell her all about England. She told me his father had died from a disease and that it was a really sad story,' said Zeinab. 'She liked to speak about how couples could live together in his country. He told her that flowers could be found on every corner and he promised to take her one day to buy some in the streets of London. She was a fan of London and he told her about all the tourists attractions there.' 'But the thing she used to like talking about best was how he praised her beauty and her intelligence. She told me he called her "princess".' Despite knowing how dangerous the consequences of her actions could be, and the punishment she faced if caught, her passion for Paul grew stronger, said Zeinab. 'She never did anything more than talk to him. She was proud to be a virgin and had a dream to give herself to the man she loved only after her marriage. But she was seen as an animal,' said Zeinab. 'What they did to her was ugly and pathetic. Rand was just a young girl with romantic dreams. She always kept her religion close to her heart. She would never even hurt a petal on a rose.' Last year 133 women were killed in Basra - 47 of them for so-called 'honour killings', according to the Basra Security Committee. Out of those 47 cases there have been only three convictions for murder. Since January this year, 36 women have been killed. The British in Basra · Unopposed British forces enter Basra, Iraq's third largest city, on 21 March 2003. Residents welcome them. · During the following weeks the outskirts of the city witness some of the heaviest fighting during the invasion of Iraq. British forces led on foot by units of the 3rd Battalion The Parachute Regiment take city in early April. · Hopes that warm smiles and berets - the campaign to win hearts and minds - would be sufficient soon dissipate as soldiers encounter fierce insurgency. · Last September the last British troops withdraw from central Basra to airbase outside the city, with 168 service personnel, at that stage, having lost their lives trying to bring peace to the city. · Three months later Britain formally hands control of Basra province over to the Iraqi authorities. · British forces become directly involved in recent fighting in Basra, as clashes continue between the Iraqi army and militiamen of the Mahdi army. · Four thousand British personnel will remain in Basra for the foreseeable future after the government announced last week it had abandoned plans to withdraw 1,500 troops from the city.

Whilst I don't put myself in the category of a Saint I do try to lead a moral life which includes not buying counterfeit goods. How many Sikhs on this site buy copied DVDs, branded sports gear, stolen electronic goods?

That's I the point I am making!!! The West suffers from 9/11, Madrid bombings, 7/7 then there is Bali etc. etc. because of the perceived oppression of Moslems? If a person truly believes in justice then one must prepare to fight it's 'own' for the sake of humanity?

With the acts of genocide against a particular moslem ethnic group/tribe where are the Moslems suicide bombers to take revenge on the Sudanese Government? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_conflict

Who's worse the RSS or Congress - the events of 1984 were primarily Congress led operations? Love him or loathe him - Khushwant Singh expressed his gratitude to the Hindus when saying:“It was the Congress leaders who instigated mobs in 1984 and got more than 3000 people killed. I must give due credit to RSS and the BJP for showing courage and protecting helpless Sikhs during those difficult days. BJP party leader Atal Bihari Vajpayee himself intervened at a couple of places to help poor taxi drivers.” The Bharatiya Janata Party strongly condemned the riots.

WJKK WJKF Does anyone have first, second or third hand experience of what took place nearly 30 years ago, I think we as the Sikh Nation should log the experiences of that day. It always hasn't always been easy living in the West particularly when the Police on occasions have behaved rather like the Panjab Police? I hope next year 30 years on, we as the Sikh Community hold a Remembrance Service for Blair Peach! http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/2523959.stm 1979: Teacher dies in Southall race riots A 33-year-old man has died from head injuries after a bloody battle broke out between police and demonstrators in Southall. The fighting began when thousands of protesters gathered to demonstrate against a National Front campaign meeting. The extreme right-wing organisation had chosen Southall Town Hall to hold its St George's Day election meeting. The area has one of the country's biggest Asian communities. It was a case of the boot going in - there was no attempt to arrest anybody Martin Gerrald, Anti-Nazi League protestor Police had sealed off the area, and anti-racism demonstrators trying to make their way to the town hall were blocked. In the confrontation that followed, more than 40 people, including 21 police, were injured, and 300 were arrested. Bricks and bottles were hurled at police, who described the rioting as the most violent they have handled in London. Among the demonstrators was Blair Peach, a New Zealand-born member of the Anti-Nazi League. A teacher for special needs children in east London, he was a committed anti-racism activist. During an incident in a side street 100 yards from the town hall, he was seriously injured and collapsed, blood running down his face from serious head injuries. He died later in hospital. Witnesses said his injuries were caused by police baton blows. Martin Gerrald, one of the protestors, was nearby Mr Peach at the time. "Mr Peach was hit twice in the head with police truncheons and left unconscious," he said. "The police were wielding truncheons and riot shields. It was a case of the boot just going in - there was no attempt to arrest anybody." 'Excessively violent' charge Another witness, 24-year-old Parminder Atwal, took the injured teacher into his house and called an ambulance. He said, "I saw a policeman hit a man on the head as he sat on the pavement. The man tried to get up, fell back and then reeled across the road to my house." The Anti-Nazi League claim Mr Peach bore the brunt of a "brutal" and "excessively violent" police baton charge. A spokesman for Scotland Yard said it was impossible to comment on the death until a full-scale inquiry had been completed. In Context No police officer has ever been charged with the alleged attack on Blair Peach, although 11 eyewitnesses reported seeing him struck by police. An internal Metropolitan Police inquiry began on the day after his death, headed by Commander John Cass. Its findings were never made public. The inquest recorded a verdict of death by misadventure. The verdict was greeted with dismay, and 79 MPs called for a public inquiry into the case. The request was turned down. The Peach family gained access to parts of the Cass report in 1986. It named six officers, and in 1989 the Metropolitan Police reached an out-of-court settlement with Mr Peach's brother. Celia Stubbs, Mr Peach's partner at the time of the Southall riots, continues to campaign for a public investigation into his death.

WJKK WJKF Thank you for your replies keep them coming in. In the meantime read another article on the Police:- BBC NEWS Pcs resign after trips to seaside Two police officers have been forced to resign over claims they took patrol cars on seaside trips while on duty. The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said two other Gwent officers were fined and a fifth resigned ahead of the conduct hearing. Newspapers reported the Pcs were caught when a vehicle broke down on the way to Weston-super-Mare, after previous visits to Barry Island and Porthcawl. Gwent Police said officers must face "the consequence of their actions". It was claimed colleagues dubbed the group, four men and a woman, "the seaside five". The IPCC said the officers have not been subject to a criminal charge. According to newspaper reports, the unnamed constables dared each other to see how far they could travel away from their station, reaching resorts including Barry Island and Porthcawl - both outside the Gwent force area. We will not tolerate any behaviour that falls below the standard expected and required to deliver a top quality service to the public of Gwent Gwent Police It is understood the matter came to the notice of senior officers after their vehicle broke down while the group had been trying to reach Weston, the other side of the Bristol channel in Somerset. All four officers at the IPCC hearing were charged with behaving in a way which was likely to bring discredit to the police service. Three were charged with being neither open nor truthful and one officer was charged with failing to treat a member of the public with courtesy and respect. IPCC commissioner Tom Davies said: "This investigation has shown that the public can have confidence that the IPCC and the police service will vigorously tackle misconduct. "Gwent Police has dealt with the officers' behaviour following the IPCC managed investigation and is to be commended for its willingness to tackle a very small number of officers who have abused the trust put in them. "I will now ensure that the investigation concludes with a look at management processes within the force to ensure that appropriate lessons are learnt." The IPCC will not be naming these officers as they have not been subject to a criminal charge. The officers who were fined will each lose 13 days pay. Gwent Police said the resignation of one of the male officers last week was not related to the investigation. In a statement, the force said it did not normally comment on internal matters but was "mindful that the public's confidence in Gwent Police could be compromised by a lack of comment". It read: "Our officers, just like employees of other organisations, must face the consequences of their actions. "We will not tolerate any behaviour that falls below the standard expected and required to deliver a top quality service to the public of Gwent. "As has been demonstrated in this case, any behaviour that threatens this delivery and the public's confidence in the force will be dealt with swiftly and fairly." Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/wales/7267084.stm Published: 2008/02/27 14:30:09 GMT © BBC MMVIII

This article is not directly related to Sikhi none the less it is an extremely important subject as the way the Police discharges it duties has very serious consequences for us. So how do you rate the Police force where you live and why? I will kick off the debate as living in the UK I know feel the Police at the best of times are incompetent. An example being the recent conviction of a serial rapist and murderer who was able to commit these offences as the Police made 'mistakes' on an earlier investigation. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7264138.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7262795.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7264527.stm

During Word War II the Moslems took the side of fascism - the Serbs fought against the Axis powers. Serbs has never forgiven the ethnic Albanians for this act of treason.

Bishop warns of no-go zones for Non-Muslims By Jonathan Wynne-Jones Islamic extremists have created "no-go" areas across Britain where it is too dangerous for non-Muslims to enter, one of the Church of England's most senior bishops warns today. # Michael Nazir-Ali: Extremism has flourished as Britain lost Christianity # Have your say: What does the future hold for the Church of England? The Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester and the Church's only Asian bishop, says that people of a different race or faith face physical attack if they live or work in communities dominated by a strict Muslim ideology. The Right Reverend Michael Nazir-Ali, the Bishop of Rochester Bishop Nazir-Ali warns that attempts are being made to give Britain an increasingly Islamic character Writing in The Sunday Telegraph, he compares the threat to the use of intimidation by the far-Right, and says that it is becoming increasingly difficult for Christianity to be the nation's public religion in a multifaith, multicultural society. His comments come as a poll of the General Synod - the Church's parliament - shows that its senior leaders, including bishops, also believe that Britain is being damaged by large-scale immigration. Bishop Nazir-Ali, who was born in Pakistan, gives warning that attempts are being made to give Britain an increasingly Islamic character by introducing the call to prayer and wider use of sharia law, a legal system based on the Koran. In an attack on the Government's response to immigration and the influx of "people of other faiths to these shores", he blames its "novel philosophy of multiculturalism" for allowing society to become deeply divided, and accuses ministers of lacking a "moral and spiritual vision". advertisement Echoing Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Commission for Equalities and Human Rights, who has said that the country is "sleepwalking into segregation", the bishop argues that multiculturalism has led to deep divisions. David Davis, the shadow home secretary, has accused Muslims of promoting a kind of "voluntary apartheid" by shutting themselves in closed societies and demanding immunity from criticism. In the Synod survey, to be published this week, bishops, senior clergy and influential churchgoers said that an increasingly multi-faith society threatens the country's Christian heritage and blamed the divisions on the Government's failure to integrate immigrants into their communities. It found that more than one in three believe that a mass influx of people of other faiths is diluting the Christian nature of Britain and only a quarter feel that they have been integrated into society. The overwhelming majority - 80 per cent - said that the Government has not upheld the place of religion in public life and up to 63 per cent fear that the Church will be disestablished within a generation, breaking a bond that has existed between the Church and State since the Reformation. Calls for disestablishment have grown following research showing that attendance at Mass has overtaken the number of worshippers at Church of England Sunday services. Bishop Nazir-Ali, whose father converted from Islam to Catholicism, was criticised by Ibrahim Mogra, of the Muslim Council of Britain. He said: "It's irresponsible for a man of his position to make these comments. "He should accept that Britain is a multicultural society in which we are free to follow our religion at the same time as being extremely proud to be British. We wouldn't allow 'no-go' areas to happen. I smell extreme intolerance when people criticise multiculturalism without proper evidence of what has gone wrong." Religious membership in Britain: click to enlarge But the Bishop's concerns are shared by other members of the General Synod. The Rt Rev Nicholas Reade, the Bishop of Blackburn, which has a large Muslim community, said that it was increasingly difficult for Christians to share their faith in areas where there was a high proportion of immigrants of other faiths. He believes that increasing pressure will be put on the Government to begin the process of disestablishment and end the preferential status given to the Church of England. "The writing is on the wall," he said. Gordon Brown relinquished Downing Street's involvement in appointing bishops in one of his first facts as Prime Minister - a move viewed by some as a significant step towards disestablishment. Last night, Mr Davis said: "Bishop Nazir-Ali has drawn attention to a deeply serious problem. The Government's confused and counter-productive approach risks creating a number of closed societies instead of one open, cohesive one. It generates the risk of encouraging radicalisation and creating home-grown terrorism." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...6/nislam106.xml

Benazir Bhutto in her will has primed her son Bilawal to take over the PPP. What is it with the Indian sub-continent that thinks if a person becomes a PM or President then the future generations of that family must take charge of the country's helm? Look at the mess the Gandhi family made of India - well let the Bhutto's make a mess of Pakistan! There are more than enough leaders in both countries who have the intellect, a vision without the taint of corruption to lead the nation. To hell with political destinies.

The sad fact of this assassination is the way the lesser developed nations does politics. Corruption together with Swiss bank accounts, double dealing, political assassinations are the mainstay. In the meantime the country slips further down the GDP table and eventually I predict Pakistan will enter a period of civil war. When Pakistan was created violence dominated its birth - unfortunately for the Pakistanis in one hand they have the ballot paper and that is underwritten with an AK-47 in the other hand. Pakistan for far too long sponsored terrorism around the globe and now they are paying a terrible price, the winners today are the mad Mullahs - the losers modernity. The mad mullahs wish has been granted they too will reap what they have sown in the near future. For any nation to be successful the rule of law has to be upheld.

Britain is a democracy, the MP is throwing his 'toys out of the pram'. Is this the same Tory Party that were friends with Augusto Pinochet wanted in connection with widespread human rights violations both in Chile and abroad?

BBC NEWS Mosque programme claims rejected Media regulator Ofcom has rejected police claims that a Channel 4 programme was distorted. The programme, Dispatches, tackled claims of Islamic extremism and featured preachers at various mosques. West Midlands Police and the Crown Prosecution Service said the programme was heavily edited and distorted what the preachers were saying. But Ofcom said it found no evidence the broadcast, Undercover Mosque, had misled its audience. In a statement it said the one-hour documentary shown in January, was a legitimate investigation, uncovering matters of important public interest. We have maintained all along the comments made by certain speakers in the film spoke for themselves Andy Duncan, Channel 4 chief executive "Ofcom found no evidence the broadcaster had misled the audience or that the programme was likely to encourage or incite criminal activity. "On the evidence (including untransmitted footage and scripts), Ofcom found the broadcaster had accurately represented the material it had gathered and dealt with the subject matter responsibly and in context." The programme featured a reporter going undercover to reveal extreme and anti-democratic views being preached in British mosques - one of which was Green Lane Mosque in Birmingham - and within Islamic organisations which claimed to be mainstream. Andy Duncan, Channel 4 chief executive, said Ofcom's judgement vindicated the channel's strong defence of the programme. "We have maintained all along the comments made by certain speakers in the film spoke for themselves and this ruling confirms that." 'Calculated fashion' Kevin Sutcliffe, the channel's deputy head of news and current affairs, said his team had carried out a rigorous investigation for the programme, conducted over nine months. All the preachers featured were offered a right to reply and none of the individuals complained to Ofcom about the way they were represented, he said. "In these circumstances it seems perverse that Hardcash (the programme's producers) and Channel 4 should have found themselves the subject of a police investigation. "West Midlands Police acted in a calculated fashion - they made no attempt to discuss their concerns about the film with us in advance of going public with their complaint to Ofcom knowing that an allegation of 'fakery' would generate significant media interest. "Their action gave legitimacy to people preaching a message of hate to British citizens... and damaged the reputations of those involved in producing and broadcasting the programme," he added. West Midlands Police said it acknowledged Ofcom's findings. It said it had had a number of complaints from people about the programme which led it to carry out an investigation. The Crown Prosecution Service said there was insufficient evidence to bring charges against anyone, but it did raise concerns about the production of the programme. "West Midlands Police considered this and subsequently a referral to Ofcom, as the independent and experienced regulator was made," it said. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/engl...nds/7101728.stm Published: 2007/11/19 13:36:51 GMT © BBC MMVII

SarabhaPanjab - good work - well done for defending SP. The fools with no sense of history have no idea what the good work SP did in the earlier days. The Khalsa lives on in many variations, some take up the sword, some take up the pen, some protect our youth and women.

This is the crux of Islam, convert or die?

C4 'distorted' mosque programme Channel 4 aired the Dispatches show in January Programme clips Police are reporting Channel 4 to the media regulator Ofcom over the way an undercover programme was edited. But charges will not be brought against preachers featured in Dispatches, which tackled claims of Islamic extremism. West Midlands Police carried out its own inquiry into three speakers in the Undercover Mosque broadcast, and then into the programme-makers themselves. The Crown Prosecution Service said the show "completely distorted" what the trio said, a claim Channel 4 rejects. Kevin Sutcliffe, commissioning editor for Dispatches, said West Midlands police had produced no evidence to support their claims. "We find it extraordinary that they have gone public on these concerns without discussing them with us first," he said. To try and demonise the efforts of these people by taking their comments out of context was shocking Abu Usamah Green Lane Mosque preacher "We believe the comments made in the film speak for themselves - several speakers were clearly shown making abhorrent and extreme comments." He said the one-hour documentary, which was made over a nine-month period and broadcast in January, allowed comment to be seen in a fuller context. "All the speakers featured in the film were offered a right to reply and none denied making these comments, nor have any of them complained to Ofcom to our knowledge." Bombings 'justified' The Metropolitan Police said on Wednesday that a second Dispatches programme was also being investigated. Britain Under Attack featured a man known as "Abu Mohammed". He disguised his face with a scarf in the programme, which was shown on Monday, and said British Muslims were in "a state of war" and the 7 July bombings were "justified". A Met spokesman said: "We are assessing the content of a Dispatches programme broadcast on Monday 6 August to determine if any offences may have been disclosed." The spokesman said it was too early to say whether officers were investigating the people shown in the broadcast or the programme-makers. The January programme infiltrated a number of mosques, one of which was Green Lane Mosque in Small Heath, Birmingham. 'Moderate tradition' It investigated mosques run by organisations claiming to be dedicated to moderation. Abu Usamah, one of the preachers from Green Lane Mosque featured in the programme, said he was shocked when he saw himself depicted. "It was the fact that Green Lane Mosque has a 33-year-old tradition of preaching and teaching the moderate version of Islam. In this case we have been dealing with a heavily-edited television programme Bethan David, CPS lawyer "To try and demonise the efforts of these people by taking their comments out of context was shocking." Mr Usamah said he had been featured as saying homosexuals should be thrown from a mountain when in fact he was explaining it was an opinion featured in some books, which was not one he believed. An undercover reporter claimed to provide evidence that certain speakers preached messages of religious bigotry and extremism. In a piece about the programme, the Channel 4 Dispatches website said a reporter had attended talks at mosques and found preachers "condemning the idea of integration into British society, condemning British democracy as un-Islamic and praising the Taliban for killing British soldiers". Police said they acknowledged some parts of the programme may have been considered offensive, but, when analysed in full context, there was not enough evidence to bring charges. 'Completely distorted' The police investigation was extended to include looking at issues relating to the editing of the programme. Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) lawyer Bethan David scrutinised 56 hours of media footage, only some of which was used in the broadcast. She said: "The splicing together of extracts from longer speeches appears to have completely distorted what the speakers were saying. "The CPS has demonstrated it will not hesitate to prosecute those responsible for criminal incitement. "But in this case we have been dealing with a heavily-edited television programme, apparently taking out of context aspects of speeches which in their totality could never provide a realistic prospect of any convictions." Police asked the CPS to consider a prosecution of Channel 4 under the Public Order Act 1986 for showing material likely to stir up racial hatred, but they were advised there was insufficient evidence. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/engl...nds/6936681.stm Published: 2007/08/08 16:59:52 GMT © BBC MMVII

After the intelligence failings of the 7/7 terrorist attacks who in the right mind trusts the Police? What evidence does the Police require for 'forced conversions' they "@"*£^$" up the case of Banaz Mahmod the 20 year girl murdered by her own father and uncle - this was after she complained to the Police she feared for the life after falling in love with a fellow moslem. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6722699.stm This is the same Police force who have still failed to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice 14 years after his murder As the poet of Benjamin Zephaniah said in a tribute to Stephen Lawrence memory:- What Stephen Lawrence Has Taught Us (from 'Too Black, Too Strong') "We know who the killers are, We have watched them strut before us As proud as sick Mussolinis�, We have watched them strut before us Compassionless and arrogant, They paraded before us, Like angels of death Protected by the law. The Police the so called protectors of the Law failed the British Public on 7/7/2005 and have certainly failed the Sikh Community on the issue of 'forced conversions'.

On the 2nd May 2007 I put the story up on SikhSangat about Surjit Athwal, 27, who went missing in 1998 after allegedly being lured to India on the pretext of attending some weddings, you have already put me down as anti-muslim, being a Sikh am I also now anti-Sikh? I tell you what I am - anti honour killing!!! :angry: You accuse me of a dirty mind when you don't know me or have read any of my previous articles I have put up? Everyone has a right to practice their religion unfortunately extreme Islam impinges on my religion, freedom and democracy. If Hinduism wanted to continue practicing Suttee as a follower of our Gurus message we have to protest against this and stop this if is going on in our own backyard! Read Jasvinder Sanghera book - Shame.

BBC NEWS 'Honour killing' relatives guilty http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/engl...don/6722699.stm Banaz Mahmod's body was found in a buried suitcase Mobile footage A father has been found guilty of killing his daughter in what police have described as an honour killing. The body of Banaz Mahmod, 20, was found in a suitcase buried in a garden in Birmingham last year. Her father Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and uncle Ari Mahmod, 50, from Mitcham, south London, were both convicted of murder at the Old Bailey. A third defendant, Darbad Mares-Rasull, was cleared of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. Ari Mahmod was also found guilty of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. Mohamad Hama, 30, of West Norwood, south London, an associate of Ari, has pleaded guilty to the murder. Banaz's boyfriend was threatened by her family Miss Mahmod was killed after falling in love with a man her family did not want her to marry. Her father and uncle ordered the murder because they believed she had shamed the family, the three-month trial heard. Banaz had made several attempts to warn police that her life was in danger, even naming those she thought would kill her. In footage recorded following an earlier attempt on her life by her father in December 2005, she said she was "really scared". However her statement following the assault was allegedly not taken seriously enough by investigating officers. Several officers are being investigated as part of an internal review of the case by Scotland Yard's Directorate of Professional Standards. Banaz fled but later went back to her family and tried to carry on her relationship with boyfriend Rahmat Sulemani in secret. Mr Sulemani broke down in tears when giving testimony, saying they had been threatened with death if they carried on seeing each other. He later said: "My life went away when Banaz died. "The only thing which was keeping me going was the moment to see justice being done for Banaz." 'Ultimate betrayal' Banaz was urged to stay at a safe house but told officers she believed she would be safe at home because her mother was there. She disappeared on 24 January and her decomposed body was discovered in Handsworth, Birmingham, three months later. Her sister Bekhal, 22, who is in hiding from the family, condemned her relatives for taking Banaz's life. She said: "To do this to their own flesh and blood was unforgivable. Forgiveness isn't even a question. They don't deserve to be on this earth." After the verdict, Detective Inspector Caroline Goode, said: "Clearly there is no honour in killing... I think it is the ultimate betrayal for a parent to kill a child." CPS spokesman Paul Goddard said: "The murder of Banaz Mahmod by her father, uncle and their associates not only took away the life of a young woman, it left her boyfriend in fear of his life and also left other members of the family and the community in fear." Are you affected by the issues raised in this case? Send us your experiences by filling in the form below. Name Your E-mail address Town & Country Phone number (optional): Comments Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/engl...don/6722699.stm Published: 2007/06/11 15:45:32 GMT © BBC MMVII

WJKK WGJF Thank WaheGuru there are Sikhs who give a dam about our community. We in the Sikh Community are fed up with Extreme Islam which is just another excuse for Fascism. What does white Britain propose on tackling Extreme Islam which has already declared Jihad on this wonderful country of ours which we have adopted as our own home? Long Live the Khalsa!!! In memory of the 7/7 victims.

Programme Information Panorama BBC One Mon 7 May, 20:30 - 21:00 30 mins White Fright: Vivian White reports from a northern town about the increasing separation between Muslim Asians and whites and why they are being driven apart by religion, culture and language. Subtitles Widescreen Stereo Website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/panorama Email: panorama@bbc.co.uk Subject: News; Current Affairs Factual; Documentaries http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/prog...0_4223_24525_30

Mother-in-law on trial for murder A young wife was strangled during a trip to India with her mother-in-law, an Old Bailey court has heard. Surjit Athwal, 27, went missing in 1998 after allegedly being lured to India on the pretext of attending some weddings. Her disappearance remained a mystery until other family members decided to brave their fear of reprisals and come forward, the prosecution said. Her husband Sukhdave Athwal, 42, and his mother, Bachan Athwal, 68, from Hayes, west London, both deny murder. Forged letters The case involved an "unhappy marriage" and a degree of tension between Surjit and her mother-in-law, said Michael Worsley QC, prosecuting. This matter came to light as late as it did because some members of the family who knew the truth of what had happened were frightened Michael Worsley QC He said a plan was hatched to get Surjit Athwal to India "on a pretext of going to some weddings" which the two women did in fact attend. "Thereafter, certainly within a few days, she completely disappeared from the surface of the Earth," he said. When Bachan Athwal returned to the UK she said her daughter-in-law had been strangled by her brother or a friend of his, the court heard. It was alleged she and her son forged letters impersonating British police to their Indian counterparts to throw detectives off the scent. The pair also faked a document transferring ownership of the home Surjit Athwal part-owned into their names, the court was told. Her body was never found despite an "elaborate" investigation by British police, Mr Worsley said. He said the matter came to light after some of her husband's relatives decided to break their silence despite their fears. "They were frightened that if they told anybody the same sort of thing might happen to them as they believed happened to the victim," he said. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/engl...don/6615541.stm Published: 2007/05/02 13:02:01 GMT © BBC MMVII

To the the Sikh Youth who managed to get Miss S back you have done a tremendous job for a tradition going back many many years, the Khalsa salutes you! http://www.sikh-history.com/sikhhist/archi...re-nov2000.html PS What the hell do we pay taxes for the Police for?