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According to a 1994 estimate, Punjabis (Sikhs and non-Sikhs) comprised 10 to 15 percent of all ranks in the Indian Army, although the state contained less than 3% of the country's population. The Indian government does not release religious or ethnic origins of the military personnel, but a 1991 report by Tim McGirk estimated that 20 percent of Indian Army officers were Sikhs. Sikh soldiers did mutiny in 1984 but when you have the likes of Badal, Longowal, Tohra, Amarinder, KPS Gill, General Brar, SPGC, Akal Takht etc.etc. controlling Punjab & Sikhism as their own personal domain (Sikhism doesn't even get a look in) what point does a rebellion serve? Who are the real traitors of Sikhism? Issue Date June 30, 1984 It began at Sriganganagar, a border town in Rajasthan where over 400 jawans of 9 Sikh Light Infantry rebelled. This was followed by the mutiny at Ramgarh near Ranchi in Bihar where, charged by rumours that women were being raped by the army in Punjab, 1,438 recruits revolted, killing Brigadier R.C. Puri, the commandant, and escaped with weapons. They surrendered after bloody gun battles in five places. Similar desertions took place in Pune, Thane, Jammu, Siliguri, Silchar and Alwar. - Shekhar Gupt http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/operation-bluestar-a-tragedy-that-outraged-sikhs-but-underlined-importance-of-decisiveness/1/245520.html Once Sikhism overhauls itself to tackle sycophants that even gave Siropa to Amitabh Bachchan with the allegations against him. Then there is casteism don't forget at one time the lower castes were barred from entering Harmandir Sahib, the evilness of female foeticide, singers like Gurdas Maan,Honey Singh paying more respect to other religions, lyrics compromising of an adult theme based around girls & alcohol & the superiority of one caste over another, a lack of education, lack of diverse jobs in Punjab. Go to any Sikh house their DVD collection will be larger than their book collection? Having said the above I am heartened with the likes of Basics of Sikhi, SAS, Khalsa Aid etc. I will end with a line from the Ardas if we just follow the fundamental of these lines we can revamp Sikhism into a world religion not one just concentrated in Punjab? "Those who dwelled on God's Name, shared their honest earnings with others, wielded sword in battlefield, distributed food in companionship"....,

A valid question which deserves an answer. We as Sikhs in the UK are recognised as high achievers with record levels of qualifications, high employment levels, high home ownership, low levels of crime committed, looking after the elderly within our own homes etc. We have a tendency sometimes to highlight the negatives rather than celebrating our achievements. You look at other religions & cultures going through absolute turmoil for e.g. Mexico fighting a drugs war which since 2006 has resulted in estimates from 60,00 to 120,000 murders and now labelled a narco state. The Rwandan Genocide of 1996 in a 100 day period 500,00 to 1,000,000 killed in genocidal mass slaughter. With myself posting up these news articles I am merely trying to demonstrate other cultures & religions are going turmoil and may never end or be fixed so therefore we have to celebrate our successes. Yes we have pressure of an increasing secular youth, marriage outside faith, caste-ism, female infanticide, victims of grooming, disrespect of our religion from within the Sikh community and outside but I am confident with the likes of Basics of Sikhi, Sikh Awareness Society, Khalsa Aid we can turn this all around.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3279582/Family-beat-teenage-girl-death-forcing-live-regime-fear-lick-toilet-bowl-eat-paper.html Family 'beat teenage girl to death after forcing her to live under regime of fear where she was made to lick the toilet bowl and eat paper'Shahena Uddin, 19, from Watford, was punished by siblings for 'crimes' They would hit her, ban her from using toilet and make her eat own faeces She was found dead in bathroom in October after allegedly being beaten Her brother and sister-in-law deny murder; five others deny allowing death By Steph Cockroft for MailOnline Published: 17:21, 19 October 2015 | Updated: 19:40, 19 October 2015 1.4k shares +3 Shahena Uddin, 19, who was one of eight siblings, was 'regularly punished' by her brothers and sisters, for 'crimes' such as eating at the wrong speed A teenage girl was beaten to death by her own family after living under a 'regime of fear' in which she was forced to lick the toilet bowl and eat her own faeces, a court has heard. Shahena Uddin, 19, who was one of eight siblings, was 'regularly punished' by her brothers and sisters, for 'crimes' such as eating at the wrong speed. Punishments would allegedly include being force-fed rice and paper and being made to stand for long periods staring into a toilet bowl. She was even banned from using the toilet at their home in Watford but would be punished further if she attempted to use the sink, St Albans Crown Court was told. But the violence is alleged to have plumbed new depths of depravity in October last year when she was found beaten to death on her bathroom floor after choking on her own vomit. The court heard how, when she was found the following day, the Bangladeshi teenager had endured 'several beatings' - including with weapons - and that both sides of her head had been severely attacked. Ambulance staff, who were called to the house by the family, were told she was sick and fainted. But by then, her four brothers, a sister and her two sisters-in-law had attempted to cover their tracks, the court was told. Prosecutor Simon Trimmer QC said blood and vomit stains had been covered up and that Shahena's bloodstained clothing had been put into bin bags outside. He said: 'Shahena died at the hands of members of her own family in her own home. She probably endured several beatings that night. 'This was a troubled family unit held together by internal discipline of an extreme variety. She had been beaten with weapons during the previous 24 hours.' RELATED ARTICLESPrevious 1 Next Couple accused of murdering Becky Watts had threesomes with... 'Speak English or go back to your own country': Thug throws... Share this articleShare Suhail Uddin, 35, and his wife Salma Begum, 32 - who became the teenager's legal guardians in 2010 - are now standing trial, accused of Shahena's murder. Begum is also accused of causing or allowing the death of a vulnerable adult. They were charged alongside Shahena's three other brothers, Jewell, 27, Jhuhal, 33 and Tohel Uddin, 24, who all deny causing or allowing the death of a vulnerable adult. Shahena's sister Rehena Uddin, 22, also denies causing or allowing the death of a vulnerable adult. Laila Begum, 25, who is the wife of Jhuhal Uddin, denies causing or allowing the death of a vulnerable adult. The violence is alleged to have plumbed new depths of depravity last October when the teenager was found beaten to death on her bathroom floor after choking on her own vomit the night before. Pictured: Forensic officers at the family home in Watford The court heard how, when she was found, the teenager had endured 'several beatings' - including with weapons - and that both sides of her head had been severely attacked. Pictured: An officer stands guard Outlining the case, Mr Trimmer told the court: 'Shahena was a vulnerable young person. She suffered abuse and violence at the hands of her own family. 'The regime of brutality and extreme violence was so deeply embedded and feared, that she could not risk the results of any form of complaint to the outside world.' The court heard how, in 2010, her older brother Suhail and his wife Salma became the legal guardians of Shahena and two other sisters. The jury was also told how Shahena told friends that she was beaten. But she would go on to deny the stories, amid fears she would be beaten. Mr Trimmer said: 'When they tried to complain on her behalf, she was obliged, for fear of worse to come, to deny what she had said to those school friends.' The court also heard how she was hit with weapons such as a Wii baseball bat, a mop handle and a glow stick and even made to eat her own vomit. One of her sisters told police that the female siblings were often forced to eat too much rice 'if they didn't eat nicely', the court heard. She said Shahena had spoken of running away. The trial continues.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3278018/How-young-Saudis-drink-despite-country-s-strong-laws-tipple-choice-99-cent-proof-alcohol.html The real Arabian nights: Extraordinary picture shows drunk, burka-clad woman passed out in a Saudi street as ex-pats lift lid on secret debauchery Police usually turn a blind eye to parties behind Western compound walls But it is claimed they also ignore the wild parties thrown by Saudis Ex-pats reveal Saudis brew super-strength alcohol made from potatoes Rising numbers are now also taking Captagon - the drug favoured by ISIS By Flora Drury For Mailonline Published: 17:05, 18 October 2015 | Updated: 18:49, 18 October 2015 70 shares View comments It is not a picture one expects to see coming out of Saudi Arabia: a burka-clad woman, lying down drunk in the streets of the capital. But ex-pats have revealed how this is not a surprising sight, as young Saudis do drink and take drugs at debauched gatherings - despite their countries strict laws. Westerners - who themselves admit to wild parties on compounds in the desert state - have lifted the lid on the excesses of their Saudi neighbours, including a growing taste for a drug used by ISIS fighters before they go into battle. Scroll down for video +6 Wild parties: The western compounds have always been known for their parties, but Saudis also engage in drinking and drug taking, according to ex-pats. The claims are backed up by this picture, apparently of a woman in a burqa passed out on the streets of Ridyah, despite the country's strict laws Dry: Technically, selling alcohol is banned in Riyadh, and all Saudi cities, but ex-pats say it is freely available Falling foul of the law: British grandfather Karl Andree has been jailed for the last 12 months, after he was found with alcohol in his car. He now faces the prospect of 350 lashes for a couple of bottles of wine Their claims came as the picture of the 'drunk' woman emerged, apparently collapsed after a gathering held in the capital Riyadh - one of many held in the strictly Muslim country, right beneath the nose of the strict authorities. It throws into question exactly why British grandfather Karl Andree has been sentenced to 350 lashes for having a few bottles of homemade wine in his car when the authorities are known to turn a blind eye to the excesses of its residents - for a price. In theory, alcohol is banned. At worst, a person caught with alcohol can be put to death. Most of the time, however, they are sentenced to lashes and time behind bar, like Mr Andree. RELATED ARTICLESPrevious 1 2 Next More than 75,000 sign petition calling for release of... Cameron and the Arab Sheiks' web of influence that... ISIS gunman wearing a suicide belt shoots dead five... Share this articleShare However, that doesn't stop people from brewing, buying and consuming alcohol in vast consequences - especially within the walled compounds where westerners live. 'The parties are pretty crazy even by western standards,' one ex-pat told the Sunday Mirror. Tony, another ex-pat, told the BBC that while the compounds are like 'holiday camps' - but the Saudis were just as likely to be found with a drink in their hand. 'There is quite a drinking culture with the Saudis themselves,' he said. 'Most of the guys that I socialise with have stocks of Jack Daniels and other booze, as well as buying stuff that some of the expats brew.' Harsh: Punishment for those caught with alcohol can be death, but is more usually prison and flogging Risk: Despite this, young Saudis are known to make their own alcohol, some at a shocking 99 per cent prooof They also are known to make their own 99 per cent proof moonshine, made from potatoes, the Mirror's source revealed. The partying culture is nothing new. Five years ago, Wikileaks revealed how a Saudi prince threw a party for 150 20 and 30-somethings, where booze was flowing freely and prostitutes mingled with the super-rich. Attendees were protected from the authorities thanks to their host's royal status, according to an American diplomat, the Guardian reported. The dispatch also revealed a bottle of Smirnoff vodka could fetch as much as 1,500 riyals (£250), while the local version will cost just 100 riyals (£16). But it doesn't stop at drink: the Mirror's source also revealed how rich young Saudis have got a taste for the Syrian-made drug Captagon - a drug used by ISIS fighters. It has previously been reported that the drug is used to keep the fighters on both sides of the bloody conflict alert, allowing them to fight for longer. However, the source claimed: 'Rich young Saudi men love it and it has led to a deadly craze known as Drifting where they speed expensive sports cars up to 100mph and then slam on the hand brake for fun.' Read more:'Devout' Saudis partying on booze, drugs and hookers while Briton faces flogging which could kill him - Mirror Online WikiLeaks cables: Saudi princes throw parties boasting drink, drugs and sex | World news | The Guardian Saudi Arabia drinking: The risks expats take for a tipple - BBC News

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3278071/Migrant-worker-strung-hands-feet-beaten-death-India-workers-look-nothing.html Migrant worker dies in India after being strung up by his hands and feet and beaten for 34 MINUTES by his boss while other workers filmed on mobiles... but did nothing Shocking video purports to show a migrant worker being beaten to death Filmed in northern India, he is seen hanging chained by his legs and arms A group of men stand around him, while one strikes him with a bat Police have confirmed they are investigating, and have identified suspects By Corey Charlton for MailOnline Published: 15:38, 18 October 2015 | Updated: 18:29, 18 October 2015 59 shares 6 View comments A shocking video has surfaced of a migrant worker being beaten to death in India following allegations of workplace theft. The film purports to show migrant worker Ram Singh held captive and hanging chained by his hands and feet after he was accused of stealing. While most the people seen in the video stand by doing nothing, one man, armed with a bat, repeatedly strikes him while he cries out in pain. +3 The video purports to show Ram Singh being held captive during an in ordeal that ended in his death The unedited version of the video, filmed in the city of Amritsar and which lasts for 34 minutes, is too distressing to publish. It is not clear who filmed the brutal assault, but it was alleged to have been a punishment inflicted by an employer following an allegation of workplace theft. Share The country's north is home to a large population of migrant workers, where human rights abuses are often reported among workers. The Times of India reported the video was filmed in the factory where Ram Singh worked. His wife explained there was a theft at the factory and her husband was blamed, with a group of men turning up at the couple's home to threaten him. She said: 'On Thursday, a few people came to our house in Khankot village in a car and forcibly took away my husband. 'They beat him mercilessly and threw him on [the] road. Later his body was recovered.' Her account of the events matched that given by a nearby resident, who also described seeing him being bundled into a car. India Times reported bystanders can also be heard hurling abuse at him in Punjabi. A spokesperson at the nearby police office confirmed it had opened a case report against three people, who had not yet been found. The incident occurred at a factory in the city of Amritsar, northern India, which is famed for its Golden Temple (pictured) Read more:Hung upside down, migrant labourer mercilessly beaten to death - The Times of India Migrant Labourer Hung Upside Down And Beaten To Death In Punjab Factory, Video Of Murder Goes Viral

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3277229/German-mayoral-candidate-stabbed-neck-targeted-support-refugees.html German mayoral candidate stabbed in the neck after being targeted 'because of her support for refugees' Mayoral candidate for German city Cologne, Henriette Reker, was stabbed Police said a 44-year-old man sprang on her as she campaigned in the city An aide was seriously injured, while three others received minor injuries Ms Reker has been instrumental in organising accommodation for refugees By Imogen Calderwood For Mailonline Published: 17:36, 17 October 2015 | Updated: 00:52, 18 October 2015 1.3k shares 65 View comments +12 Henriette Reker, who is running for mayor of the city of Cologne as an independent, and one of her aides were left severely injured after being stabbed A German mayoral candidate has been stabbed in the neck in an attack with 'anti-foreigner motives'. Henriette Reker, who is running for mayor of the city of Cologne as an independent, and one of her female aides were left severely injured in the savage assault. Police believe that she was targeted because of her extensive work in housing Germany's refugees. Germany’s interior minister said the attack underlined growing concerns over hatred and violence during the refugee crisis. German leader Angela Merkel expressed her 'shock' following news of the attack. Ms Reker, 58, currently heads Cologne’s social affairs and integration department and is responsible for refugee housing. A 44-year-old man sprang on the pair while they were campaigning in the western city, the fourth largest in Germany, police said. The German national and resident of Cologne said he had been unemployed for several years. He told officials that he targeted Ms Reker and that ‘he wanted to and did commit this act because of anti-foreigner motives’, according to Norbert Wagner, head of the police criminal investigation unit in Cologne. Three other people were also injured, although not seriously. Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere described the stabbing as ‘an attack on our democracy’ and said he had long been ‘concerned by the hate-filled language and violent actions that accompany the refugee debate in Germany’. ‘This cowardly attack in Cologne is further evidence of the increasing radicalisation of the refugee debate,’ he continued. +12 A 44-year-old man sprang on the pair while they were campaigning in the western German city, police said +12 Cologne Police Chief Wolfgang Albers said Ms Reker has been involved in the supporting and helping to house refugees in the city +12 Chancellor Angela Merkal, Germany's leader, has expressed 'shock' at the news of the attack. Ms Merkel’s policy has led to growing tensions in Germany, triggering a backlash from her conservative allies and spawning a growing number of increasingly vocal far-right protests

dallysingh101, I'm not bonkers I was merely trying to demonstrate that all these forums were linked by one religion, please see below. Why Is Russia Doing This ? Sending 150,000 Troops To Fight Isis. - it's because they Russia has Islamists problems at home and are trying to get this in check on the domestic and foreign front. Oh Dear Oh Dear Behsharam Buddi - if Sukwinder converted to Buddhism would she be drug dealing? Sunny Hundals New Article - Sunny Hundal slams so called extremist Sikhs (whatever that is) and yet remains silent on workers rights trampled on across the Gulf states, especially the physical and sexual violence against foreign domestic workers especially women! Sikh Man Builds Mosque For Muslims In Punjab - why did this so called Sikh put another religion ahead of the Sikh Panth, what abour parchar to 1 billion Indians to bring them in to the fold of Sikhism? It was stated that the 20th Century was about Capitalism V Communism, various intellectuals are stating the 21st Century will be defined by Islam v The Rest of the World!

Dear JagsawSingh, A great put down, cutting with a great sense of humour, I take your comments on board ;-)I also hoping in the true Spirit of Sikhi you bear no malice toward a fellow Sikh? The point I was trying to get across we outside of Islam are seen as Infidels and not even considered worthy of citizens, hence the Dhimmi status and the way this plays out in the world is with the Indian maid now with life changing injuries. So why would someone like Kulwinder swap Sikhi for Islam, she has given up her freedoms both in spiritual terms and now physical by being in prison? What are the girls parents, siblings, extended family & friends thinking at this point in time? When she is out of prison she will need to earn an income. With a criminal record for smuggling Class A drugs of a substantial sum her future is bleak to say the least on all fronts!

Sunny Hundal, Malala Yousafzai, Sayeeda Hussain Warsi, Yasmin Alibhai Brown, India Workers Association, Unite Against Fascism and all the trendy left individuals and groups notice their silence on the following. I doubt we will see the this lot march on the Saudia Arabian embassy unlike when they link up to march on against the Israeli embassy!!! The abuse of foreign workers and minorities in the Middle East is bordering on genocide! http://www.dailymail...rived-food.html Housemaid has her hand chopped off by female Saudi Arabian employer after complaining to authorities she had been tortured and deprived of food Kasturi Munirathinam was working as a cleaner in Saudi city of Riyadh Her arm was cut off, allegedly by her employer after she tried to escape Indian cleaner claims she had been tortured and deprived of food By Tom Wyke for MailOnline Published: 09:39, 9 October 2015 | Updated: 15:23, 9 October 2015 3.7k shares 539 View comments An Indian housemaid had her hand hacked off allegedly by her female employer in Saudi Arabia and has complained she has been tortured whilst working in Riyadh. Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working as a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Since she started working in Riyadh, she said she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers. Scroll down for video +3 Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Her family said that when Ms Munirathinam tried to escape, her employer decided to punish her and cut off her hand. 'When she tried to escape harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' her sister, S Vijayakumari, told the Press Trust of India. Share this articleShare 'The incident happened after… she complained about torture and non-payment of wages by her employer.' she said. Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised. A video has emerged on social media, allegedly showing the moments after Ms Munirathinam was attacked. Since she started working for Riyadh, Kasturi Munirathinam alleged she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised 'I pleaded with the lady not to harm me but she kicked me, punched me and cut off my arm. I want to go back home. Please help me,' she says in the video according to the Times of India. 'Kasturi's employer was angered after she apprised local officials about the harassment she was facing there, she was not even provided food,' her sister S Vijayakumari told the Press Trust of India news agency. 'When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' she said. Sushma Swaraj, India's minister for internal affairs, tweeted about the woman's plight in Saudi Arabia. 'Chopping of hand of Indian lady - We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia,' she wrote. It is thought Ms Munirathinam sought work in Saudi Arabia to help earn money for her husband and four children in India. Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup has spoken out against the attack on the Indian woman, telling the Indian Express that India had launched an investigation into the attack and will 'continue to seek justice for the victim'. 'Our embassy in Riyadh has taken up the matter with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for strict action in the matter and severe punishment for the sponsor,' he said. He said a case of attempted murder should be lodged against the sponsor 'so that he is punished, if found guilty as per law.' Read more:Assault on Indian maid by Saudi sponsor brutal, unacceptable: Sushma Swaraj - The Times of India Saudi employer chops off Indian woman’s hand, Delhi seeks action | The Indian Express Saudi Incident: Victim's family appeals central govt to facilitate her return - YouTube

Talk to the Moslem person about current affairs and what he makes of this??? http://www.dailymail...rived-food.html Housemaid has her hand chopped off by female Saudi Arabian employer after complaining to authorities she had been tortured and deprived of food Kasturi Munirathinam was working as a cleaner in Saudi city of Riyadh Her arm was cut off, allegedly by her employer after she tried to escape Indian cleaner claims she had been tortured and deprived of food By Tom Wyke for MailOnline Published: 09:39, 9 October 2015 | Updated: 15:23, 9 October 2015 3.7k shares 539 View comments An Indian housemaid had her hand hacked off allegedly by her female employer in Saudi Arabia and has complained she has been tortured whilst working in Riyadh. Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working as a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Since she started working in Riyadh, she said she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers. Scroll down for video +3 Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Her family said that when Ms Munirathinam tried to escape, her employer decided to punish her and cut off her hand. 'When she tried to escape harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' her sister, S Vijayakumari, told the Press Trust of India. Share this articleShare 'The incident happened after… she complained about torture and non-payment of wages by her employer.' she said. Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised. A video has emerged on social media, allegedly showing the moments after Ms Munirathinam was attacked. Since she started working for Riyadh, Kasturi Munirathinam alleged she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised 'I pleaded with the lady not to harm me but she kicked me, punched me and cut off my arm. I want to go back home. Please help me,' she says in the video according to the Times of India. 'Kasturi's employer was angered after she apprised local officials about the harassment she was facing there, she was not even provided food,' her sister S Vijayakumari told the Press Trust of India news agency. 'When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' she said. Sushma Swaraj, India's minister for internal affairs, tweeted about the woman's plight in Saudi Arabia. 'Chopping of hand of Indian lady - We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia,' she wrote. It is thought Ms Munirathinam sought work in Saudi Arabia to help earn money for her husband and four children in India. Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup has spoken out against the attack on the Indian woman, telling the Indian Express that India had launched an investigation into the attack and will 'continue to seek justice for the victim'. 'Our embassy in Riyadh has taken up the matter with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for strict action in the matter and severe punishment for the sponsor,' he said. He said a case of attempted murder should be lodged against the sponsor 'so that he is punished, if found guilty as per law.' Read more:Assault on Indian maid by Saudi sponsor brutal, unacceptable: Sushma Swaraj - The Times of India Saudi employer chops off Indian woman’s hand, Delhi seeks action | The Indian Express Saudi Incident: Victim's family appeals central govt to facilitate her return - YouTube

Why does Khalsa Aid do this when they should be reaching out to Indian Citizens so we Sikhs can become a significant minority??? Meanwhile... http://www.dailymail...rived-food.html Housemaid has her hand chopped off by female Saudi Arabian employer after complaining to authorities she had been tortured and deprived of food Kasturi Munirathinam was working as a cleaner in Saudi city of Riyadh Her arm was cut off, allegedly by her employer after she tried to escape Indian cleaner claims she had been tortured and deprived of food By Tom Wyke for MailOnline Published: 09:39, 9 October 2015 | Updated: 15:23, 9 October 2015 3.7k shares 539 View comments An Indian housemaid had her hand hacked off allegedly by her female employer in Saudi Arabia and has complained she has been tortured whilst working in Riyadh. Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working as a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Since she started working in Riyadh, she said she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers. Scroll down for video +3 Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Her family said that when Ms Munirathinam tried to escape, her employer decided to punish her and cut off her hand. 'When she tried to escape harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' her sister, S Vijayakumari, told the Press Trust of India. Share this articleShare 'The incident happened after… she complained about torture and non-payment of wages by her employer.' she said. Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised. A video has emerged on social media, allegedly showing the moments after Ms Munirathinam was attacked. Since she started working for Riyadh, Kasturi Munirathinam alleged she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised 'I pleaded with the lady not to harm me but she kicked me, punched me and cut off my arm. I want to go back home. Please help me,' she says in the video according to the Times of India. 'Kasturi's employer was angered after she apprised local officials about the harassment she was facing there, she was not even provided food,' her sister S Vijayakumari told the Press Trust of India news agency. 'When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' she said. Sushma Swaraj, India's minister for internal affairs, tweeted about the woman's plight in Saudi Arabia. 'Chopping of hand of Indian lady - We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia,' she wrote. It is thought Ms Munirathinam sought work in Saudi Arabia to help earn money for her husband and four children in India. Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup has spoken out against the attack on the Indian woman, telling the Indian Express that India had launched an investigation into the attack and will 'continue to seek justice for the victim'. 'Our embassy in Riyadh has taken up the matter with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for strict action in the matter and severe punishment for the sponsor,' he said. He said a case of attempted murder should be lodged against the sponsor 'so that he is punished, if found guilty as per law.' Read more:Assault on Indian maid by Saudi sponsor brutal, unacceptable: Sushma Swaraj - The Times of India Saudi employer chops off Indian woman’s hand, Delhi seeks action | The Indian Express Saudi Incident: Victim's family appeals central govt to facilitate her return - YouTube

This is why Russia is involved and is sending in troops to fights the ISIS Daesh, so their citizens will not suffer under a Islamic Caliphate unlike the west kow towing to so called Islamic allies ie Turkey, Saudia Arabia!!! http://www.dailymail...rived-food.html Housemaid has her hand chopped off by female Saudi Arabian employer after complaining to authorities she had been tortured and deprived of food Kasturi Munirathinam was working as a cleaner in Saudi city of Riyadh Her arm was cut off, allegedly by her employer after she tried to escape Indian cleaner claims she had been tortured and deprived of food By Tom Wyke for MailOnline Published: 09:39, 9 October 2015 | Updated: 15:23, 9 October 2015 3.7k shares 539 View comments An Indian housemaid had her hand hacked off allegedly by her female employer in Saudi Arabia and has complained she has been tortured whilst working in Riyadh. Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working as a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Since she started working in Riyadh, she said she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers. Scroll down for video +3 Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Her family said that when Ms Munirathinam tried to escape, her employer decided to punish her and cut off her hand. 'When she tried to escape harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' her sister, S Vijayakumari, told the Press Trust of India. Share this articleShare 'The incident happened after… she complained about torture and non-payment of wages by her employer.' she said. Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised. A video has emerged on social media, allegedly showing the moments after Ms Munirathinam was attacked. Since she started working for Riyadh, Kasturi Munirathinam alleged she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised 'I pleaded with the lady not to harm me but she kicked me, punched me and cut off my arm. I want to go back home. Please help me,' she says in the video according to the Times of India. 'Kasturi's employer was angered after she apprised local officials about the harassment she was facing there, she was not even provided food,' her sister S Vijayakumari told the Press Trust of India news agency. 'When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' she said. Sushma Swaraj, India's minister for internal affairs, tweeted about the woman's plight in Saudi Arabia. 'Chopping of hand of Indian lady - We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia,' she wrote. It is thought Ms Munirathinam sought work in Saudi Arabia to help earn money for her husband and four children in India. Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup has spoken out against the attack on the Indian woman, telling the Indian Express that India had launched an investigation into the attack and will 'continue to seek justice for the victim'. 'Our embassy in Riyadh has taken up the matter with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for strict action in the matter and severe punishment for the sponsor,' he said. He said a case of attempted murder should be lodged against the sponsor 'so that he is punished, if found guilty as per law.' Read more:Assault on Indian maid by Saudi sponsor brutal, unacceptable: Sushma Swaraj - The Times of India Saudi employer chops off Indian woman’s hand, Delhi seeks action | The Indian Express Saudi Incident: Victim's family appeals central govt to facilitate her return - YouTube

Meanwhile... http://www.dailymail...rived-food.html Housemaid has her hand chopped off by female Saudi Arabian employer after complaining to authorities she had been tortured and deprived of food Kasturi Munirathinam was working as a cleaner in Saudi city of Riyadh Her arm was cut off, allegedly by her employer after she tried to escape Indian cleaner claims she had been tortured and deprived of food By Tom Wyke for MailOnline Published: 09:39, 9 October 2015 | Updated: 15:23, 9 October 2015 3.7k shares 539 View comments An Indian housemaid had her hand hacked off allegedly by her female employer in Saudi Arabia and has complained she has been tortured whilst working in Riyadh. Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working as a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Since she started working in Riyadh, she said she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers. Scroll down for video +3 Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Her family said that when Ms Munirathinam tried to escape, her employer decided to punish her and cut off her hand. 'When she tried to escape harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' her sister, S Vijayakumari, told the Press Trust of India. Share this articleShare 'The incident happened after… she complained about torture and non-payment of wages by her employer.' she said. Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised. A video has emerged on social media, allegedly showing the moments after Ms Munirathinam was attacked. Since she started working for Riyadh, Kasturi Munirathinam alleged she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised 'I pleaded with the lady not to harm me but she kicked me, punched me and cut off my arm. I want to go back home. Please help me,' she says in the video according to the Times of India. 'Kasturi's employer was angered after she apprised local officials about the harassment she was facing there, she was not even provided food,' her sister S Vijayakumari told the Press Trust of India news agency. 'When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' she said. Sushma Swaraj, India's minister for internal affairs, tweeted about the woman's plight in Saudi Arabia. 'Chopping of hand of Indian lady - We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia,' she wrote. It is thought Ms Munirathinam sought work in Saudi Arabia to help earn money for her husband and four children in India. Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup has spoken out against the attack on the Indian woman, telling the Indian Express that India had launched an investigation into the attack and will 'continue to seek justice for the victim'. 'Our embassy in Riyadh has taken up the matter with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for strict action in the matter and severe punishment for the sponsor,' he said. He said a case of attempted murder should be lodged against the sponsor 'so that he is punished, if found guilty as per law.' Read more:Assault on Indian maid by Saudi sponsor brutal, unacceptable: Sushma Swaraj - The Times of India Saudi employer chops off Indian woman’s hand, Delhi seeks action | The Indian Express Saudi Incident: Victim's family appeals central govt to facilitate her return - YouTube

Meanwhile... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3266059/Housemaid-hand-chopped-female-Saudi-Arabian-employer-complaining-authorities-tortured-deprived-food.html Housemaid has her hand chopped off by female Saudi Arabian employer after complaining to authorities she had been tortured and deprived of food Kasturi Munirathinam was working as a cleaner in Saudi city of Riyadh Her arm was cut off, allegedly by her employer after she tried to escape Indian cleaner claims she had been tortured and deprived of food By Tom Wyke for MailOnline Published: 09:39, 9 October 2015 | Updated: 15:23, 9 October 2015 3.7k shares 539 View comments An Indian housemaid had her hand hacked off allegedly by her female employer in Saudi Arabia and has complained she has been tortured whilst working in Riyadh. Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working as a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Since she started working in Riyadh, she said she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers. Scroll down for video +3 Kasturi Munirathinam, originally from the south Indian city of Chennai, had been earning £150 a month while working a cleaner for a household in the Saudi capital. Her family said that when Ms Munirathinam tried to escape, her employer decided to punish her and cut off her hand. 'When she tried to escape harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' her sister, S Vijayakumari, told the Press Trust of India. Share this articleShare 'The incident happened after… she complained about torture and non-payment of wages by her employer.' she said. Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised. A video has emerged on social media, allegedly showing the moments after Ms Munirathinam was attacked. Since she started working for Riyadh, Kasturi Munirathinam alleged she had been tortured and deliberately deprived of food by her employers Ms Munirathinam was taken to hospital in Riyadh and her condition has now reportedly stabilised 'I pleaded with the lady not to harm me but she kicked me, punched me and cut off my arm. I want to go back home. Please help me,' she says in the video according to the Times of India. 'Kasturi's employer was angered after she apprised local officials about the harassment she was facing there, she was not even provided food,' her sister S Vijayakumari told the Press Trust of India news agency. 'When she tried to escape the harassment and torture, her right hand was chopped off by the woman employer. She fell down and sustained serious spinal injuries,' she said. Sushma Swaraj, India's minister for internal affairs, tweeted about the woman's plight in Saudi Arabia. 'Chopping of hand of Indian lady - We are very much disturbed over the brutal manner in which Indian lady has been treated in Saudi Arabia,' she wrote. It is thought Ms Munirathinam sought work in Saudi Arabia to help earn money for her husband and four children in India. Indian foreign ministry spokesperson Vikas Swarup has spoken out against the attack on the Indian woman, telling the Indian Express that India had launched an investigation into the attack and will 'continue to seek justice for the victim'. 'Our embassy in Riyadh has taken up the matter with the Saudi Foreign Office and asked for strict action in the matter and severe punishment for the sponsor,' he said. He said a case of attempted murder should be lodged against the sponsor 'so that he is punished, if found guilty as per law.' Read more:Assault on Indian maid by Saudi sponsor brutal, unacceptable: Sushma Swaraj - The Times of India Saudi employer chops off Indian woman’s hand, Delhi seeks action | The Indian Express Saudi Incident: Victim's family appeals central govt to facilitate her return - YouTube

A real philosphical question. You are born to your mother and father? If it was possible to build a time machine to stop your mother and dad being together but individually they both went on to be with other partners and have children - whose child would you be a) mother, b) father and the reasons for your answer?

Exactly no will or real desire to tackle paedophiles!!! Why would a drinker implement prohibition unless he distilled & distributed the moonshine!!!

Sorry mrgg123 you've missed the point where are the anti grooming\paedophile specialist units cracking down on child rape?

http://www.dailymail...t-bear-son.html Wednesday, Sep 30th 2015 10PM 11°C 1AM 11°C 5-Day Forecast Home Top Woman who was forced into marriage at 16 was raped and beaten for 13 YEARS by her abusive husband who was angry that she hadn't given him a sonSajida, who is in her 30s, was forced into an arranged marriage aged 16 She married in Pakistan and the couple moved back to London Her husband was furious when she bore him four daughters and no son Allegedly he tried to poison her and gas her with a cooker Sajida escaped with her daughters, bringing 'shame' to her family By Sally Beck for MailOnline Published: 10:59, 30 September 2015 | Updated: 18:54, 30 September 2015 460 shares 57 View comments A woman has told how she was subjected to 13 years of violence at the hands of her own husband, who raped her, beat her and tried to poison her. Sajida, who has Pakistani heritage but lives in Manchester, was forced into marriage with her cousin when she was just 16 and her new husband was 23. Now in her 30s, Sajida was only 17 when she fell pregnant and went on to have four daughters, which angered her husband as he wished to have boys. Scroll down for video +4 Sajida, pictured wearing a disguise to protect her identity, has Pakistani heritage but lives in Manchester. She was forced into marriage when she was just 16 and her new husband was 23 The girls were not allowed to play outside or even allowed to laugh. Despite the abuse, charges against the woman's husband were dropped – something the police said was not uncommon. Speaking for the first time about her relationship, the woman, known only as Sajida – who wanted to be anonymous to protect her children – said: 'I got pregnant aged 17, but I wish I hadn't because we found out it was a girl and he wanted a boy. 'We couldn't breathe or think properly when he was around. The girls weren't allowed to laugh or giggle, they weren't allowed to play in the front garden in case boys looked at them. 'I was only allowed to leave the house to do things with the children. I wasn't allowed a social life. I was isolated from all my family and friends. 'I survived only because of my girls.' Sajida, pictured, endured over a decade of being repeatedly raped and beaten by her violent husband, and her four daughters were not allowed to play or laugh Sajida said she was only ten years old when she heard rumours she was going to be married. She said: 'Cousins started telling me but I thought it was banter, a bit of a joke. He was a 16-year-old cousin and lived in Pakistan, where my parents are from. I'd never met him or seen a photo so I just dismissed it. I only knew he was my cousin.' But the rumours persisted, with uncles, aunties and cousins all talking about it. Her immediate family said nothing until she was about to take her GCSEs. 'I was 16 when the older generation in my family told me I was going to Pakistan with my father,' she said. 'Cousins told me that I was going away and might be getting married, but my parents never said anything directly to me. I was in the middle of my GCSEs and I couldn't believe it. I thought, "No way am I getting married, they just want to take me for a holiday". He raped me, there was a lot of mental torture, there was a lot of physical violence 'I was excited to be going away, but in denial that any marriage was going to happen. I thought I would come back and finish my exams. 'I really liked history and English and I'd done work experience in the school office and at a local nursery school. I liked both and was looking forward to getting a career.' Excitement mounted as the day of the trip approached in 1996, but after she arrived and her marriage was confirmed, she began to panic. 'Everybody was busy organising the wedding. I'd never met any of these people. I thought, "Oh God, this is going ahead",' she said. 'I was told, "If you don't do it, you'll bring shame on the family." I was also told that I could go back to my studies if I listened to them.' The wedding arrangements whirled around her in a blur, her husband-to-be lurking somewhere in the background, yet to be introduced. 'I was given no choice over wedding dress, shoes, jewellery or husband. Everything was chosen for me,' she said. She describes her wedding day – when she first met her husband – as devastating, saying she 'cried the whole day' while he remained emotionless. She knew nothing about sex, but was to lose her virginity that night. 'One of his sisters told me what to expect,' she said. 'The way she said it was shocking and by the time she finished I was feeling quite scared. Sajida, pictured, describes her wedding day – when she first met her husband – as devastating, saying she 'cried the whole day' while he remained emotionless 'That night, after he'd done what he wanted to do, he left me on my own and went out somewhere. He didn't say where. I was left alone, crying and scared, wondering what had just happened.' She spent three months in Pakistan and was continually forced to have sex. She came home alone and her husband joined her three months later. From there, she was dragged deeper and deeper into a cycle of brutal abuse. 'He raped me, there was a lot of mental torture, there was a lot of physical violence,' she said. 'I had a knife held to me. Then he got this cable wire and he beat me up and I had scars all over my leg and my back. 'He tried to gas me with the cooker and tried to poison me.' After her husband beat her whilst she was pregnant with her fourth child, she finally found the courage to dial 999. Dad cried and says now he wishes he wouldn't have let this happen. But he's my father, he should have protected me Her husband was charged but Sajida was persuaded to drop the charges by family who used emotional blackmail. 'I was told that a family member with a weak heart would literally die of shame,' she said. 'There was a lot of pressure from family members who said, "Stick by him. What will the community think?"' But defiant, she found the strength to call police again two years later, after her husband threatened their children, who are now aged between 11 and 18. 'He used to say he was going to sell them off, he was going to marry them off as a lesson for getting him arrested,' she said. 'I didn't want my girls to suffer for the rest of their lives.' Sajida, who has since returned to her studies and wants to become a nurse, took out injunctions against her husband, and the only time she has seen him since the split was in court to renew injunctions and fight her ex-husband's claim for custody of the children. She also found the courage to confront her father. 'My dad was under the thumb of his family members,' she said. 'He had to do what they told him and he said he took me abroad just to please them. 'Dad cried and says now he wishes he wouldn't have let this happen. But he's my father, he should have protected me. 'I will never let anything like this happen to my girls.' Forced marriage has been illegal in the UK since 2014, but thousands of woman and girls just like Sajida, fall victim each year. Most are engaged before hitting puberty, but some girls are betrothed at birth – with frequently devastating consequences. The problem mostly affects Asian teenagers and the brave young women who say no, risk isolation, violence and even murder. Sajida appears in Channel 4's Forced Marriage Cops - Pictured (left) Detective Sergeant Nita Jhanji-Garrod and right Detective Inspector Tanya Kitchen The government's Forced Marriage Unit says that in 2014 they offered help and support to 1,267 possible forced marriage cases. But Jasvinder Sanghera, from the forced marriage victim support charity, Karma Nirvana, says that figure is not even the tip of the iceberg. The figure quoted in a Channel 4 documentary, in which her story is featured, is that 8,000 are threatened each year. There was certainly no fairytale ending for Sajida - just a spiral of worsening abuse. Detective Chief Superintendent Vanessa Jardine of Greater Manchester police, said: 'We are not seeing anything like the reality of the situation. There will be many more victims in the community.' Greater Manchester Police added: 'A forced marriage is a criminal offence and is a marriage conducted without the valid consent of one or both parties, where duress is a factor. 'Duress can include physical, sexual, emotional, and financial and psychological pressure. This will include coercion and deception to force someone into marrying. 'Forced marriages are a form of domestic abuse and are dealt with as such by the police 'We are aware that there are a number of cases going unreported and we hope to encourage more reporting by raising awareness of the issues.' Sajida tells her story in Channel 4's Forced Marriage Cops, tonight (Wednesday 30 Sept) at 10pm. Comments (57)Share what you think Newest Oldest Best rated Worst rated View all The comments below have been moderated in advance. Stukeley, Devizes, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago When was this, the year 1015? Oh no, its now, what a surprise. 35 897 Click to rate Prague girl, Prague, Czech Republic, about 8 hours ago No wife in the world wants such a husband. 16 923 Click to rate heather47, caistor, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago So the husband was so stupid that he didn't know that it is HIS sperm that determines the sex of a child. So ignorant! 10 1734 Click to rate Prague girl, Prague, Czech Republic, about 8 hours ago No wife in the world wants such a husband. 15 443 Click to rate Emma2f, london, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago Not only violent but also uneducated fool. Everybody knows men decide the gender of a person not women. 5 1033 Click to rate brummie 1, birmingham, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago is this backward thinking way of live not illegal 11 615 Click to rate PositivePolly, London, about 8 hours ago Stupid man, the sperm determines the sex of the baby.... Scumbag 7 1084 Click to rate retraitee, reynès, France, about 8 hours ago Hasn't anybody explained to him that it's actualy HIS fault for only having daughters? Though I doubt he'd accept that. 5 796 Click to rate JohnB11, Birmingham, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago There is no place for sex selection in the UK. Her husband needs to find a country where his views are acceptable.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3254581/Woman-forced-marriage-suffers-13-years-violence-hands-husband-raped-beat-didn-t-bear-son.html Wednesday, Sep 30th 2015 10PM 11°C 1AM 11°C 5-Day Forecast Home Top Woman who was forced into marriage at 16 was raped and beaten for 13 YEARS by her abusive husband who was angry that she hadn't given him a sonSajida, who is in her 30s, was forced into an arranged marriage aged 16 She married in Pakistan and the couple moved back to London Her husband was furious when she bore him four daughters and no son Allegedly he tried to poison her and gas her with a cooker Sajida escaped with her daughters, bringing 'shame' to her family By Sally Beck for MailOnline Published: 10:59, 30 September 2015 | Updated: 18:54, 30 September 2015 460 shares 57 View comments A woman has told how she was subjected to 13 years of violence at the hands of her own husband, who raped her, beat her and tried to poison her. Sajida, who has Pakistani heritage but lives in Manchester, was forced into marriage with her cousin when she was just 16 and her new husband was 23. Now in her 30s, Sajida was only 17 when she fell pregnant and went on to have four daughters, which angered her husband as he wished to have boys. Scroll down for video +4 Sajida, pictured wearing a disguise to protect her identity, has Pakistani heritage but lives in Manchester. She was forced into marriage when she was just 16 and her new husband was 23 The girls were not allowed to play outside or even allowed to laugh. Despite the abuse, charges against the woman's husband were dropped – something the police said was not uncommon. Speaking for the first time about her relationship, the woman, known only as Sajida – who wanted to be anonymous to protect her children – said: 'I got pregnant aged 17, but I wish I hadn't because we found out it was a girl and he wanted a boy. 'We couldn't breathe or think properly when he was around. The girls weren't allowed to laugh or giggle, they weren't allowed to play in the front garden in case boys looked at them. 'I was only allowed to leave the house to do things with the children. I wasn't allowed a social life. I was isolated from all my family and friends. 'I survived only because of my girls.' Sajida, pictured, endured over a decade of being repeatedly raped and beaten by her violent husband, and her four daughters were not allowed to play or laugh Sajida said she was only ten years old when she heard rumours she was going to be married. She said: 'Cousins started telling me but I thought it was banter, a bit of a joke. He was a 16-year-old cousin and lived in Pakistan, where my parents are from. I'd never met him or seen a photo so I just dismissed it. I only knew he was my cousin.' But the rumours persisted, with uncles, aunties and cousins all talking about it. Her immediate family said nothing until she was about to take her GCSEs. 'I was 16 when the older generation in my family told me I was going to Pakistan with my father,' she said. 'Cousins told me that I was going away and might be getting married, but my parents never said anything directly to me. I was in the middle of my GCSEs and I couldn't believe it. I thought, "No way am I getting married, they just want to take me for a holiday". He raped me, there was a lot of mental torture, there was a lot of physical violence 'I was excited to be going away, but in denial that any marriage was going to happen. I thought I would come back and finish my exams. 'I really liked history and English and I'd done work experience in the school office and at a local nursery school. I liked both and was looking forward to getting a career.' Excitement mounted as the day of the trip approached in 1996, but after she arrived and her marriage was confirmed, she began to panic. 'Everybody was busy organising the wedding. I'd never met any of these people. I thought, "Oh God, this is going ahead",' she said. 'I was told, "If you don't do it, you'll bring shame on the family." I was also told that I could go back to my studies if I listened to them.' The wedding arrangements whirled around her in a blur, her husband-to-be lurking somewhere in the background, yet to be introduced. 'I was given no choice over wedding dress, shoes, jewellery or husband. Everything was chosen for me,' she said. She describes her wedding day – when she first met her husband – as devastating, saying she 'cried the whole day' while he remained emotionless. She knew nothing about sex, but was to lose her virginity that night. 'One of his sisters told me what to expect,' she said. 'The way she said it was shocking and by the time she finished I was feeling quite scared. Sajida, pictured, describes her wedding day – when she first met her husband – as devastating, saying she 'cried the whole day' while he remained emotionless 'That night, after he'd done what he wanted to do, he left me on my own and went out somewhere. He didn't say where. I was left alone, crying and scared, wondering what had just happened.' She spent three months in Pakistan and was continually forced to have sex. She came home alone and her husband joined her three months later. From there, she was dragged deeper and deeper into a cycle of brutal abuse. 'He raped me, there was a lot of mental torture, there was a lot of physical violence,' she said. 'I had a knife held to me. Then he got this cable wire and he beat me up and I had scars all over my leg and my back. 'He tried to gas me with the cooker and tried to poison me.' After her husband beat her whilst she was pregnant with her fourth child, she finally found the courage to dial 999. Dad cried and says now he wishes he wouldn't have let this happen. But he's my father, he should have protected me Her husband was charged but Sajida was persuaded to drop the charges by family who used emotional blackmail. 'I was told that a family member with a weak heart would literally die of shame,' she said. 'There was a lot of pressure from family members who said, "Stick by him. What will the community think?"' But defiant, she found the strength to call police again two years later, after her husband threatened their children, who are now aged between 11 and 18. 'He used to say he was going to sell them off, he was going to marry them off as a lesson for getting him arrested,' she said. 'I didn't want my girls to suffer for the rest of their lives.' Sajida, who has since returned to her studies and wants to become a nurse, took out injunctions against her husband, and the only time she has seen him since the split was in court to renew injunctions and fight her ex-husband's claim for custody of the children. She also found the courage to confront her father. 'My dad was under the thumb of his family members,' she said. 'He had to do what they told him and he said he took me abroad just to please them. 'Dad cried and says now he wishes he wouldn't have let this happen. But he's my father, he should have protected me. 'I will never let anything like this happen to my girls.' Forced marriage has been illegal in the UK since 2014, but thousands of woman and girls just like Sajida, fall victim each year. Most are engaged before hitting puberty, but some girls are betrothed at birth – with frequently devastating consequences. The problem mostly affects Asian teenagers and the brave young women who say no, risk isolation, violence and even murder. Sajida appears in Channel 4's Forced Marriage Cops - Pictured (left) Detective Sergeant Nita Jhanji-Garrod and right Detective Inspector Tanya Kitchen The government's Forced Marriage Unit says that in 2014 they offered help and support to 1,267 possible forced marriage cases. But Jasvinder Sanghera, from the forced marriage victim support charity, Karma Nirvana, says that figure is not even the tip of the iceberg. The figure quoted in a Channel 4 documentary, in which her story is featured, is that 8,000 are threatened each year. There was certainly no fairytale ending for Sajida - just a spiral of worsening abuse. Detective Chief Superintendent Vanessa Jardine of Greater Manchester police, said: 'We are not seeing anything like the reality of the situation. There will be many more victims in the community.' Greater Manchester Police added: 'A forced marriage is a criminal offence and is a marriage conducted without the valid consent of one or both parties, where duress is a factor. 'Duress can include physical, sexual, emotional, and financial and psychological pressure. This will include coercion and deception to force someone into marrying. 'Forced marriages are a form of domestic abuse and are dealt with as such by the police 'We are aware that there are a number of cases going unreported and we hope to encourage more reporting by raising awareness of the issues.' Sajida tells her story in Channel 4's Forced Marriage Cops, tonight (Wednesday 30 Sept) at 10pm. Comments (57)Share what you think Newest Oldest Best rated Worst rated View all The comments below have been moderated in advance. Stukeley, Devizes, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago When was this, the year 1015? Oh no, its now, what a surprise. 35 897 Click to rate Prague girl, Prague, Czech Republic, about 8 hours ago No wife in the world wants such a husband. 16 923 Click to rate heather47, caistor, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago So the husband was so stupid that he didn't know that it is HIS sperm that determines the sex of a child. So ignorant! 10 1734 Click to rate Prague girl, Prague, Czech Republic, about 8 hours ago No wife in the world wants such a husband. 15 443 Click to rate Emma2f, london, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago Not only violent but also uneducated fool. Everybody knows men decide the gender of a person not women. 5 1033 Click to rate brummie 1, birmingham, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago is this backward thinking way of live not illegal 11 615 Click to rate PositivePolly, London, about 8 hours ago Stupid man, the sperm determines the sex of the baby.... Scumbag 7 1084 Click to rate retraitee, reynès, France, about 8 hours ago Hasn't anybody explained to him that it's actualy HIS fault for only having daughters? Though I doubt he'd accept that. 5 796 Click to rate JohnB11, Birmingham, United Kingdom, about 8 hours ago There is no place for sex selection in the UK. Her husband needs to find a country where his views are acceptable.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3251787/Muslim-father-strangled-daughter-19-death-honour-killing-caught-stealing-condoms-sex-forbidden-boyfriend-Germany.html Monday, Sep 28th 2015 10PM 11°C 1AM 11°C 5-Day Forecast Home Top Muslim father strangled daughter, 19, to death in 'honour killing' after she was caught stealing condoms for sex with her forbidden boyfriend in GermanyAsadullah Khan , 51, said he killed his daughter Lareeb for bringing 'dishonour' on the family with her love for a boy he didn't approve of Khan and his wife Shazia, originally from Pakistan, are on trial for murder The couple wed in an arranged marriage and he wanted the same for her He admits strangling his daughter but his wife claims she couldn't stop him By Allan Hall In Berlin for MailOnline Published: 10:14, 28 September 2015 | Updated: 12:03, 28 September 2015 10k shares 515 View comments A Muslim man has confessed to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death with his bare hands after learning from police she had been caught shoplifting condoms to have sex with her forbidden boyfriend. Asadullah Khan and his wife Shazia then dressed dead daughter Lareeb, a dental technician, in her clothes. They then wheeled her in a wheelchair from their high-rise apartment to the family car, drove to a secluded embankment in their home city of Darmstadt in Germany, and tipped the corpse down it. +7 A court heard Lareeb Khan stayed away from the home for several nights in a row and stopped wearing her headscarf. Her family then got a letter from the police saying she had been caught trying to steal condoms +7 Muslim Asadullah Khan has confessed to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death with his bare hands after learning from police she had been caught shoplifting condoms to have sex with her forbidden boyfriend +7 Khan, 51, has admitted the killing because in his eyes she had brought 'dishonour' on the family with her love for a boy he didn't approve of +7 Khan and his wife, originally from Pakistan, are on trial for murder at the State Court in Darmstadt Khan, 51, with tears streaming down his face, admitted the killing because in his eyes she had brought 'dishonour' on the family with her love for a boy he didn't approve of. He and his wife were wed in an arranged marriage and he wanted the same for her. RELATED ARTICLESPrevious 1 Next ISIS shuts PLAYGROUNDS in Syria because they were being used... Campaigners call for Ofsted inspectors to be trained to... Share this articleShare Khan and his wife, originally from Pakistan, are on trial for murder at the State Court in Darmstadt. Shazia, 41, described how she was a downtrodden woman, totally in the thrall of her husband, and unable to save her daughter. The court heard how the parents sent Lareeb's sister Nida, 14, to a relative on the evening of the murder in January this year. Nida gave evidence against both her parents, saying her mother was as strict as their father, often striking both of them. The mother held out her arms to Nida when she appeared in court on Friday but Nida refused to acknowledge her. Nida said: 'My Mama was not suppressed, she could do what she wanted. She used to hit me with a stick. 'We were never allowed to talk about her boyfriend. My father used to say my sister should be forcibly married in Pakistan.' +7 +7 The court heard that he and his wife were wed in an arranged marriage and he wanted the same for her +7 The couple are said to have wheeled her in a wheelchair from their high-rise apartment to the family car, drove to a secluded embankment in their home city of Darmstadt in Germany, and tipped the corpse down it The court heard Nida is now in therapy and has nothing more to do with her parents. Shazia said that on the night of the murder Lareeb had quarelled again with her father and hit him. He later crept into her room as she slept, knelt astride her and strangled her. 'I couldn't stop him,' the mother said in a statement read by her lawyer. 'I have rheumatism and didn't have the strength to fight him off. I wanted to scream, but I couldn't. 'Lareeb stayed away from the home for several nights in a row and stopped wearing the headscarf. One day we received a letter from the police saying she had been caught trying to steal condoms. 'At this point it became clear that there was sexual contact. When I showed the letter to my husband he snapped.' Killer Asadullah, who speaks no German, said he 'loved' his daughter. The trial continues.

Are you serious? Next you will be saying Bapu Surat Singh Ji and Bhai Mohan Singh Ji are looking for confrontation? These Sikhs are undertaking the tenents commanded by WaheGuru which the vast majority of Sikhs (I'm including myself) are failing in. I have no doubt even Jagraj Singh, Bapu Surat Singh, Mohan Singh are not perfect but like pure gold or silver you cannot wear use\wear the gold until you add an impurity such are the wonders of WaheGuru. I rarely donate to a Gurdwara now, I donate to Basics of Sikhi, SAS, Kalgidhar Society etc. and try to attend their seminars where possible to be in mind, body & spirit. The Spirit of the Khalsa lives on with the likes of Jagraj Singh, Bapu Surat Singh, Mohan Singh and so many countless men,women & children doing the Sewa of WaheGuru mostly anonymously!!!

http://www.meforum.org/3750/islam-second-crisis MEF Research and Writing Islam's Second Crisis: The troubles to comeby Mark Durie markdurie.com February 13, 2014 In What Went Wrong, Bernard Lewis charted the decline of Islam in the modern era and the resulting theological crisis for the Muslim world. Now Islam is going through a second crisis, caused by the repeated failures of revivalist responses to the first crisis. This second crisis, combined with the cumulative effect of the first crisis, which remains unresolved, will lead to a long drawn-out period of political and social instability for Muslim societies. The first millennium of Islam was a period of expansion through conquest. However for five centuries from around 1500, Western powers were pushing back Islamic rule. There were numerous landmarks of the ascendancy of the West (which includes Russia), such as: the conquest of Goa in India by the Portuguese in 1510; the liberation of Christian Ethiopia in 1543 with the aid of the Portuguese soldiers; the defeat of the Ottomans at the gates of Vienna in 1683 and the ensuing liberation of Hungary and Transylvania; Napoleon's conquest of Egypt in 1798; the USA-Barbary State Wars of 1801-1815, which put an end to tribute payments by the US to the north African states to prevent piracy and the enslavement of US citizens; a long series of defeats for the Ottomans in Russo-Turkish wars stretching across four centuries and culminating in the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish war, which led to the independence of Romania, Serbia, Montenegro and Bulgaria; the overthrow of Muslim principalities in Southeast Asia by the Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch and English; the final destruction of Mughal rule in India at the hands by the British in 1857; the defeat and dismantling of the Ottoman Empire as a result of WWI; and finally, the establishment of the modern state of Israel in 1948, in territory formerly ruled by Islam, which was considered by many Muslims to be the crowning humiliation in this long line of defeats. We are not just talking about Western colonialism. Some of the victories over Muslim principalities involved the occupation or colonisation of primarily Muslim lands, but many involved the liberation of non-Muslim peoples from the yoke of Muslim rule, such as in Ethiopia, Hungary and India, and some were defensive responses to Islamic aggression, such as the defeat of the Ottomans at the gates of Vienna. While the external borders of Islam kept shrinking, its position of dominance within its own borders was also being challenged. During this same period there were in many places improvements in the conditions experienced by non-Muslims under Islamic rule – a weakening of the dhimmi system – which communicated to Muslims an impression of their own faith's loss of dominance and its loss of 'success'. A landmark in this long process was the Paris Peace Treaty of 1856, which settled the Crimean War. As part of this settlement the Ottomans were compelled to grant equal rights to Christians throughout their empire. The gradual process of improvement of conditions for Christians and Jews under Islam was regretted by Muslim scholars, who saw it as evidence of Islam's decline. For example a request for a fatwa from a Egyptian Muslim judge in 1772 lamented the 'deplorable innovations' of Christians and Jews, who were daring to make themselves equal to Muslims by their manner of dress and behavior, all in violation of Islamic law. In a similar vein, the Baghdad Quranic commentator Al-Alusi complained that non-Muslims in Syria during the first half of the 19th century were being permitted to make annual tribute payments by means of an agent, thus escaping the personal ritual degradations prescribed by Islamic law. He concluded: "All this is caused by the weakness of Islam." Why would Islam's lack of dominance be evidence of weakness? Islamic doctrine promises falah 'success' to the religion's followers, symbolized by the daily call to prayer which rings out from minarets: 'come to success, come to success'. The success promised by Islam has always been understood to be both spiritual and material: conquest and rule this life, and paradise in the next. The Qur'an states that Allah has sent Muhammad "with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to triumph over all (other) religions" (Sura 48:28). Islam's theology of success meant that the global failure of Islamic armies and states at the hands of 'Christian' states constituted a profound spiritual challenge to Islam's core claims. Just as Muslim scholars had always pointed to the military victories of Islam as proof of its divine authority, this litany of defeats testified to its failure as the religion of the successful ones. The urgency of the question 'What went wrong?' drove the Islamic revival, an interconnected network of renewal movements which have as their central tenet that Muslims will once again be 'successful' – achieving political and military domination over non-Muslims – if they are truly devoted to Allah and implement Islamic laws faithfully. These are reformation movements in the original (medieval) sense of the Latin word reformatio, for they seek to restore Islam to its former glory by returning to first principles. Some of the main formative strands of Islamic revivalism have been: the Wahhabi movement which originated in the 18th century; the Deobandi movement in India and Pakistan which dates from 1866; Jamaat e-Islami, which was founded 1941 in India; the Muslim Brotherhood, founded 1928; and the Iranian Revolution of 1979. Out of these have come a myriad of offshoots and branches such as the Taliban (from the Deobandi movement); Al Qaida (a product of the ideology of Muslim Brotherhood theologian Said Qutb); the missionary movement Tablighi Jamaat; and Hizb Ut-Tahrir. Even the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, the 'United Nations' of the Muslim world, is a revivalist organization: this is reflected in its Charter which states that it exists "to work for revitalizing Islam's pioneering role in the world", a euphemism for reestablishing Islam's dominant place in world affairs. In essence, Islamic revivalist movements aim to restore the greatness of Islam and make it 'successful' again. This hope is embodied, for example, in the Muslim Brotherhood's slogan "Islam is the solution". This implies that when Islam is truly implemented all the problems human beings face – such as poverty, lack of education, corruption, and injustice – will be solved. The flip-side of this slogan is the thesis that all the problems of the Muslim world have been caused through want of genuine Islamic observance: Allah allowed his people to fall into disarray because they were not faithful in obeying his laws. The correction to this spiritual problem should therefore be more sharia compliance. This is the reason why headscarves and burqas have been appearing on Muslim women's heads with increasing frequency all around the world. For a time it appeared to many Muslims that the revivalist program was working. The Iranian Islamic revolution, and the later victory of jihadis in Afghanistan and the break-up of the Soviet Union was considered to be evidence of the success of the revivalist program. This was the certainly view of the translator of Sheikh Abdullah Azzam's jihadi tract Join the Caravan: "The struggle, which he [sheikh Azzam] stood for, continues, despite the enemies of Islam. 'They seek to extinguish the light of Allah by their mouths. But Allah refuses save to perfect His light, even if the Disbelievers are averse. It is He who has sent His messenger with the guidance and the true religion, in order that He may make it prevail over all religions, even if the pagans are averse.' [Qur'an, 9:32-33] Since the book was written, the Soviets have been expelled from Afghanistan, by Allah's grace, and the entire Soviet Union has disintegrated." Utopian claims are risky, because they open up the possibility for even greater failure, and amplified cognitive dissonance as the gap between one's faith and reality widens. The first crisis of Islam was the rise of West through superior technological, economic and military prowess. The second crisis is the failure of Islamic revivalism as a response to the first crisis. The second crisis could prove even more painful and profound in its effects on Islam than the first. The manifestations of revivalism's failures are as diverse as the Islamist movements which generated them. One could point to: the atrocities and backwardness of the Taliban; the corruption and cruelty after the 1979 Iranian Revolution; the failure of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to govern for the benefit of the Egyptian people, leading to a wildly popular military coup in 2013; the present-day economic collapse of Turkey under big-talking Islamist Prime Minister Erdogan; the genocidal campaigns of Khartoum's military campaigns against its own citizens, causing more than a million casualties; and the ongoing Iraqi and Syrian jihad-driven bloodbaths. Everywhere one looks there are good reasons for Muslims to question the Islamic revivalist creed. The outcomes of more than two centuries of theological fervor are not looking good. Muslim states are not realizing the utopian goals set by these movements. Indeed the opposite is the case: again and again, wherever revivalist movements have gained the ascendancy, human misery has only increased. Too many Muslim states continue to be models of poverty and economic failure, despite all those female heads being covered up. One inevitable consequence of this trend is disenchantment with Islam, and a growing sense of alienation from the religion. The manifest failure of the revivalist creed creates a sense of anxiety that Islam is under threat, not from the infidel West, but from reputational damage caused by the revivalists themselves. It is a case of the cure being worse than the disease. Recently General Sisi has been hailed by the population of Egypt, not merely as a liberator of the nation from the ravages of Muslim Brotherhood rule, but as the Savior of Islam: he is now a man on a mission is to save the religion. In a recent speech Sisi called for a 'new vision and modern, comprehensive understanding of the religion of Islam'. Sisi would rescue Islam's reputation, by improving 'the image of this religion in front of the world, after Islam has been for decades convicted of violence and destruction around the world, due to the crimes falsely committed in the name of Islam'. By 'crimes' Sisi no doubt has in mind the prosecution of former President Morsi now underway in the Egyptian courts. Among other charges, Morsi is alleged to have been in league with Al-Qaida. Sisi's statement represents a rejection of Islamic revivalism, because at the core of all revivalist movements is a desire to reinstate and vindicate the institution of jihad, as a symbol and a means of Islam's longer-for 'success'. Thus the eminent Deobandi Jurist Muhammad T. Usmani wrote in Islam and Modernism: "Aggressive Jehad is lawful even today... Its justification cannot be veiled … we should venerate ... this expansionism with complete self-confidence". While Sisi's comments imply a concern for the image of Islam 'in front of the world' – i.e. in the eyes of all, including non-Muslims – the deeper, more visceral angst will be about whether Muslims will come to doubt their own faith. This anxiety is not just theoretical. Christian aid workers in the Middle East have recently been reporting thousands of Muslim Syrian refugees who are leaving Islam to embrace the Christian faith. There was a remarkable growth of conversions to Christianity among Algerians in the wake of the Islamist regime in the earlier 1990's. There are also many reports of explosive church growth in Iran, in a context of declining mosque attendance and widespread disillusionment with Islam among young Iranians. It seems that the more intensely a nation is shaped by Islamist revivalism or radical jihad, the more likely it is that significant numbers of Muslims will want to leave Islam. This is not surprising: one cannot promise utopia and fail to deliver without risking reputational damage to Islam itself. Another symptom of decline in confidence in Islam is the plummeting birthrates in Islamic states, no least of all in Iran. David Goldman has pointed out that lower birthrates tend to be correlated with loss of confidence and decline in faith: "A lack of desire for children is typically a symptom of civilizational decline." Paradoxically, the revivalist movements have sought to promote the success of Islam but their actual trajectory provides strong evidence against Islam's ability to solve the problems of living well in this world. This issue arose in an unusual recent interview on Egyptian television of a burqa-clad woman who declared her intention to leave Islam and become a Christian. In the interview the woman rejects Islam on the grounds that if Islam was a valid faith, its followers would not be killing each other: "There is no (true) Islam, because (genuine) Muslims do not kill (other) Muslim(s), brothers do not kill their brothers, brothers do not send people from Hamas or Gaza to bomb us and kill us here; brothers do not kill their brothers in the police; brothers do not kill their brothers in the army." In essence this woman is agreeing with General Sisi's observation that some Muslism are causing Islam to be 'convicted' of violence. There are reasons to doubt the authenticity of this interview: it could well be anti-Brotherhood propaganda, effectively saying "Look what a mess the Brotherhood have created: it is so bad that now Muslims are even thinking of leaving Islam because of all the violence and killing being done by Muslims." Nevertheless, even if this interview is propaganda – and some of what the woman says does sound quite peculiar – what is important is that the interview reflects a growing desire to give air space to the sense of disenchantment caused by the violent acts of the revivalists. Even as propaganda – if that is what this video is – it points to public anxiety about Islam being judged and found wanting because of the deeds of the reformers. In the first part of the 20th century, the Dutch Arabist C. Snouck Hurgronje predicted that Islam would follow the path of Christianity in Europe, and become toothless. Muslims, he argued, would relegate Islam to the domain of personal piety, eschatology and the next life. He regarded the marginalization of Islamic practice – i.e. of sharia law – as inevitable, under the dominance of European values. He wrote in The Achehnese, "The … laws and institutions of Islam will share the same fate [as the laws of the Bible] … their study will gradually take the place of their practice. … Such is our prediction as to the future of Islam, which we utter with all the more confidence as symptoms of its realization have already appeared." The opposite has proved to be true. The trend Snouck Hurgonje saw proved illusory and short-lived: in the post-colonial area, revivalist movements gathered force and credibility among Muslims the world over, until they became the dominant theological trend of twentieth century Islam. It is telling that Snouck Hurgonje completely underestimated the Wahhabi movement when he wrote: "The Wahhabite movement, which set Arabia in a tumult on the threshold of the nineteenth century … was subdued by Mohammad Ali and Wahhabitism has since been confined to an insignificant sect…" Confidence in Islam is now being punctured as the bitter fruits of violent Islamist revolutions become more apparent. Snouck Hugronje also observed that "All uniformity of public and domestic life that prevails among Mohammedans of difference races… owes its origin to external force. The foreign missionaries of Islam were her fighting men, and her internal propaganda was the work of her police." While force may have worked in the past, it is not working as well today. In the modern era, with mobile phones and ready access to information via the internet, the attempt to impose conformity based upon the use of force is more likely to result in disillusionment. Today people know better and can find out information to help them choose what to believe. Islamic revivalist groups are being convicted by Muslim public opinion of damaging the reputation of Islam itself, and this can only lead to further spiritual disorietation among Muslim populations. The first crisis of Islam led to such far-reaching effects, from the re-Islamicization of Muslim communities around the globe, to the 9-11 atrocity. The second crisis of Islam will also have a far-reaching impact no less profound in its effects. For a long time revivalist movements have offered the only serious Islamic theological response to the first crisis of Islam. They were the only dog on the street. Now that this second crisis is unfolding and revealing its bitter fruit to the Muslim world, the manifest failure of Islamic revivalism means that there is no remaining theological safe-haven left where Islam can hide. The spiritual disorientation caused by revivalist movements, which only bring conflict and death instead of the promised utopia, will increasingly lead some Muslims to agree with the Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders, that 'Islam is the problem'. While some will welcome this development, it will almost certainly lead to increasing political and social destabilization of Muslim societies, including aggressive backlash reactions in the form of attempts to shore up Islam's credibility. Communism, another utopian ideology, was also discredited due to its many abject failures, from Stalin to Pol Pot, but this did not prevent some from remaining true believers, even to this day. The Australian Imams Council, in response to reports of under-age marriages among Australian Muslims, recently stated "any religion ... should not be held accountable for violations by its followers." Yet this is the nub of the matter and a naming of an anxiety gripping the Muslim world: Muslims will hold Islam accountable when Islamic revivalists promise utopia but deliver chaos and human rights abuses. The Iranian nuclear threat is serious, not only because of traditional Shi'ite infidel hatred, but also because Iran's leaders are undoubtedly aware that the hold of Islam upon ordinary Iranians is slipping away. Spiritually, the revolution has failed. A nuclear bomb could be deployed as a desperate ploy to shore up Islam's credibility. It is the unpredictability of such 'backlash' reactions to the decline of Islam that is particularly concerning in the times ahead. The religion of Islam has long been regarded by Muslims as a prestigious brand, a symbol of stability in Islamic politics. Thus politicians would be obliged to advertize their Islamic credentials. If Islam itself loses credibility– which is already happening – a spiritual vacuum of considerable proportions will be created. How this vacuum is filled will be difficult to predict, but what we can be sure of is that revivalism and the revivalists will not go quietly. Fasten your seat-belts: the world will be in for quite a ride in the years to come, as Muslims – who constitute around a quarter of the world's population – struggle to make theological sense of the trashing of their religion's utopian vision. It is one thing to blame the infidels for this – or the proxy tyrants which revivalists claim the West has foisted on the Muslim world – what is more threatening by far is the damage being done to Islam's name by revivalist Muslims themselves. Dr. Mark Durie is a theologian, human rights activist, Anglican pastor, a Shillman-Ginsburg Writing Fellow at the Middle East Forum, and Adjunct Research Fellow of the Centre for the Study of Islam and Other Faiths at Melbourne School of Theology.

http://www.ibnzura.com/answer.php?lang=en&id=91002&q=Is_the_Muslim_population_shrinking? ■ Is the Muslim population shrinking? For many years, Muslims claimed that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Since a few years, statistics show that the numbers of Muslims will be much lower. But the Muslim population is still growing. The world population will shrink around the year 2100 according to the result of the United Nations predictions and Pew [1][2]. World population and Muslim population during in billions from 2000-2015 and predictions from 2015-2100 with shrinking point for world population and Muslims in the year 2100. Sources: UN and Pew. The Muslim population is limited to a maximum of 35% of the world population according to the most optimistic available study [2]. So the number of Muslims will also shrink after the year 2100. For a comparision of the Muslim and Christian population, see related questions below. Such a study has a lot of limitations and uncertainties and therefore it is possible that the Muslim population will shrink before 2100. 1. Population explosion of Muslims is over Birth rate of Muslims is going below Jewish and Christian level and this means the end of Islam in future. Islam is still growing coming decades. However, the growth is because of birth rate, and better life expectancy in Muslim countries. Islam is not able to compensate losses by conversions. Eberstadt, a demographer from the respected American Enterprise Institute (AEI) discovered a sharp decline in birth rate under Muslims [3]: - Birth rate 49 Muslim countries with Muslim-majority: -40% - Birth rate worldwide average: -33% That means that the Muslim population is decreasing both relative and absolute. Muslim growth rate will decrease from 1.9 today to 1.5 in 2020 to 0.7 in 2050 where 2.1 is necessary to be stable. In Iran, Muslim birth decrease is one of the greatest in human history. Many other Muslim countries have very high birth decrease of 60%, including Oman, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Bangladesh, Tunisia, Libya, Albania, Qatar and Kuwait. Each Muslim woman today is having 2.6 less babies than her mother. This decline is faster than the rest of the world [4]. 2. Marriage stability under Muslims is over Marriage is also less popular under Muslims. Although marriage rates in the Arab world today are still higher than worldwide average, the trend is that they are going fast to worldwide average. However the speed is much faster than what we have seen in Europe. Because today in many ways the unpopularity of marriage has reached that of Europe in 1990, it is expected that the Muslim marriage popularity will go under worldwide average. This is another indication that Muslim population will decrease in near future. 3. Muslim population in near future United Nations (UN) predictions for Yemen in 2050 changed from 102 million to 62 million inhabitants, which is a correction of 40%, because it was 102 million. Muslim population in Lebanon will grow till 2023, then it will shrink indefinitely afterwards. In general the Muslim population will grow till before 2030, and then it will shrink. Islam is not able to grow by conversion, as in Christianity. According to sociological and demographical survey of American Muslims by the respected Muslim sociologist Dr. Ilyas Ba-Yunus, 75% of New Muslim converts in the United States leave Islam within a 3 years. 4. Conclusion Anyone can observe the birth rate statistics that Muslim population is no longer growing in an explosive way, but that the present trend predicts a decrease of the number of Muslims. Muslim claims of a worldwide Muslim majority are over. Notes 1. United Nations, Department of Economic and Social Affairs, World Population Prospects: The 2012 Revision (Retrieved May 13, 2015). 2. Conrad Hackett et al, PewResearchCenter, The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050, p. 187 (Full Report, retrieved May 9, 2015). 3. Nicholas Eberstadt, Fertility Decline in the Muslim World: A Veritable Sea-Change, Still Curiously Unnoticed, 2012. 4. Nicholas Eberstadt and Apoorva Shah, Fertility Decline in the Muslim World, in: Policy Review, Hoover Institution Stanford University, June 1, 2012. Related questions: ■ Is Islam a dying religion? ■ More Muslims than Christians in future? 

WGJK WGJKF On Mondays at 8pm UK time I will be setting aside roughly 10 minutes praying for one specific thing and that is the strengthening and growth of the Khalsa spirit throughout the world, please join me. At a later time i will be adding another date and time to sync in with India and other parts of the world.