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  1. Listen, you illterate <banned word filter activated>: I've already stated how, in the past, my grandfathers and fathers before him regularly took opium in order to work the fields and ward off malaria. That doesn't mean I would be justified in following the 'tradition' of my family in this day and age. If I did....I would be a low down dirty filthy druggie scum just like you intoxicant supporting pretend sikhs. That was then and this is now......now there are medicines that do the job. In the past, my Sikh forefathers pissed on each other's wounds when cut in battles. But that doesn't mean I can say it is my glorious tradition to piss on my fellow man. Now, there are antiseptics that do the job. So......just what planet do you dirty druggie wasters live on where no pain-killer exists and only the cannabis drug will do the trick ?
  2. You are very much mistaken. You're criticising me for using 'words' against you sikhs that love taking the drugs and in her example love pushing/dealing the drugs but I think at this point all of you filthy drugie scum should sit back and remember this simple fact: In the whole world, bar one or two countries, you so called 'Sikhs' here that love the cannabis, will not only be arrested and charged with a criminal offence for it, but, in most countries you will have your liberty taken away with a prison sentence and in many countries, such as Singapore, it is an offence deemed immoral enough to carry the death sentence !!!!!! And yet you're complaining about my mere 'words' against you junkie druggie scum ? Trust me, there are no words low enough to describe you that have sunk so low that you not only take intoxicants whilst wearing the Guru's clothes you actually justify it by trying to incorporate it into Sikhi. There are no words low enough to describe you people.
  3. Well now, this thread pretty much sums up the dire straits that the young 'Gursikhs' of the UK are in and pretty much sums up why many non-religious Sikhs in the UK see the 'amritdharis' as immoral and morally corrupt. It shows how all we fathers and mothers need to keep our children well away from a very large proportion of those in the UK wearing the garb of our Guru, dressing like him, pretending to be like him, but with all the morals and ethics of a common criminal from the council estate. The thread has shown how an extremely large percentage are drug takers. Now, as the above proves, we have our fair share of dealers and pushers amongst them too. Immoral, low down filthy dirty morally bankrupt scum, every last one of them. All you good Sikhs....you true Sikhs... need to ensure you keep your children well away from their toxic presence. None of it should be all that surprising to anyone though.....I mean we had enough pieces of the jigsaw to make a clear picture. Take the above for example: As a teenage girl she ran off with her black brazilian boyfriend so should we really be all that surprised to find out now that she's also a bit of a massive fan of the ganga.......is partial to the weed. Happy days for her of course because in the present kaljug environment both her and her man can enjoy their beloved marijuana actually in the name of 'Sikhi'. Just be careful of who that man or woman wearing a dastar and kirpan sitting next to you in the Gurdwara really is. As this thread has demonstrated, an extremely large proportion of them are filthy druggie scum from filthy druggie families.
  4. For someone who's been "reading jagsaw's comments for a while now on this forum" you obviously have the reading skills of an amazonian pygmy on acid. If you knew how to read, you will have noticed that I am this forum's most vocal critic of NKJ and see them as causing obscene long term damage to Sikhi. My grandfather...his father before him....and his father before him, as farmers in Punjab, regularly took opium. Not for the nasha, but because it "helped" them work the fields and stay awake. Thats "tradition" in eactly the same way you talk about the nihung's "tradition". The obvious difference of course comes with the use of the word 'work' because, as the whole of Punjab knows, if there's one thing that brings out an allergic reaction in a nihung it is the thought of doing actual work. Anyway, I'm not going to sit here and condone my fathers' use of opium in the name of 'tradition'. Tradition, 9 times out of 10, means bad things. Tradition is killing your unborn daughter.....tradition is asking for and accepting dowries.....tradition is performing hindu rituals. So lets examine the wonderful 'traditions' of the nihungs. Lets eamine their ways: This last week, 200,000 of them had gathered in Anandpur where they were throwing hindu holi colours at each other. Am I supposed to respect their 'tradition' or am I supposed to respect the verses in Gurbani where Guru ji states the futility of throwing colours on that day and how our tenth master ordered Singhs not to indulge in such practices ? 200,000 of them high as a kite pretending to be battle ready. But you tell me how a man with any cannabis in his body system could possibly partake in the Sikh art of warfare which requires 100% control of the senses, time awareness and hand-eye co-ordination ? This, in turn, explains why, while they claim to be battle ready, they have consistently failed to stand up for the panth and fight in the last 50 years. In the last 30 years Indians have gone on genocida massacre and rape sprees against us and the police has, according to international human rights groups, openly murdered a quarter of a million of us. Meanwhile, the junkie nihungs have been busy getting high and throwing hindu colours at each other like gay demented pansies still pretending to be 'ready for battle'. Talk to any Sikh in Punjab and 99.9% of them will tell you that the nihungs are the lazy drug addicts who become nihungs because they are afraid of real work and this nihung lifestyle gives them an opportunity to freely indulge their drug addictions. Our Guru ji, has been as clear as clear can be that a Sikh should never take any intoxicants. Only a mentally ill mental inpatient of a facility catering for the mentally ill with a big sign on the front saying 'Drop off your mentally ill here' would argue that bhang does not intoxicate the mind. Lets compare you junkie drug addict sorry excuses for 'Singhs' then, to a true chardi kala Singh of Sri Gobnd Singh Ji.........a man forever ready for battle....forever in his senses.....always working hard for a living.....never losing his ambition.....always getting on in life.The two are not compatible. Hard work used to be what marked a Sikh as a Sikh. So much so that foreign textbooks used to describe Sikhism as having a Calvinist outlook of life whereby hard work was a way to salvation. But look at many of you here now. Idiotic, uneducated romantic ideals of drugs. Idiotic uneducated romantic ideas about 'tradition'. Every last one of you here that espouse the use of drugs in Sikhi and try and use Sikhi as a way of justifying it is a lazy, dirty, useless, good for nothing waste of space prospective junkie that come from equally kanjar druggie families for, if they were not, they would have strangled such low lifes at birth.
  5. Well, because a 'ball' by very definition, is a sphere shaped object and, by common sense, the thing Americans play with is obviously an oval egg shaped thing and the fact they use their hands to play with it rather than their foot........we call it 'American Hand Egg'.
  6. We don't have favorites. We have favourites. We don't have soccer teams. We have football teams.
  7. Remind me not to take you with me to a debating contest Singh559. You're about as useful and welcome as Jimmy Saville at a children's charity event. Oh and a little tip.....re; those little 'mistersingh' stylee vide clips. You might wanna limit yourself to the one in future. They work in a sort of double negative way whereby the humour and effect of the first is somewhat cancelled out with the inclusion of an unecessary second. Just a little tip to help you on your way.
  8. What you mean "they actually do it" ? What you telling me that for ? I'm the one here...on a previous thread....who gave a detailed account of my experience in my pend after being given it by the granthi in our Gurdwara while my family were having an akhand path here. I''ll repeat it again: They.....because they are a bunch of un-padh cretins who wouldn't know real Sikhi if it jumped up and bit them on the bottom...drink it. They gave me a glass. It was mixed with milk, almonds and spices and this ensured it will do the rounds in my body's digestive system before finally hitting my head in one almighty explosion a few hours later without warning. And thats exactly what it did. An hour went by....nothing. Two hours went by....nothing. And then, almost like clockwork on the 3rd hour it sudden;y hit my head like a hammer blow. In total and complete intoxication......in total nasha.....without any sense or reason....I ran out of the Gurdwara like a mad man....stole someone's bicycle and went riding through someone's sunflower fields with the tune of Zorba the Greek playing in my head in a loop. I then ran into some people in the pend. Stood there in the middle of them like a mental case and time went very very very slowly. So thats a man on 'shaheedi degh'. A complete and utter tosser and loser, high as a kite, totally useless in the battle field....not least because the enemy will slice him in two before his warped concept of time even allows him to realise there's a man behind him with a sword let alone turn and swing. Lets compare that then, to a true chardi kala Singh of Sri Gobnd Singh Ji.........a man forever ready for battle....forever in his senses.....always working hard for a living.....never losing his ambition.....always getting on in life. The two are not compatible. Those espousing the use of bhang here on this thread are nothing short of dirty, useless, lazy, good-for-nothing junkie material.....desparately looking for spiritual and religious justification to fullfill their heart's desire for nasha.
  9. What ? What you trying to tell us ? Cat got your tongue ? Not have any views of your own ? Not capable of articulating your own views ? Your post is a complete mystery but......if you're trying to use a mortal 'man's' ideas and beliefs about our 10th master using drugs....and pass it off as definitive proof of the truth even though you know that all mortal men are inherently flawed, I will retort with some fundamental truths: Guru ji was clear and adamant about the strict ban on all intoxicants. Only a mentally ill mental inpatient of a facility catering for the mentally ill with a big sign on the front saying 'Drop off your mentally ill here' would argue that bhang does not intoxicate the mind. The Sikh art of war requires extreme close hand eye co-ordination. The use of bhang will completely and utterly destroy hand eye co-ordination...thus rendering the user as useful in the battlefield as a hamster running in the grand national. This, somewhat, explains why these so called 'nihungs' have not actually fought in any of our battles for the last 100 years but choose instead, to run and hide every time the battle has come to us, and choose instead to be pretend warriors pretending to be battle ready, afraid of hard work (as that 'bhang' destroys a man's natural ambition to work hard, earn and go forward in life) and get high and throw hindu holi colours at each other at hohala mohalla in gay abandon.
  10. Ummm.......you have to wonder about a man that is awake at 01:14 hrs on Saturday night /Sunday morning with nothing on his mind but marijuana. Calling it 'shaheedi degh' is just an attempt to give drugs a sense of respectability among those sikhs who are inclined towards narcotic substances. i.e..bani is not good enough for them......simran is not good enough for them.....sangat is not good enough for them. They need drugs in order to reach a stage that Gurbani on its own can take other Sikhs. It grows wild all over Punjab. You'll find it in other people's fields if not your own. It (bhang), unlike the cannbis smoked all the world, is made from the male plant and is made from the leaves and flowers of the plant. As it grows wild in the fields there the general rule among these natural plants is that the shorter the plant the higher the thc levels....i.e the taller plants will have lower thc. Thats a clever ploy I've noticed among 'Sikhs' who are attracted by drugs. Even though it is Hindus who have been 'religiously' making and drinking bhang for thousands of years and 99.9% of the people that drink bhang in order to pretend to be on a higher spiritual level and also those thatdrink it to lose inhibitions and molest each other during, for example, holi are Hindu......The Sikh that has junkie inclinations and capabilities will ignore the 99.9% reality and simply mention the 0.1% (nihungs) in order to give the impression that it is a 'Sikh' thing with a rightfull place in Sikhi.
  11. You obviously didn't read the message directly above yours Cisco. The cost of adhering to very strict regulations is very very high in Singapore. The car scenario I gave you was just an example of it, i.e the fact that one needs to spend around $100,000 on car tax etc before one can even put a car on the road there. Thats why there's so few private ownership cars there and the environment is so clean. Once you've spent $100,000 you can then factor in the additional cost of the actual car. That example then, is how Singapore maintains an extremely clean and orderly society. Standards are very high.....the costs of maintaining those standards are higher still, i.e alot of regulations, and thus we, sitting in other countries need to see both sides of the story with educated and well-read eyes before jumping to conclusions about committee members there trying to get an "s class mercedes". Not least because no self-respecting 'asian' person these days buys a mercedes. Mercedes lost their status symbol years ago. If a committee member these days was that way inclined, he would steal your money in order to buy a Range Rover.
  12. Let me put my points in bullet order: 1) The BBC, time and time again, have been shown to totally disregard the existence of Sikhs in the UK, i.e people that pay for the BBC's existence with our licence fee. 2) With regards to international news from Punjab, they only employ Indian journalists from Bombay who naturally only write or broadcast news about their version of 'India'. 3) We, the Sikhs, have been trying to expose the BBC for a long while now. 4) In my opinion, looking closely at that 'silent man with a turban' constantly in BBC discussion programme audiences, he comes across as a man who does not normally wear a pagh but, like that man in the BNP election broadcasts, has had a pagh haphazardly tied on him in order to give the impression that he is a 'Sikh' thus the audience reflects all cultures. 5) If this is true, then the BBC have behaved in exactly the same way as the BNP and they truly need to be exposed. 6) Thus, it is now imperative that the man in the audience is tracked down by the UK Sikh community at large and the truth, one way or another, revealed. 7) Potentially, if my gut feeling is right, this thing could be big enough to bring down the BBC. It would be a very very serious matter. 8) Track that man down.
  13. Even before he was force fed he had still broken the world record for being on a hunger strike by some margin. In fact the margin was at such a level that it was actually physically impossible for a human to be on hunger strike anywhere near that long and still be alive. And therein lies the problem. The authorities there (India) see us as gimmicky sort of people not to be taken seriously and we do nothing to dispel that viewpoint when one after the other some (we had 3 or 4 in a row) some of or men go on hunger strikes that are not even hunger strikes at all.
  14. It was probably Muslims that did it. I say we ban all Muslims until we can "figure out what the hell is going on". Can I be President now ?
  15. "Already Islamified London" ? Really ? Which part of London do you live in for you to think that ? Oh yeah....you don't do you....You live in the Birmingham area and yet you think we Londoners live an "islamified" city. As a Londoner, let me tell you that this city is very black......very jewish....very very Hindu....extremely European.....increasingly hispanic south american and in these parts of west London very Sikh. But, unless you live in the cheap eastern part of London, it most certainly isn't even remotely 'islamified'.
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