Harmeet Singh

Lets do something, Lets start a new post where we could collect the money to be sent to the families. Please ADMIN, We want our money to be collected at one place. ADMIn could take that focal point or anyone from us could do that. Lets start pouring our contributions.

Mother tongue is not to be laughed on bhai sahib. Why you see this funny and I don't? It is because we didn't gain our knowledge in Punjabi but in English. Had we studied our sciences/arts in Punjabi, would we have laughed on Punjabi? Do we laugh at English? Would you see a german and french laughing at their boli? Our mother tongue is drenched so far from us that today we laugh on her incompatiblity to keep in pace with other "languages" who are considered not "laughable and advanced"

:HP: :awesome Guru sahib Mehar rakhan

Again you are being ignorant about the history of Punjabi suba. For you they were all bumpkins. Sikhs were tortured, it was not only akalis. They were harrased and beaten up. Thousands were jailed it was not only akalis. Commom man also.Punjabi suba extended upto karnal and lot of Punjabi speaking parts. You are also failing to bring in prospect the then promises of govt before independence to Punjab. Tell me how would akalis would have been in power when hindus would have been in majority in Punjab Suba? I gave you example how Nehru dismissed the govt of Akalis which was voted in majority in the then PEPSU state. Hindus also voted for them, but why govt was dismissed by nehru? why nehru singled out Punjabi hindus upto karnal? Punjab doesn’t need sovereignty? You are labeling your own kahlsa panth people as hateful when it was congress who has cut the pie of Punjab. Leave akalis, why didn’t Nehru include all the Punjabi speaking areas of that time (which now speak hindi and this was the demand of all) including upto karnal? Once again you are for no reason I don’t know trying to crop up hate between Khalsa Panth. Why would Sikhs hate Sikhs, the question is about depleting waters in Punjab who is just getting 5 maf out of 52 maf since independence, where are Sikhs hating Sikhs here? This is completely rubbish Give us the proof that Punjab was using rajasthan or harayana’s natural resources without even paying a penny. Watering Down the Constitution http://www.sikhnn.com/modules.ppa?op=modlo...article&sid=212 Veera groundwater can’t be relied for irrigation for a lot of time and Punjab not only has river water but also depleting water table. Deserts become where there is overuse of ground water. If according to you 60% of land in Punjab is not canal watered, so why would then rajasthan/harayana want land to be canal watered(even it is in non riparian basin) on the depleting waters of Punjab? Punjab lies in the riparian basin of sutlej and beas,(lawfully it can do what it wants with its waters, build canals,give water to other states or whatever) haryana and rajasthan lie in the non riparian basin why play with mother nature? Now please fpr waheguru's sake don’t try to say Sikhs don’t want to give water to Sikhs, this is rubbish, and right now they don’t even have water for themselves. And this was the major issue of militancy , are you also going to say all our freedom fighters from Bhindrawale also hated Sikhs. Moreover why someone wanna give water only to Sikhs, there are also hindus living and this problem needs to be tackled with the unification and autonomy of Punjab as a whole(including the old one, which Nehru not Sikhs kept out) Haryana is also much prosperous than Punjab with highly industrialized state whereas Punjab was denied all the loans to the industry builders. You failed to mention the step motherly treatment of Indian govt but mention about SGPC. Well SGPC also step motherly treats own Sikhs from Punjab. It is not any basis of any argument . You should talk at the level of sikh panth not any Punjabi or non Punjabi panth. Anyway if that doesn’t helps you yes all Sikhs of Punjab are crazy and hateful towards all people living outside, they hate so much that they would give all waters to India after independence for free.

My gosh it was nehru who promised punjab her autonomy and soverignity before indpenadence otherwise britishers were going to create independent punjab(Sau sakhi by Sardar kapur Singh),and while he was giving language recognizition to all other states so why step motherly treatment withPunjab? PEPSU under nehru was never allowed to have non congress govt, Surprisingly In the first genereal election Nehru and congress were defeated under the leadership of Sardar Dhyan Singh Dhariwala, but guess what nehru dismissed this Punjab govt in one year. Why? Sikhs wanted to have sovreignity what a grave sin have they committed? If you see the real map of punjabi Suba it had lot of HIndu population also , it extened to almost delhi,(but some hindus denied to write punjabi as thier mother tongue and punjabi was left to sikhs)sikhs wouldn't be in majority as they might be today in punjab, carved out by Nehru. Either nehru would have given language recognization and allowed non congress govts to function in punjab,it wouldn'y have had happened. Still, he kept major dams out of punjab. A lot of people died for the autonomy and sovereignity of punjab , telling those who died and were tortured by police were bumpkins is not only pathetic but also would be considered inhumane by many. You probably look like a young person who hasn't be f amiliar with the punjabi history viz a viz transfer of chandigarh to haryana. No body is denying water to haryana or rajasthan if punjab had its autonomy of old punjab. Would we have seen this problem created by nehru? Also it was only in punjab after 1984 that sikhs were not killed otherwise we would have been up rooted there too. Having a place where some can call our home is not a sin. http://www.onlypunjab.com/latest/fullstory...newsID-567.html The soil of rajasthan is different from punjab and is not irrigatable, Also Haryana lies in non riparian basin. Playing with mother nature is not a good thing. Over farming occurs under highly mechanized farming where soil is forced to producve more then it could and most of the farming is relied on ground water. Punjab's ground water are depleting as other states are taking the river waters. Right now punjab can't even produce crops becasue it doesn;t even have water. Punjab requires a minimum of 52.5 maf, but only receives 5 maf from the rivers. (forcibly relying on depleting water table). SO yes punjab would become a desert if we go by the solution given by you. Well if nehru would have created the real Punjabi Suba or autonomy of punab,this water problem wouldn't have been here today, and sikhs and hindus of rajasthan and haryana could have enjoyed waters.(provided punjab has water)But No, the gameplan is to label punjab as culprit and anti national taking all the water rights away from people. But why to blame nehru, blame ourselves, we should have got our punjab back during independance.

http://health.yahoo.com/health/ency/adam/0...003099/overview "Lumps in the armpit (axilla) may arise from various causes. Cysts and superficial infections in the skin of the armpit may follow shaving or use of antiperspirants (as compared to deodorants). This occurs most frequently in adolescents just beginning to shave. " Deodorants plus shaving linked to <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?...p?id=ns99994587 09:00 24 January 04 Exclusive from New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues. Frequent underarm shaving combined with deodorant use might increase women's chances of getting <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer, claims a study based on a survey of over 400 women with <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer in the US. It is the first evidence of such a link to appear in a peer-reviewed journal, but it is far from conclusive. Claims that deodorants cause <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer hit the headlines recently when Phillipa Darbre of the University of Reading in the UK published a paper reporting that preservatives used in antiperspirants and deodorants can be found in <admin-profanity filter activated> tumours. But this in no way proved that the preservatives, called para-hydroxybenzoic acids or parabens, actually caused the tumours, and most deodorants no longer contain any parabens. The US study, by Chica go doctor Kris McGrath of Northwestern University, does suggest that deodorants or antiperspirants might be linked with <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer, but only together with underarm shaving. And it has too many weaknesses to be regarded as definitive. The issue first gained publicity in the 1990s when a hoax email was widely circulated. It claimed that underarm shaving creates tiny nicks, allowing unnamed chemicals from deodorants or antiperspirants to enter the body and trigger tumours. The first, and until now only, epidemiological study was published in 2002. Dana Mirick's team at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle included questions on underarm shaving and deodorant use in a study comparing 800 women with <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer with 800 randomly chosen women of similar age. Mirick found no evidence of any link. Age related McGrath's study, published in December, was smaller. He divided 437 <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer patients into four groups depending on how often they shaved and applied deodorant. He found that the more zealous the underarm regime, the younger the women were when diagnosed with cancer. Those who shaved at least three times a week and applied deodorant at least twice a week were almost 15 years younger when diagnosed than women who did neither (European Journal of Cancer Prevention, vol 12, p 479). Neither shaving nor deodorant use alone was linked with a younger age of diagnosis. McGrath suspects the aluminium compounds found in many products might be to blame. But Mirick says McGrath's study has major limitations. The most serious is the absence of a control group without <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer, she says. That means there could be a simple explanation for the findings: younger women use antiperspirant and shave more often than older women. Hygiene regime McGrath admits that the study's power is limited. But he claims it is the first to address the intensity of underarm hygiene regimes. "If a disease is from a lifestyle, those exposed to that lifestyle more should have an earlier diagnosis than those less exposed. For example, the more one consumes alcohol the sooner an alcohol-related disease should appear," McGrath says. "It is a landmark publication because it provides the first epidemiological evidence for a link between the use of antiperspirants/deodorants and <admin-profanity filter activated> cancer development," claims Darbre. Subscribe to New Scientist for more news and features Related Stories Cosmetic chemicals found in <admin-profanity filter activated> tumours 12 January 2004 Early puberty linked to shampoos 3 April 2002 Gender-bending chemicals common in sunscreens 18 April 2001 For more related stories search the print edition Archive Weblinks Northwestern University Medical School Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center Antiperspirants, Unilever European Journal of Cancer Prevention Like Darbre, McGrath speculates that the steady rise in the incidence of <admin-profanity filter activated> cancers could be linked to deodorants. But in fact the rise in underarm deodorant use seems to parallel or even lag slightly behind the cancer rise, says David Philips of the Institute of Cancer Research in London - the opposite of what you would expect if there was a link. Darbre cites as another cause for concern the fact that over half of <admin-profanity filter activated> cancers occur in the part of the <admin-profanity filter activated> nearest the armpit. But sceptics say this is because that quadrant has the largest amount of <admin-profanity filter activated> tissue. Mirick's work has convinced most experts that there is not hing to worry about. But McGrath and Darbre argue that their studies provide enough evidence to justify funding bigger and better studies. Journal reference: European Journal of Cancer Prevention (vol 12, p 479) Jo Whelan

Many sikhs are misinformed and have felt elated in myraid ways after hearig the news that Darbar Sahib would be passed to UNESCO and given a world heritage status reducing Darbar Sahib just to another Homenymoon destination and advertising business point. Please WAKE UP khalsa panth. This will pass all the sovreignity and jurisdiction of Akal takht to UNESCO and GOI. GOI is spreading rumours that this would give following advantages: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20041111/aplus.htm#5 Advantages of heritage status * The heritage status would increase public awareness about the site and impose primary responsibilities on the government to preserve the property and its original architecture as per the highest standards of preservation. Indian Government would preserve the property of Darbar Sahib? * In case of any regional war, the parties in conflict will be obliged to refrain from attacking Sri Harmandir Sahib. There is no neeed to impose laws and interfere with Khalsa Panth, If GOI attacks again we will tackle we wont allow UNESCO to conduct any kind of work as it may batter the santicity of Darbar Sahib. * There would be a shared international commitment to preserve the heritage and legacy. NO need for that. Guru sahib have taught us Sangat and Pangat for doing all work and Sewa, This is an plot by GOI to make us refrain from our culture and identity and what it means. * Any new construction will need to be notified. It will have to get the approval of the World Heritage Committee. We have already seen the GOI co nstructing AKal takht Sahib and doing it's utmost damage to us. * The SGPC will have to consult UNESCO while carrying out repair work. While it is true SGPC is corrupt we need to fight SGPC and get our gurudwaras back rather then passing them to another corrupt agency. Heritage Status For Sri Darbar Sahib ::Witness84 The Sikhs face a big threat to their sovereignty - the jurisdiction of the Sri Harimandir Sahib and Akal Takht is to be formally conceded over to the jurisdiction of the Indian Government, if this 'behind the scenes stealth' move is allowed to go through. Without any consultation with the Panth, collusion between the Government of India and some misinformed Sikhs, has resulted in an application for 'heritage status' to UNESCO. In essence, the Harimandir Sahib should have no formal juridical control by any manmade political institution. Its physical protection and management is the responsibility of the Sikh Panth. The Akal Takht is the political seat of Sikhs, representing the sovereignty of Guru Panth in the balance of Guru Granth & Guru Panth - it is the 'living' decision making institution of the Sikh Panth. With a Heritage status, the independent sovereignty of Guru Panth will be formally taken away, making one of Sikhi's main institutions defunct. This is why the world's buildings representing seats of sovereignty institutions - like Buckingham Palace or Windsor Palace in UK, the White House, be as they be beautiful buildings, never apply for heritage status as they are 'living' sovereign institutions. We present the argument below in more detail- the pros and cons for this application in order for a consultation within the global Sikh community. In addition to this website, we are taking this argument into the community. Witness84 was able to get hands on this 'very secret' document - an event that in itself sent alarm signals. We have studied this document and had lawyer s in the UK deliberate on the documents. Witness84 is taking a stand of opposing this application with the most forceful vigour. Our campaign is to make representations to UNESCO and SGPC - we make these letters available below for YOU to join in and make this a common Panthic campaign, which requires urgent action as the application is at an advanced stage. In addition, we are building a PETITION page by the end of this week.. please show us your support by signing this. Witness84 http://www.witness84.com/unesco/ Read more at http://www.sikhlionz.com/saynotounesco.htm

I didnt get that, I visted the site give me the shabd bhaji

Sorry JSS bhaji Maan kaum lai kurban ji Could you plz elaborate on that?

JSS bhaji Could you plz elaborate on that?

Joga veeer that was not right on your part veer, Calm down everybody have their confusions, that doesn;t mean we have to be rude like that to jas bhenji Khalistani bhaji I was refering to your quote that Guru nanak sahib ji only Satguru in this world, my point was that bhagats like kabir ji, pipa, naamdev ji, trilochan ji, bhagat dhanna ji also had guru sahibs and have refered to them as thier Satguru. Baba Nanak was Satguru and also Jagat guru, but others also had satguru as bhagats write. Also could you give me the quote of guru sahibans where they say that he is Waheguru or God? Thanks,

Just to tease my veers and bhens here Americans think Canadians are backwards

Khalistani veer ji thanks for the shabad. That is true Waheguru is the supreme GUru, but bhagats also had "deh" in guru Baba kabir's guru was Ramanand Baba farid jis guru was Khwaja Bakhtiar Kaki ji and then all other bhagats same way had their Gurus. Also yes there is no difference between the qualities of waheguru and Guru sahib, but waheguru is formless.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh Khalistan veer ji could I have shabad of Baba farid you say? Also Guru Nanak Dev ji was the Satguru and Jagat guru, but Bhagats also had Satguru. Says Kabeer, the Guru has blessed me with this understanding. ||4||1||14|| There are many Shabads. About the prophets of other religions, I believe Guru Nanak dev ji has given them due respect but we are not told to follow them. Also Budhas belief was that if someone is going to believe in God, he is going to and therefore his writting are more on Mind. Guru nanak dev ji was asked by muslims how do you define a muslim? Baba ji writes on page 141 It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one. First, let him savor the GOd's will as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away. The english tranlsations of sant singh are very different from the Punjabi translations of Proff Sahib singh we the Panth considers accurate. He mentions the name of Mohammad Sahib, but the punjabi tranlsation at http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/0141.html is very up to the mark and doesn't mentions mohammad sahib. But yes all people were holy people as God sends. Kabeer is the child of God, Allah, Raam. All the Gurus and prophets are mine. ||5|| So our Guru is our Satguru Guru Granth Sahib ji ,Is there any Guru like this for me! No Bhull Chukk Maaf fateh

<banned site filter activated>about.shtml Baba has a website and calls himself 'his holiness". he has lot of followers , check his website. Yogi was also one. But when Yogi didn't bring any followers to Virsa singh, yogi started what he learnt from baba, The white clothes idea came from Virsa singh most probabaly as seen. Baba's teaching include a mix of all religions and also some udasi beliefs.Browse his site, you will have an idea what he is. He is one Babas among india who has reached up with a lot of political power. Other Babas are still struggling in Punjab. Baba virsa and co and yogi etc were all who remained silent on massacring of sikhs by India.

No niranjana ji that is OK. I was just wondering how to address you.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20...1m10bhajan.html and www.nytimes.com/2004/10/09/national/09bhajan.html Some facts, This is funny : Yogi bhajan Funny sometimes he tells he learnt yoga in Pakistan, More funny is he never brings VIrsa singh into his life.

Sleek veer ji waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh I also used to think the way you do, Great person was he who made sikhs, well then I got known all that glitters is not gold. Humbly What contribution has he made? Insulting our Gurus was just not the thing he indulged in, you do some research ask all the panth and then decide. Ask the panthic orgqanizations world sikh council, council of khlistan, united Sikhs, SMART etc. Truth can’t remain hidden. Just by hiding oneself in the garb that he has made Sikhs. I don’t believe it is he who make Sikhs, it is guru who makes Sikhs. Many Sikhs have left his 3ho which ruined their lives and leaving 3ho was not easy yogi gave them death threat , some are still sikhs now. Most of all people in punjab know yoga is against sikhi. "saints" don't run multi million dollar coorporations of Impiricalism and Keep Bodyguards around them. Tell yogi about this, he wont listen. People here In West/America say "Look at what he has done for Sikhi." .We would like to see sikhi without him. His religion is different from Guru's Dharm. It is a all in all blended religion, a synthetic synthesis of ascetic yoga (Tantra, Kundalini, Muntra, Mudra, Vedic medicines, etc.), called "Bhajanism" (his own philosophy) and some Sikhi ideals. He mixes this all together into something that should be called "Amero-Bhajanism," . Osho also used to talk about Spirituality and was considered as great spritual among times, but we know what he was. You are going for outter appearance of a sikh, what a sikh believes should matter for us rather than just wearing turban and beard. Naam dharis also do that. Also some people are saying the yogi bhajan was admired by some famous personalities, I want to add that Baba Jarnail singh ji also admired Sant longowal once but that doesn’t mean we need to admire longowal who sold Punjab to rajiv Gandhi. fateh!

Niranjana ji you forgot to answer my question?

NIranjana ji are you BHai Sahib or Bhenji? please just wondering!

JSS bhai sahib ask Guru Sahib could he ever write such things? I would be Paaapi Mahaa Maaha paapi and God should tear me cut me off if I would ever believe guru sahib could write this.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh Finally a sign of relief that their are my brothers in this world who could understand insult towards our guru and my service to them has been fruitful. To write more Mr yogi bhajan created Kachi bani he told to worship shakti, and created his mantras or from somewhere else, even when sikhi condems to sing mantras outside the realms of what guru has give to us. "adi shakti namo namo" And the next one is preety balsphemous. he created "ong namo gurdevo namo" what is this? Now who is he to use guru sahib's words to create his own mantras by replacing some words from the Yoga Sutras. this guy went far saying Guru nanak was already predicted by "patanjli" in his yogic sutras,..pure blasphemization..so who is better then Guru Nanak sahib or patanjali..or is he trying to put patanjali at same level of Guru sahib. if you wanna know more yogi said "Waheguru " mantra was even known to patanjali and he writes it in push puran. you tell me what is he doing? spreading guru's word or spreading his yogic empire? Source: http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/discussion....91?OpenDocument http://www.snsm.org.my/library/yogiji/yogi_v1.htm the article was originally from snsm which has closed for now but you could read from the above sikhnet link. Although his blasphemies could all night along, one may wanna read Kamalla rose kaur articles, i know her personally and how her life was ruined by when she was in 3ho. http://www.sikhe.com/gsdno/articles/issues/ Khalsa panth is united to wreck this anti sikh practices. If white people are sikh, dont worry they will stick to sikhi, those who wanna leave can leave. I am in touch with the WSC and we will get all sikh organizations together to hammer this now , before it becomes an epidemic. waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh I repeat again he distorted Gurbani intentionally. I repeat AGAIN that he INSULTED Guru Sahib. I repeat that He CHANGED Gurbani and Said Yogic kiryas are MENTIONED in Sri Guru Granth sahib ji and Bhagats and Gurus did this. DID that make any sense?DID that shake someone??DID that make anyone feel that how much of a dangerous thing is this? How much of a thing is to do this to we sikhs? I havn't felt that from here so far. I also used to think the same way you people think that he made Sikhs. Yogi Bhajan was the ex student of Baba virsa singh the man, who along with RSS claim that the pornography written in Dasam Granth is written by Guru Gobind singh ji. When I got known it summed me all what this yogi as entire person is. It is not that sikhnet just wont take anything against on their tantric bhajan. I have also read that aura thing around BHajan and look how they flee from telling this to panth. sikhnet is now more of a BHajan net then sikhnet alone. My sisters are also here and I am sorry to tell and write here, but then I think they should know also this what I am telling to Sangat. Astrology,Numerology, yogic sex,(sorry I know my sisters are also here), face reading ¨CIs that being a sikh? When guru sahib told us explicitly not to indulge in these things. World sikh council and all Sikh Panth has already denounced and we are stuck WOW he made Sikhs! Also are sikhs only to have an outward appearance? It is Guru Sahib who makes Sikh not any person. Please have this in mind. Ask them why they wear only white clothes? Because yogi bhajan said white color causes fewer vibrations¡­.?? So that means white people are racially superior than we blacks and browns? Ask him why he practice yoga when gurus banished this? Ask him why some people do yoga watching the picture of Yogi bhajan in the morning? Ask him why did Yogi bhajan arranged marriages based on the belief of saying that he could see auras and match the right Auras? Is that Sikhi? Ask him why is there a statue of Baba Sri chand ji outside the gurdwara in Espanola? Because Baba sri chand ji performed celibacy and believed in yogic technology. Ask him why people consider bhajan as Spiritual teacher ? Ask him why yogi made prophecies depicting himself as the HOLY PROPHET It is amazing to see the control yogi possesed over his followers here is what Yogi said "a teacher in last life on the planet and one will get liberated after that! " Who is he to say that? I can;t believe how people are considering "deh" as Guru, and what he said to be true without consulting Guru sahib. Pure flouting of gurbani in presenting oneself as the Holy "saint baba guru "and how can someone hold so much authority to say who is gonna liberated , this is almost putting yogi equivalent to Guru sahib. He charges and then asks for more Gurudakshina, a anti sikh hindu practice. Source: http://www.kundaliniyoga.com/clients/ikyta...89?OpenDocument Also where did he got his PhD in Psychology from? University of Humanistic studies,-San Francisco. Well check it out the university doesn¡¯t exists or probably was never. You need to read the immoral s----e-----x¡ªu----al practices he taught. Telling to could do kundalini and have divine union. This may pe rturb you. *edited* Also read the dear yogi ji section what gurbani he taught? What a way for a holy man to talk? http://www.aquariantimesmagazine.com/issue...es/2002_Summer/ Click on past issues and see the picture of ¡° Kaamaa sutra¡± and yogi bhajan talks..Is this our sikhi?? See the things they are following? http://www.spiritvoyage.com/shopping/detai...ail.cfm?PC=1263 Yogi said he was the only available tantric in the world to set people right. He proclaimed to see the auras of people. And said he would always live. http://whitetantricyoga.com/yogi_bhajan.htm This is entirely anti gurmat to go to tantrics and get yourself right..then what is the use of Guru sahib? Anybody who has an iota of knowledge of sikhi would know this. Bhai trolochan singh condemned all the pratices in early 70s or 60s when he came to america and was preaching this. Yogi explicitly remained at distance from the sikh Panth to carry his Empire of Bentlyes and Mercedes. Why he was having relations with Namdharis? http://www.sikhnet.com/s/MiriPiriPrepares yogi bhajan is considered as spiritual teacher. I told sikhnet two times to change this but no response! Innocent Modrators have not been told the right history and some posts in the youth forum claim that gurus did yoga. http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/youth.nsf/3...ghlight=0,yogis I again appeal to my brothers and sisters to do some research on this person. He is none the less than any other Baba of Punjab who espouses his Tan tra and fooled hundreds. In Press http://www.shared-vision.com/old_site/y00m...5/storyb01.html Yogi says kundalini can only save people and not religions?..eh the holy man This is an article where he used profane language on sikhnet? Holy man? Sorry meri Bheno but would you like someone to talk this to your daughter/sister? http://www.sikhnet.com/sikhnet/articles.ns...33;OpenDocument yogi bhajan:Quotes, *edited* what a language for a 'holy' man! *edited* Is this is the language of a 'saint' to children? *edited* Wake up SIKHO before we see a new ¡°cult¡± claiming the ideals of Sikhism. If this didn¡¯t sum of what is he? I am sorry I will rest my pen now. Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh

Singh sahib ji Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh He has said the Guru Gobind singh ji had made a mistake. He says relgion isn’t going to help as much as kundalini is. As per your stance, Should we also say that KPS Gill must also be having some good points, so it was Ok to kill Sikhs? (No body is perfect) A person is intentionally distorting gurbani and telling people to write immoral books and we want to count the good points in him. Majority of the sikh jagat is still illusioned by the fame he created, where was he when we were tortured? He was also having “good” relations with naamdharis. What we know is World Sikh Council and all Sikh organization in America denounce him and his practices. No organization went there when he passed away. Sangat could do some research independently to find the truth. He created he different vows of Sikh dhrama manual, and read how he said that yogic technology and philosophy is same as gurbani. Sikhs can have brunt of swords but could they see there guru deliberately getting Insulted? fateh

To my surprise no body responded to my post. Yogi was one of those rich people who didn;t voice when sikhs were being killed in India. Also look at his blasphemy and this is just a drop in ocean of what he did. http://www.sikhism.com/articles/mr_yogis_p..._prophecies.htm On Full Page Advertisement by Mr. Yogi January 27, 1989 Dear Editor, Many uncomfortable thoughts developed in my mind after reading the full page advertisement by Mr. Yogi. The first thing which struck my mind was the unique combination of Khalsa, Yogi and a Christian in one personality. It is, to me, an impossibility. One cannot be a believer of Lord Jesus, Guru Gobind Singh and Yoga at the same time. The philosophy of Yogis was rejected by the Gurus and Bhagats. One can find numerous Shabads in the Guru Granth Sahib to that effect. Japji, required to be read daily by a Sikh, emphatically advises a yogi to give up yoga rituals and instead adopt Gurmat (Pauris 28 – 31). A genuine yogi is he who loves all people as his equals (and not he who practices yoga). Ayer Panth is the highest sect of yogis. A yogi cannot be a Sikh, as a Jew cannot be a Christian, one cannot be both at the same time. Secondly, we are told in the advertisement that 1989 will be a year of “God in blessing.” According to Sikh faith, God is always blessful and merciful. It is we who lose his blessings by turning our faces away from him. To believe that God was not merciful in 1988 (or earlier), but will be in 1989 is anti-Sikh thought. Those who worship days, dates, or years, believing them to be good or bad, are fools. Mr. Yogi is trying to tell us that God observes Christian calendar to bless his people because no other calendar makes figure 9 this year. Only a Christian having faith in Christ as the only begotten son of God can believe that. Further his belief that 9 represents God is against the Sikh faith. Guru Nanak Dev used the figure one (as in Ek Oangkar), to represent God. If we agree with Mr. Yogi, 1980, which is also divisible by 9, should have been good for us. During this year, the Sikh Government in Punjab was dismissed by the Delhi Raj and murders of Sikhs were started by the army and police. The destruction of the Golden Temple and massacre of Sikhs was planned by the Government in this year. There is another important date which draws attention of the reader to that advertisement. Mr. Yogi wants us to join him on June 18, when about half of the year would already be gone. To me the catch is in the first two words, “Join me…” Mr. Yogi wants Sikhs to join him, i.e. become his disciples rather than those of the Guru. The question arises, ‘why should we join Mr. Yogi?’ May we ask him why not all of us should join the Guru, Guru Granth Sahib and Guru Khalsa Panth (instead of Mr. Yogi) and why not start today (instead of 6 months later). How long would people continue fooling Sikhs by such gimmicks? I think as long as we would let them do that. Lastly, “Singh Sahib” are the honorable words to be used only for the heads of the Takhats and the Harimandar Sahib. Even the president of Shromani committee is not entitled to this honor. There is no Takhat as ‘Sikh Dharma Western Hemisphere’ recognized by the Khalsa Panth. We wonder at the use of this honor by Mr. Yogi himself. Anyway, may it be known that such honors as Bhai Sahib, Padam Shri, etc., are not supposed to be added to one’s name in letters or other correspondence. ¨ Prophesy and Predictions April 23, 1993 Dear Editor, Early in 1989, Yogi Bhajan publicized in your column that the year would be good for the Sikh nation because the total of the digits is divisible by 9. Opposite has happened. The Sikh nation had rather to make more sacrifices since then. I wrote in your column that his prophesy was a bluff and it turned out to be that. The other day I read “Sikhism and Tactic Yoga” by Dr. Trilochan Singh. He writes: The path of Tantra (taught by Yogi Bhajan) is the antithesis of the path of Sikhism. (page 3) However Yogi calls his disciples the true Khalsa, and claims to have done something what Guru Gobind Singh did not do, as he describes below: In my personal experience as gross human body, it is the first time in the world the real perfect shape of the Khalsa came into existence. It did not happen in the time of Guru Gobind Singh. (page 85) And also: Guru Gobind Singh forgot somewhere to write that the Khalsa shall do Pooram Praan Tapaa. (page 86) No wonder that 80 of the 84 disciples whom he took to India for the first time left him to be what they were. Recently, if one follows Khalsa family Visions, there seems a great awakening among the “American” Sikhs. The Vision is published by the “people of consciousness” c/o Japji Singh Khalsa 1390 Waller St., San Francisco, CA 94117. However, its 9th issue was confiscated at winter solstice (Dec. 1991). I pray, “Let the American Sikhs know the path of Sikhism by getting out of Tantic Yoga.” ¨ Return to Articles Main Menu