Harmeet Singh

Prabhsharandeep Singh is a great activist. I think whenver an indian politician comes to the West, there is no better way to expose them to the world than to protest at their evil faces.

Well, If sikhism believes in Karma and everything happens due to karma and not hukam, what is use of God?

I want to know which shabd is this? which guru sahib has written it?

Does Sikhism believe in Karma? Hukam and Karma seem mutually exclusive to each other. Hukam is the order of the universe or waheguru while karma is based upon individualistic actions and there results upon the individuals. If I do everything and get results based upon those actions then what is the place or use of God? On the contrary, Hukam says a person does nothing and everything is done is by waheguru. There is no need to worry or feel sad. Any views? Read more: http://www.sikhspectrum.com/082006/reincarnation.htm

By Mark Juergensmeyer http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcont...0bhindrawale%22 Uncritical comparison of Khalistan movement with Alqaeda More Info: http://www.global.ucsb.edu/punjab/

please go and check out: Operation Bluestar and Punjab Insurgency and numerous other false propagandous material

I think people here are not getting the point. Wikipedia is a macroscopic debate on various issues. Don't get beaten in the world while we myopically debate here on sikh issues. If we want to tell the world it is must that we step out of our doorstep and debate with the world. People here are very good debaters, but I think wikipedia lacks good Sikh representatives.

I mentioned this article because of growing Hindu nationalism on Wikipedia.org. In my opinion, I think besides debating with each other on Sikh forums, we should also leap out and see how we are being informationally misinformed.

Some Indians are really giveing misinformation to the world on Sikhsim and Khalistan movement. Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Brahmanism

Badal

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=60...olice&hl=en http://www.ensaaf.org/Khalravideo.html Very good suggestions for the Sikhs towards the end.

Ang 1240 jooth na raageeN jooth na vaydeeN. Impurity does not come from music; impurity does not come from the Vedas. jooth na chand sooraj kee bhaydee. Impurity does not come from the phases of the sun and the moon. jooth na annee jooth na naa-ee. Impurity does not come from food; impurity does not come from ritual cleansing baths. jooth na meehu varHi-ai sabh thaa-ee. Impurity does not come from the rain, which falls everywhere jooth na Dhartee jooth na paanee. Impurity does not come from the earth; impurity does not come from the water. jooth na pa-unai maahi samaanee. Impurity does not come from the air which is diffused everywhere. naanak niguri-aa gun naahee ko-ay. O Nanak, the one who has no Guru, has no redeeming virtues at all. muhi fayri-ai muhu joothaa ho-ay. ||1|| Impurity comes from turning one's face away from God. ||1||

As I read form the website, there is nowhere Clinton has said that India is responsible for Sikh killings in Chattisinghpora. He only mentions Hindu Militants

http://goasia.about.com/od/india/a/khalistan.htm Quite a accurate assesment on Khalistan from what it seems like a very few of informed Media Sites; About.com Have another look at Sikh Controversies at http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/sikh...debate_hind.htm A Sikh State in the Punjab's Future? The idea of an independent Sikh state -- Khalistan, to its current proponents -- is not new. The last Sikh Guru, Gobind Singh (1666-1708 AD), effectively started a Sikh state in 1699 when he created the Khalsa Panth - the Sikh Commonwealth - which Sikhs entered through a religious ceremony known as the Amrit. The Sikh state managed to resist Mughal domination, but became part of the British Empire in the mid-1840's. They were incorporated into India when the sub-continent was divided into Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan by the British at independence. In 1966 India created Punjab State as a concession to Sikhs. Beginning in 1982, Sikhs activists began a series of civil disobedience campaigns during which time perhaps over 100,000 Sikhs were imprisoned. These campaigns embarrassed the Indian government (led at the time by Indira Ghandi) and stressed India's prison system...............

http://www.khalistan-affairs.org/home/khal...06/april19.aspx International media finally pays attention to the on-going Naxalite Rural revolution in India Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh admits that Naxalism is the single biggest internal security challenge ever faced by India and calls for action against the Naxalites Washington, D.C., Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - The international media in general, (New York Times et al.) and Pakistani media in particular, have finally noticed what we have been saying for years about caste-ridden India’s giant ‘skeleton in the closet’, its’ Achillles’ heel, the fast growing Naxalite peasant revolutionary movement. An armed rural ‘revolution’ which has been spreading like a prairie fire for years (and has now engulfed more than half of dynastic, caste-ridden, misruled India’s 600 districts in fourteen of it’s 28 states) has spread over a disturbed area of over one million eight hundred thousand square Kilometers (yes 1, 800, 000 square Kilometers) where the writ of the Indian state does not exist at all. This Naxalite effected ‘liberated’ area now nearly equals the total land areas of Pakistan-803, 940 sq. kilometers; Afghanistan-647, 000 km; Bangladesh-144, 000 km; Nepal-140, 000km; Sri Lanka-65, 610km; Bhutan-47, 000km; and Maldives-300 Sq. Kilometers, combined. This column (Khalistan Calling) has been monitoring the Naxalite movement for years and has kept our readers informed with our findings about the armed insurgency. Nearly two years ago we researched the Naxalite movement (What makes it tick?) and in our column dated October 15, 2003, we gave a background and history of this ‘muscular’ movement for the benefit of our readers. The column was headlined, ‘India’s Naxalite Movement – What is it?” which can be read by clicking at the following link at: (www.khalistan-affairs.org/khalistancalling/2003/october15.aspx) Since then we have written extensively - four times to be precise - about this rural rebellion, nay armed insurgency, which is gnawing at India’s vitals from within. See our column dated May 11, 2005, headlined, “What will the muscular Naxalites target next in rural India?” (www.khalistan-affairs.org/khalistancalling/2005/may11.aspx) Our column dated September 07, 2005, headlined, “Naxalites ambush and destroy armored truck in Chhattisgurh killing 24 Indian soldiers - How does this rural Naxalite revolution affect Punjab?” (www.khalistan-affairs.org/khalistancalling/2005/september07.aspx) Our column dated February 01, 2006, headlined,” Assam militants destroy Oil pipeline and demand Rs. 500 crores or else - What and where in India will the Naxalites hit next? “ (www.khalistan-affairs.org/khalistancalling/2006/february01.aspx) Our column dated March 22, 2006, headlined, “Musings on the growing Naxalite Peasant ‘Revolution’ spreading like a prairie fire in caste-ridden, dynastic, nuclear-armed India.- Armed Naxalites rule the roost in rural areas in 220 districts in 13 Indian states & the Indian government is helpless.- Some government!”(www.khalistan-affairs.org/khalistancalling/2006/march22.aspx) “ Finally the New Delhi correspondent of the New York Times, Ms. Somini Sengupta, an Indophile journalist of Indian origin, has taken note of the armed rebellion in the ‘Indian countryside’ after trying to divert attention of NYT readers by focusing on the socalled Maoist/ Naxalaite rebellion in Nepal for over a year. At last Somini Sengupta has filed a rather long-winded ‘apologetic’ report headlined, “In India, Maoist Guerrillas Widen 'People's War' - A quiet 25-year fight looks increasingly like a civil war, one claiming more and more lives,” which was published on April 13, 2006 in the New York Times. (www.nytimes.com/2006/04/13/world/asia/13maoists.html?ex=1145160000&en=878c769d3190b2b7&ei=5070) Just for the record, and as a comparison, Ms. Somini Sengupta has filed fourteen stories in the New York Times, since January 1, 2006, on the ‘Maoist/ Naxalite Peoplee’s War’ rebellion in the tiny & remote Himalyan Kingdom of Nepal – area 54, 363 square miles, population a little over twenty seven million as compared to one report on the massive Naxalite rebellion raging in India (area 1, 269, 345 square miles, population nearly a hundred million over one billion) since March 2, 1967, nearly thirty eight years ago. That is the date when India’s armed peasants' struggle began, in Naxalbari, in West Bengal, when a tribal youth named Wimal Kesan, who had a judicial order, went to plough his land and upper caste local landlords attacked him through their goons. This sparked wide-scale violence by tribals who started capturing back their lands implementing the vision of rural revolution against medieval landlordism/ casteism in India spelled out by the late Charu Majumdar, a visionary revolutionary who has been compared with China’s Mao Tse-tung. In the 72 days, after March 2, 1967, Charu Majumdar-backed tribal violence and retaliatory action by the state, the Naxalbari incident echoed throughout India and Naxalism was born. Ms. Somini Sengupta in her April 13, 2006 New York Times report, datelined-Bhanupratapur in the state of Chhattisgarh, writes that, “While the far more powerful Maoist insurgency in neighboring Nepal has received greater attention, the conflict in India, though largely separate, has gained momentum, too. In the last year, it has cost nearly a thousand lives. Here in central Chhattisgarh State, the deadliest theater of the war, government-aided village defense forces have lately taken to hunting Maoists in the forests. Hand in hand with the insurgency, the militias have dragged the region into ever more deadly conflict. Villagers, caught in between, have seen their hamlets burned. Nearly 50,000 are now displaced, living in flimsy tent camps, as the counterinsurgency tries to cleanse the countryside of Maoist support. The insurgents blow up railway tracks, seize land and chase away forest guards. They have made it virtually impossible for government officials, whose presence here in the hinterland is already patchy, to function. Police posts, government offices and industrial plants are favored targets. Their ultimate goal is to overthrow the state……Today the Communist Party of India (Maoist), which exists solely as an underground armed movement with no political representation, is a rigidly hierarchical outfit with toeholds in 13 of 28 Indian states. It stretches from the tip of India through this east-central state to the northern border with Nepal, where the Maoists have set off full-scale civil war. Estimates by Indian intelligence officials and Maoist leaders suggest that the rebel ranks in India have swelled to 20,000, though the number is impossible to verify. One senior Indian intelligence official estimated that Maoists exert varying degrees of influence over a quarter of India's 600 districts. The top government official in one of Chhattisgarh's rural Maoist strongholds, Dantewada, acknowledged that the rebels had made some 60 percent of his 6,400-square-mile district a no man's land for civil servants…..” Ms. Somini Sengupta must be given credit for noting that, India offers a most fertile ground: a deep sense of neglect in large swaths of the country and a ballooning youth population, set against the backdrop of economic growth rates of up to 8 percent elsewhere. The Maoists, (read Naxalites) meanwhile, she notes ‘survive niftily by extorting taxes from anyone doing business in the forest, from bamboo merchants to road construction companies. Attacks have become more brazen and better coordinated.’ Quoting Ajai Sahni, a security analyst and executive director of the New Delhi-based Institute for Conflict Management (a government financed RAW outfit) who is reported to have confessed to her that,” "It is one of the most sustainable anti-state ideologies and movements. Unless something radical is done in terms of a structural revolution in rural areas, you will see a continuous expansion of Maoist insurrection." Following the publication of Ms. Sengupta’s April 13, 2006 report, in the New York Times, two Pakistani newspapers finally realized that India is in far greater trouble than Pakistan will ever be in its Baluchistan province and it is in Pakistan’s interest to give ‘ink’ to the progress of the Naxalite movement in India. The two Lahore-based newspapers, NATION and DAILY TIMES carried reports from their correspondents in New York and Washington based on the New York Times report. (www.nation.com.pk/daily/april-2006/14/international7.php and www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006\04\15\story_15-4-2006_pg4_22) About time! As if coordinated with the April 13 New York Times report on the Naxalites by Sengupta the Indian Prime minister Manmohan Singh, (according to a report in the April 14, 2006, Telegraph newspaper of Kolkutta) while addressing the chief ministers of Bihar, Orissa, Jharkand, Chattisgarh, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh confessed that “identified Maoist (read Naxalite) insurgency as the gravest threat to India’s internal security since Independence.” Manmohan singh who was addressing a meeting of chief ministers of the six Naxalite-affected states in Delhi - Bihar, Orissa, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh said that, “It would not be an exaggeration to say that the problem of Naxalism is the single biggest internal security challenge ever faced by our country. There seems to be unanimity on the fact that we need to give the problem a very high priority. Charu Mazumdar had once talked about a Spring Thunder over India. Today, almost 40 years later, the Naxalite movement has lost much of its intellectual attraction, but it has gained in strength by spreading to over 160 districts all over the country. Our strategy, therefore, has to be to walk on two legs — to have an effective police response while at the same time focusing on reducing the sense of deprivation and alienation.” Brave words! The above Telegraph report also carried a photograph of Maharashtra Chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh sound asleep during the Prime minister’s call to arms against the Naxalites in the Chief minister’s meeting. (www.telegraphindia.com/1060414/asp/nation/story_6098452.asp) According to another story in the Telegraph on April 17, 2006, the Naxalites mounted a morning attack on the Murkinaar outpost, about 550 km from Raipur in Chattisgarh state, on the day former Punjab police chief K.P.S. Gill - a known murderer rent-a-Sikh - was to join as adviser to Chattisgarh state chief minister on how to combat the Naxalites, but failed to turn up for unexplained reasons. He probably had a premonition. (www.telegraphindia.com/1060417/asp/nation/story_6108302.asp) This latest attack took place three days after the Prime Minister met six chief ministers to draw up plans to fight the Naxalites. As if they were showing contempt for ‘governmental authority’ the Naxalite guerrillas blocked several highways in Chhattisgarh, drove a hijacked bus to a police outpost and gunned down 11 police personnel. It is obvious that the Naxalite movement has survived and grown for over thirty eight long years in rural India. It CANNOT be put down by force by anybody (no matter what Dr. Manmohan Singh may pontificate in the presence of slumbering Chief ministers) as long as injustice, hunger and lawlessness continues and the greedy usurious high handed minority Brahmin/Bania evil nexus continues to rule the roost in the rural areas of the world largest, dynastic, oligarchic Castocracy – INDIA – where the majority, (over 800 million) deprived Indians live a life of misery in squalor, shame hunger and want.

I am looking for Sikh Journalists, Political Scientists, Lawyers or people with related interest or experience. If anybody here knows someone please pass on my message. It would be great to know such people around the world. Contact: hsingh3@uis.edu

Hey someone said my name here.. :wub: I am still right here and enjoyin Sikhi.. :TH:

Please stop propagandizing and outright lying. You obviously seems to have some kind of personality clash with Sikhs who fight and consider there rights. For your lies it is no good debating just for your sake of ego tumping. The uttranchal High court court refused to accept the stay order filed by the Sikhs and other lower class hindus. Why? Even the SC said that the staus quo of the farmers must be maintained and not be uprooted but NO they were. Secondly Please also read the Land Tenancy law. The zaminidari land was given to many peasants on the basis of their work and so were other lands. More info http://www.indianchild.com/india_land.htm It wouldn't be surprising to see the same land taken from sikhs been give to industrialists at a dirt cheap price. thanks

Kurtas So you ar saying they were reponsible all the mayhem that happened to them. Implicitly defending the brutal action of police forces.Thats a pretty irresponsible statement. Even if people were to be displaced the court gives the time period to leave or file a counter suit. But not in this case. Even in punjab it the law that if any person who has lived and worked on the land for more than 12 years that land belongs to them(even a tenat or a contractor). It is a basic human right. YOu cant displace and uproot people after 35 years just because of a court order. Sikhs are not powerful in india otherwise one could have put an hold on this court order by filing counter suit Its is always lower class hindus adavasis other minorities including sikhs etc who get beaten up like this.

Lemme tell you something --they want to incite sikhs in punjab on the name of khalistan so that sikhs would again pick arms and GOI can get a excuse to kill them again. It is time to take these happenings seriously. Sikhs need to make sure that the face of indian forces be known to the world.

They also ran anti sikh programme espousing anti khalistan sentiment before arresting him. Be careful about this chauhan, he might do some damage here. GOI is upto something. I think its all abut appeasing hindu votes as elections are nearing. http://www.tribuneindia.com/2006/20060309/punjab1.htm#5 Did any bodys see it?

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/36772.html Sikh man files suit against blackjack teacher By Tom Sharpe | The New Mexican December 23, 2005 An expert card player said he barred an Española Sikh from his seminar because he suspects he works for casinos that want to bar people who learn his method of winning at blackjack. Guru Sant Singh Khalsa recently sued Richard Harvey and Richard Brown, doing business as Mystic Ridge Books or Mystic Ridge Production, alleging they breached his contract to attend Harvey's blackjack seminar. "Mr. Khalsa has invested thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of time becoming proficient to a level where he qualifies for the advanced seminar," says the complaint filed Tuesday in District Court by lawyer John Aragon of Santa Fe. "As a result of the bad-faith breach of contract ... Khalsa (loses) his investment and time and (loses) profits which are reasonably to be expected." The complaint, which seeks unspecified damages, says Harvey falsely accused Khalsa of being an undercover security officer for casinos. According to Sikh Web sites, the Khalsa Code of Ethical Conduct -- also known as the Reht Maryada -- forbids gambling along with stealing and the consumption of alcohol or drugs. Neither Aragon nor Khalsa responded to messages this week. Reached through Mystic Ridge Books' office in Albuquerque, Harvey called Khalsa a "fool," a "phony" and a "crackpot." He said the lawsuit makes him more suspicious of Khalsa's motives. Harvey said there is no written contract between him and Khalsa, and he plans to return Khalsa's money. The class costs $325 plus tax, according to Mystic Ridge Books' Web site. Harvey maintains he has the right to ban anyone from his seminars -- as do casinos and other private businesses. He said he recently told Khalsa that if he wanted to take the seminar planned for Denver in April, he should provide a photo and identification, but Khalsa did not comply. Harvey said Khalsa began acting suspiciously after taking a seminar last year. He said Khalsa claimed he had come into a lot of money, owned a "sports-gaming company," wanted to form an illegal blackjack team with Harvey and tried to "lure" him to the Taos Mountain Casino. "He's very well known at the Taos casino, and he knows damn well that anybody like myself can't go with somebody who's this flaming exhibitionist because then I would be identified, and I would never be able to play blackjack there again." Harvey, who claims to be "one of the top blackjack guys in the world," said he developed his system of winning at blackjack a decade ago with computer studies, "card-behavior studies" and "theoretical-math models." He said he has written several books about his technique, including Blackjack the Smart Way. When Harvey recently visited a Santa Fe-area casino, which he would not identify, he said the pit boss followed him and insisted on dealing to him. "How did they identify me?" he asked. "Maybe they came to my seminar." Harvey said some casinos threaten blackjack experts with violence -- documented by Ben Mezrich's book Bringing Down the House and a soon-to-be-released film based on the book, 21, starring Kevin Spacey. "I've had people follow me onto highways," he said. "I've had people try to break into my hotel rooms. I've got to protect myself and my family, and I cannot allow strange people who refuse to identify themselves to come into my seminars." Recently, Harvey said, he became extra suspicious of Khalsa when he saw a magazine cover with a photograph of a bearded, turbaned Sikh identified as an executive with AKAL Security. A company spokesman said no one named Guru Sant Singh Khalsa worked there. Harvey said when he asked Khalsa if he were the same person pictured in the magazine, Khalsa suggested Harvey thought "all turban people look alike." "That's ridiculous," Harvey said. "It's not about turbans. I've been friendly with the guy. ... But I don't need this crap. It's not kind. It's not nice. It's uncalled for, and now I'm going to have to countersue and spend more money because I'm not going to allow this to go unanswered.

Sangat these journalists are very clever people, please don't get swayed by what they write. Recently in an article in Daily Herald on Op Bluestar everything the reporter wrote was alright pertaining to how it hurted the sikh psyche but when concluding why it happened; she wrote it was because Sant ji had taken illegal weapons inside- so see how they give bait of poison with the coating of sweet sugar so that in one line they can break your backbone. Same is here. How can the Paper say it was sikhs who did it when there is not evidence or legal conclusion as of yet. Following is what I expect to write to the paper and please everybody do respond to Mindy jacobs and her editor. In reply to your article by Mindy jacobs: Kirpan is no threat

that is my point how are those guys terrorists, can she prove?Infact she is not pointing those guys on trial- she is saying sikh terrorists did it..in that case she is making a "provabale" statement. also one time you are saying you don't like to see sikh and terrorits together and then you say its not defamation

As I read the article I couldn't feel more humiliated by constant nagging done on sikhs in the Canadian Media. Do sikhs have any respect in the canadian media? Do have any any sikh journalists who can teach these people a ethical sense of journalism. How hypocrite is this when the author claims to defend the supreme ct decision to wear kirpan in school but can't seem to defend the other supreme ct decision on Air India. Following are her comments Terrorists sikhs?? she must be dragged to the court for defamation. Please do write to the editor and the author of the editorial. Be polite, first apreciate the authors stand to defending the SC's decision on kirpan then proceed towards defaming sikhs. It is very important that sikhs take these defamations seriously in the media so that we can put a stop to all this. E-mail(author) Mindy Jacobs at mjacobs@edmsun.com. Letters to the editor should be sent to mailbag@edmsun.com. Story: http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists...06/1475852.html