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this is news to me. Seriously. I thought China was saying Arunachal Pradesh was their territory and India was sitting on it. Again I had a diffeerent opinion there. But n/m. You might like to read this. From Orbat.com Karzai Says it as he sees it President Hamid Karzai condemned the bombing and said it was carried out by militants trying to rupture the friendship between Afghanistan and India. You are the boss. If you say we are not, then we are not. yes, china does not recognize Arunachal Pradesh and is also silent on Sikkim. During the 1962 war in which India was defeated, China did invade a large part of what was the Indian territory and never gave it back to India. Some time back, i guess it was defence minister george fernandez who said that china is a bigger enemy of india than pakistan. In the future china, russia and the muslim world are going to get together(infact its already happening) and India along with the west is going to suffer badly.

Comeon man, China is currently occupying a large portion of Indian territory in Arunachal Pradesh. What has India been able to do about it ? NOTHING. China is way too powerful and is establishing strong relations with Russia(Russia has huge reserves of natural gas and decent reserves of oil). Recently Nepal became a republic(thanks to China). China and russia are also assisting a resurgent Taliban which is making life HELL of american and british forces. Just today they blew away the indian ambassy in afghanistan. Regarding india being a spiritual society, thats a joke.

I am looking a document file of Budha Dal Rehraas Sahib and arti-arta. Where can I get it ?

If you listen to too much Indian media news then this is the impression that one will get. Stop listening to too much news. peace oye raju, i hardly read the indian media. U need to mind ur business and stop making assumptions about what I am reading and what I shud stop listening. Its a fact that India imports a vast majority of its oil and according to my opinion its a myth that nuclear power can subsitute oil. With complete corrupt Indian judiciary, police and government and with about 25% of muslim population and with a powerful China competing with India for world's oil reserves, what chance has India got ?

Source: https://www.ihro.in/?q=node/93 THE KILLING OF GURJANT SINGH BUDHSINGHWALA BY POLICE Police could have taken him in custody, but killed in cold blood for showing bravery Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala, chief of the Khalistan Liberation Force, was killed on July 29, 1992 at about 10 PM in a “Police encounter” staged in the Model Town Extension, Ludhiana, while he was staying at 95/A, Model Town Extension, with one Kaur Singh, an ex-Havaldar of the Indian Army. The police version of the “encounter” is narrated in the FIR Number 135 dated 30.7.92. U/s 307 IPC, 25 Indian Arms Act, 4/5 Indian Explosives Act and 3/4/5 of Terrorist and Disruptive Activities (Prevention) Act, registered at the Police Station Civil Lines, Ludhiana at the instance of Mr Balwant Singh Gill, Superintendent Police (Detective) Ludhiana. The FIR describes, inter alia, the event as below: On the basis of information to SSP Sidharath Chattopadhya that the top leadership of the Khalistan Liberation Force was to meet in Block ‘A’ of the Model Town Extension colony, in order to chalk out a programme to commit some heinous crime in Ludhiana city. I along with (a list of persons) reached the pointed house and warned the accused to surrender. Instead, they replied in heavy firing. Our party, in order to defend ourselves and to capture the accused, resorted to firing while in crawling position. Meanwhile, a suspect ascended the roof through the staircase and jumped over to the rear of the house. Notwithstanding the danger to our lives, I and the SSP, along with our posse went to the roof and jumped over the suspect. In the meantime, Inspector Manmohan Singh of CIA, along with his force, came to the fore, while crawling. And after encircling the suspect, he started firing. Finding himself trapped, the suspect managed to reach the adjoining vacant plot by scaling the boundary wall and started firing on the SSP and myself (BS Gill). He threw two hand grenades upon us, but in spite of the powerful explosions, we survived. After removing some bricks from the boundary wall, we fired, through the holes. The firing continued for about one and a half hour. When the firing ceased, we searched the area with the help of a search light and located the dead body of the suspect youth in a corner of the enclosure. One AK-47 rifle No: CC-1 x 17024475, with five live cartridges in the magazine and two empties were lying beside him. 45 live rounds of Dragon rifle were found in the bag hung around his chest. A small diary containing currency notes worth Rs. 150/- was also recovered from his pocket. Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala, Chief General of Khalistan Liberation Force, was written on the diary. 70 empties of Ak-47 were lying near the corpse. On house search, we recovered two rocket launchers, along with rockets, 5 Kg explosive material and 3 live detonators with wire on the roof, and 35 empties of AK-47 from the courtyard. In all 951 rounds were fired by the police, the break-up being; SSP-60, SP(D)-50, DSP Narinder Pal Singh-150,DSP Nachhattar Singh-135, DSP Gurmail Singh-175, Inspector Manmohan Singh-160, SSP’s party-145, SP’s party-72 and CRPF-4. As the accused had fired upon the police party with the intention to kill them, he committed offence under section 307- IPC, 25/27 Arms Act, 4/5 Explosives Act and 3/4/5 of TADA (P) Act and this document is sent to the police station for registration of the case. Sd/ Balwant Singh Gill SP (D), 30.7.92 at 3 AM The Real Picture The residents of the locality approached the IHRO, with a different tale, regarding the killing of an unarmed Bhai Gurjant Singh. A four-member investigation team, comprising of the IHRO General Secretary Mohinder Singh Grewal and Secretaries Gurbhajan Singh Gill, Bhupinder Singh Somal and Balbir Singh Sooch, after making on the spot inspection and interviewing more than a dozen persons, reached at the following conclusions: Gurjant Singh was staying with one Kaur Singh, an ex-Havaldar, at his resident in the locality. Kaur Singh testified his good morals and civilised behaviour. Mrs Kaur Singh used to identify him as her cousin. Thus, an uncle-niece relationship had developed between Budhsinghwala and Kaur Singh’s three daughters- Kamaljit Kaur, Rajinder Kaur and Harinder Kaur. He had a reciprocal friendship with the locality residents with whom he used to play games, when free. Kaur Singh, it is learnt, was accustomed to visit the local Gurdwara in the evening and used to return home before 9 PM positively. On the fateful night, he dilly-dallied to leave the place even up to 10 PM, when his acquaintances left him at the Gurdwara wherefrom he was escorted by two plain clothed policemen to the police headquarters, after 11PM. At his place, however, another drama was being enacted. At about 10.00 PM, Bhai Budhsinghwala was dressing up his bed in the veranda of the house. His weapons were still lying inside the room when the house was stealthily encircled by the police. He rushed towards the room but finding its door bolted from inside, ascended the stairs and from the roof jumped into the vacant plot behind. Seeing police officers surrounding the area, he managed to reach the adjoining plot, occupied by some migrant labourers from Uttar Pradesh. A police party happened to pass by that plot. Gurjant Singh being unarmed remained out of their way. When that party returned to the same side, he presumed that the other side was clear of the police. He left his position and came on to the road. At this juncture, he was detected and the police started firing on him from all sides. As a result of this firing Bhai Gurjant Singh was shot, he fell down and succumbed to bullet injuries, just outside the vacant corner plot.” The police immediately picked-up two migrants from UP, Bishamber and Chalitter, who were eyewitness to the whole drama as Budhsinghwala had taken shelter in the plot under their occupation. They were kept in illegal custody for two days. Even when the IHRO team contacted them, they were very reluctant to tell the true story. Moreover, some other residents of the locality, who saw the whole act through their windows etc, were hesitant to disclose their identity and preferred anonymity for fear of police reprisals. On the other hand, the police have provided permanent security at the residence of Kaur Singh, though he himself is still in police protective custody but other members of his family were released a couple of days after the incident. Observations According to the IHRO team, the police story about the KLF chief, Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala, having been killed in an armed encounter with the police, is totally false and fabricated. In fact, no encounter took place, as Budhsinghwala was unarmed. Moreover, the police did not try to capture him alive in spite of the fact that, in the circumstances, there was no possibility of his breaking the strong police cordon empty-handed. The police has alleged that the “encounter” lasted for about one a half hour and 1056 rounds were fired and those too, mainly in a few minutes around 10.15 PM, whereas four shots were heard at 5 AM next morning. It appears that those were fired by the CRPF, so as to join the action, because according to some eye-witnesses CRPF personnel were not seen at night. The police version about two grenades having been hurled upon them by Gurjant Singh does not hold ground as nobody in the locality heard any explosion, nor did the IHRO team find signs of any explosion in the area. The weapons allegedly recovered on and near the body of Budhsinghwala were planted by the over-enthusiastic police officers, after he was killed. The residents of the colony were not allowed to venture out of their houses, right from 10 PM to 6 AM, next morning. The way an unarmed Gurjant Singh was killed by the police and was later shown to have been killed in an armed encounter, is a clear indication that in the process of eliminating the Sikhs who are nonconformists to the state, the Indian Government can throw to the winds, all Indian as-well-as universal laws and norms.

India imports more than 70% of its oil and oil is the LIFE BLOOD of the economy and nuclear power CANNOT SUBSITUTE oil. There is going to be complete anarchy and catastrophic destruction(civil wars, riots) in the near future in India irrespective of this whether this N-deal goes ahead or not. Kindly search for the heading "What About Nuclear Energy" http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/SecondPage.html

Dear Veer, I recently met a psychologist and asked him about this. He said that basically a baby is PROGRAMMED(by God) to learn his/her mother tongue(ie the language/s spoken around him). Now, gurbani is not any normal set of words, It is the bani of Maha Purakh. Amrit bachan Satgur ke baani, jo bolai so mukh amrit pavai || Gurbani has paras kala and all humans are PROGRAMMED to learn gurbani( the only condition is the human to take sharan of Satguru jee and keep rehit) Read this: http://whyfiles.org/058language/baby_talk.html

please see this video. Future is going to be horrible, no doubt about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL08mkeyIHw...feature=related

yep nice, but things wont be that peaceful. People will attack u for food, or may be due to ur religion. It will be a complete mess and the only thing that can save one from such a situation is Naam and Shastar. Thats the reason shastars are kept in the centre at Takhths. Shastars are GOD.

what is the proof that only Sri Aad Granth was parkashed in 1699 vaisakhi. If amrit prepared required banis from both the granths, may be both Sri Aad Granth and Sri Dasam Granth were parkashed.

I am glad that you are not a judge. koor raja koor parrja koor sab sansaar. All duniave governments, judges are false. Only khalsa sarkaar and khalsa judge is sacha. I am not saying I am a khalsa but if somehow i become the judge I will cut the unmentionable part of such a person with my gandassaaa. There is a limit of every thing but this guy has just broken all limits. Rapes, child abuse, absolutely no mercy. Jo karega, so bharega ve zaroor thats what Waheguru jee wants.

<< baba joginder singh pind rakba mullanpur ludhiana !!! >>> Is this some dal headed by baba joginder singh jee ??? Veer, a singh told me that there are some really charrdikala nihung singhs at Loh-garh, Sri Anandpur Sahib. I want to stay at some proper nihung dera and live a fauji lifestyle. Thats the best way to live this mortal life. Horses, sarbloh bataas, great sarbloh shastars, bana, dumallaa, shastar-vidyaa, bani abhiyaas, its just soooooooooooooooooo great.

oye tube light, dont try to act like some "modern" "liberal" great aatmaa. Taliban do some wrong things but they do some right things too. Just because taliban do their acts openly they become bad and americans who have killed the world for crude oil use dipolimatic angreji words and hide their crimes become fine. i do feel that there is nuthing wrong in cutting the unmentionalble part of such a disgraceful person.

<< where u live !!!> My native town is Ludhiana. Some months back, I met a nihung singh at PAU, Veternary hospital, he came as one of their horse had fallen very sick. He was an amazing singh, kept zabardast sarbloh da pehraa, was tyar bar tyar. Sadly after him, most of the nihungs I have met havent been that great, keep no sarbloh da pehraa, eat from the hands of nigura and dont do much bani abhiyaaas. I have this great desire to meet charrdikala nihung singhs, puratan style nihung singhs, who keep strict rehit. Is there any specific dal or sub-group within nihungs who keep very strict rehit ??? Thanks

very good post veer khalsaland.

I know the punj singhs have to be present. But the Guroo jyot has to be present as well just as these days we have the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee Maharaaj Jee. Budha Dal people always do the parkash of both Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee and Sri Dasam Granth during amrit sanchar. So, may be during 1699-1708, same thing used to happen at an amrit sanchar where Dashmesh Pita were not physically present as these by doing so, we will have the complete source of 5 nitnem banis

Basically, chakking amrit is just the start of a very disciplined life entirely based on naam and gurbani. But, when a person chakks amrit and does not keep proper rehit, he is under the constant attack of the 5 demons. Now, when such a person goes to smagams or deraas, he meets similar people who are not serious about meditation and bhagti and thats where the problem starts. Their amritdhari bhekh helps them to do things that non-amritdharis will find difficult as nobody will do suspicion or stop someone from attending a smagam or kirtan program at a "friend's" house. Same is the problem with the "sant babas". They use their garb of "sant baba" to do things that even lusty worldy people cannot do. The girl-friends of these "sant babas" are those mad bibis who feel that just by sleeping with "sant baba" they will cross over this terrible world ocean.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj Jee got gurgaddi in 1708, so how the amrit sanchars between 1699-1708 conducted at a place where Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee Maharaj jee were not physically present ?? Thanks

Building of Harmandir Sahib is one of the events of sikh history. Now in 1604, Sri Aad Granth(104 years before getting gurgaddi) was parkashed in Sri Harmandir Sahib(House of God) and Guru Arjav Dev Jee gave it so much respect. The Aad Granth contained banis of first 5 Guru Sahibaan and it was given so much respect, then why cant Sri Dasam Granth which contains the bani Dashmesh Pita be given great respect and can be parkashed ?? The gurgaddi is with Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee Maharaj Jee, no body is doubting that but that does not mean that Sri Dasam Granth cant be parkashed

dear Veer, does this budha dal sundar gutkaa contain some bani from Sri Sarbloh Granth too ??? I really love many things that nihung singhs do. I hope I could meet some really charrdi kala nihung singhs and stay with them.

This world is just a temporary drama. The thing that really matters is what happens in the sachi dargaah of Akaal Purakh. In that dargah only people imbued with Naam are honoured and poor people like abdaali and indira gandhi, their faces are blackened and are sent to hell. Othai sache he sach nibrai, chunn vakh kadde jajmalaiya. thaoo na payinnn kuuriyaar, MOOH KALA DOJAK CHALLIYAA.

<<<ol if i was non sikh i soosososososoososososoosososo wud n id use the money to build a monument so huge for the saheeda >> Good intentions but I dont think you will be able to do it. Japping Naam is pure gurprasad. People can reach mount everest, can make rockets to reach mars but they cannot JAPP NAAM.

this sleep is maha maha maha maha ballii, so u r not fighting a small battle, most amritdharis fight this battle at amritvela, the best thing is to get some sangat at amritvela and keep a dandaaa and tell that anyone who will be trying to sleep will be hit by a dandaaa. This dirty mind of ours need fear of dandaa at amritvelaa. DANDAAAAAAA RULEZ!

Its a free world, so if somebody wants to date, let them do it, but when it comes to sikhi, there is absolutely no place for dating. Unfortunately what I have observed is that these days many amritdharis date, infact their bhekh of amritdhari makes it easier for them to date. U go to a rainsubayee and find a lonely corner and do some haha heheh and after some time do the pattit disgraceful act. Its happening quite a bit. Such dating is worse than non-amritdharis dating. I have observed lots of dating happens at deraas or at some rainnsubayees or other crowded smagams in Punjab and I feel people who do such dating, their legs shud be broken and their faces shud be blackened.

<< even if the head is cut the dumalla would not open ... even if by some last chance dumalla is opened kess would not get upon because of bunga >>> pyare veer, truly great answer. Veer jeeooo, I guess there are some dumalla saloks too that nihung singhs read before tying dumalla. Where can I get these saloks ???