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Excuse me? Thanks for the generalisation. Neither are bad! It's just idiots within both religions. Please don't say Muslims are bad - I resent that as a peaceful Muslim myself. I think you got wrong meaning of my post, what i ment was that irrespective of religion when you get extremist people who are intolerant or ignorant about other religions people you get these sort of attacks. You have cases of muslims persecuting hindus in majority muslim countries (afghanistan, pakistan and bangledesh) and you get cases of muslims persecuted in majority hindu country of india. So what i was implying in my post is that persecution happens to all people of faith. Not all hindus are bad and not all muslims are bad. I was indirectly trying to make that point to sarpanch.

ok, doesnt to have made a big impact ive never heard of this film. But judging from the trailer doesnt seem like much of a movie, probably worth viewing if nothing else is on.

Hindu's and muslims are bad as each other when these type of matters are concerned, you'll find just as many if not more hindu's murdered in places like pakistan and bangledesh. When you get people who are intolerant and ignorant of each other this is the awful result.

is it already out?

If you look at the pics of darbar sahib and now compared to late 19th century, you can see marked difference. Even in 1970s i've seen pictures of darbar sahib which looks more spiritual place than it does now. It's too touristy and commercialised, too many non-sikhs go there not to get in touch with their spiritual side or pay respect, and reverance but to tick off on their list of places to see while in punjab/india.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a orcle of knowledge. Just reading a few stanza's and you cant help but feel reassured about this world and the afterlife.

Let it all play out, end of the day if exposure is done then thats good because those who think they can hide their antics and pretend to be Sikh the truth will come out one day or later and ruin their reputation. If there are innocent girls getting exposed then karma will play out and that muslim guy will soon realise why it wasnt such a good idea creating such websites.

I got the video's removed. I warned him if he continued to mock the shaheeds of Sikhism and Sant Bhindranwale in that manor i would get his account suspended. But I think his apologetic reply is geniune and sincere. We should let him be, and concentrate on other things.

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Whats changed? that policy was implemented back in 2004 i think effecting sikh kids. It's not ban on turban outside the educational system. France is a athiest state so called secular state. But i think they, the french govt, had no choice to ban other religious garbs in classrooms if they didnt want islamic fundamtalists accuse them of double standards. The muslim parents were increasingly making their girls wear hijabs in france, which was growing trend and threatens to segregate muslims from non-muslims. Either way france will lose out in the long term to islamization because of french based muslim immigrant communities have more babies per household than more prosperous athiest white french men and women.They are scared to tackle political islam so dance around the issue by banning all religious garbs from educational institutions, when the problem lies with only islam and its political agenda.

Yes there riots in punjab mostly back in 1930s and 1946 (around the time the demand for pakistan was more vocal). The most serious and pro longed outbreak of communal riots were in 1947 when the british administation had drawn up final plans to divide india. Seems like the old strategy of divide and conquer didnt go quite to plan, as now british created islamic pakistan and its ex-patriots are more trouble to the united kingdom in terms of national secruity and socio-political co-hesion and integration than any other nation on earth. 3 of the 4 london suicide bombers were of pakistani origin. Alot of terror training camps (in balakot-kashmir, nwfp) are located in pakistan where british muslims have been going to and getting training from since early 90s to recently. Pakistan can be seen the play ground/haven for anti-westerm fundamentalist islamic jihadi's or agent provactuers (ie british muslims in the pay of the UK govt to carry out subversive activities in the UK or aboard to further a political agenda).

We should help those who are in lost in a world of nashaa and maya, if they reject your help then so be it. This life is not forever, that what true sikhs should remember everyday.

Excellent article. The british establishment created pakistan to rule over part of india, thinking they would have control over the simple "mohammadans" and control of the geo-political strategic area by establishing the ISI for pakistan govt. The terrorism thats going on in Pakistan and India some is geniune groups who are home grown fighting for seperatist causes wheres you get others who have no clear agenda but just want to harm both countries economic interests and spread fear in the general civilian population, I would say those kind of people are criminals in the pay of other economic powers. Alot of dark op majori terrorism acts lead back to agent provocateur's (ie bin laden) who are in the pay of intelligence agencies of western governments. The average everyday person on the street has no knowledge of goes on behind the shadows of power, so simpley believes what the mainstream media and government tells them.

It's within all religions, believe me. But i think in a society where there are no moral restrictions and its a selfish culture then some girls will be raised in that environment or get influenced to partake in negative aspects of a free society. It usually is down to the family and friends she has. If a gal respects her families honour and her parents because they love and support her then she is less likely to want to go againt their wishes and get drawn into posing half naked in clubs, drinking, smoking, shaving sex before marriage. If on the other hand you got parents who couldnt care less and always putting down the child then she is more likely to get drawn to bad influences. So education and influence starts at home first, it lays the foundation of how your kids will think and behave.

No there should be no insulting jokes on any religion that is my point, how and when did it become acceptable for Indian hindu and muslims to make "sardarji" jokes. I'm sure they wouldnt take too kindly if jokes were made about their community and circulated everywhere, so why the indian hindus and muslims feel its acceptable to make jokes about sardars and the Sikh community as a whole. Thats my question.

why was it acceptable to tell anti-sikh jokes in india? Why arent their jokes on hindu's who are the majority, why not on muslims who are the 2nd largest community in india. Why have sardars as a whole been singled out and mocked. I dont see any anti-hindu or anti-muslim or anti-chrisitian jokes being circulated around the net by indians. So why is it acceptable for them to abuse Sikhs in such manor, how can indian sikhs tolerate such racist jokes by other communities of India? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardarji_jokes

Inter racial relationships (non-sexual) between Sikhs is ok. If things become serious between the female and male sikh partner then best to get married. As for falling in being with someone of a different religion that is against sikhi because our only attachment and love should be to our lord waheguru, when shaheeds of Sikhism were cut to pieces they only remembered the name of the lord in true love and they embraced marytrdom without any care of this world, that is the love we need to have for our lord. He is everything and everyone. But as humans we are weak if we need to fall in love with someone it should be of the same religion and ideally should be your husband/wife who who are intending to spend the rest of your life with.

Sarpanch, have you forgotten how to get people's videos removed? lol Looks like i'll have to do the honours and get the video's removed!!! btw i dont think bharat2hindus is a hindu i believe he is a pakistani muslim trying to play sikhs and hindu's against each because he had an account before attacking sikhs in the same way and mocking sikh girls as slags. There seems to be a group of pakistani muslim guys from uk to usa and canada trying to mock sikhs, while the hindu's mock the shaheeds of khalistan. The alimoh id on youtube is a hindu for sure, I'll leave you guys to take care of him. I'll deal with bharat2hindus.

It's shameful to let a member of congress and gandhi dynsty to come to our holiest shrine who has done nothing for Sikhs, yet congress terrorist members who butchered innocent Sikh cilviians in 1984 are still given shelter and support by the leadership. Indian Congress terrorist party and the gandhi family will always be seen as enemies of Sikhs until they prove otherwise.

Whats so bad about that video ?It exposes it don't mock no one or make fun of any belief,I think many would agree with me that these videos on exposing the RSS have done more good than bad,they can;t take they are being exposed fact for fact so they resort to making insulting videos on us Sikhs Expose the terror antics of RSS, VHP, Bajranj Dal, Shiv Sena all you like but when you lump all hindu's together into one group and start to attack them on youtube videos and comments then your making a big mistake. Your creating more trouble for yourself, Sikhs and the idea of khalistan. You keep forgetting that majority of converts to Sikhism come from hinduism, and many hindu converts to Sikhism have been our greatest hero's (ie banda singh bahadur)... keep that in mind next time create a video because there willl be a ignorant hindu out there who is like you, who will respond by attacking and mocking sant bhindranwale and our shaheeds for khalistan. Your strategy is all wrong, you need to reach out to hindu's instead of alienating them.

You dont show truth when you make videos like this. You are more of a khalistan nationalist than a Sikh. Be a Sikh first then think about khalistan, you cant have a khalistan exclusive of hindu's that goes against Sikh ideology of being pularistic.

You need to do the copyright thingy on those video's, I got the paki muslim guys video's and account deleted through it. I suggest some of you who like to stir stuff against hindu's and posting stuff that has anti hindu material seeing hindu's react and uploading anti-khalistan material. So if your clever you'll learn to work with hindu's rather than abuse them and create more enemies for the khalistan cause.

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It is disgusting and shameful how these cowards go around beating or killing fellow sikhs in punjab who disagree on some issues yet they do not have the balls to kill anti-sikh terrorists like kps gill, tytler, brar, sanj kumar. It shows the level of cowardness, stupidness and village mentality some members of the radical organisations have in punjab... their actions and thinking is no better than the anti-sikh terrorists ive listed.