Kaljug Singh

Fateh! Why don't we just ignore all of our history that disagrees with your understanding of Gurbani? In fact, why don't we just ignore history completely since Gurbani says nothing about dinosaurs, Christopher Columbus, or whatever. Regards, K.

Fateh! Singh, hold an Akhand Path at your house, and ask as many Singhs as you know to attend. Request that they all wear banay, dastaar or dumallay with sarbloh shastar, and let them all be shastardhari. Do ardaas and ask Maharaj to protect you and your family, and to destroy the malechh. When bhog is conducted on Sunday (these lovely peace-loving Muslims will likely be around at that time), shout jaikaray as loud as you can. Let them know that you are not alone. Make sure to have at least one Singh watching the cars to make sure that they do not vandalise them. If they then talk crap (which is pretty much the only thing your average Pakistani Mirpuri scum can do) ... well, then do whatever you must. Regards, K.

Fateh! Surely not! Muslims are such nice people, and to believe otherwise is obviously Islamophobia! /sarcasm Regards, K.

He should be given some type of comedian award I wonder what animals Muslims eat then that makes them marry and rape girls as young as age 9? The man is an ignorant bandar whose arguments impress only Muslims who have yet to develop a mind of their own. He likes to consider himself a scholar after becoming a second-class Arab when he completed his "education" in Saudi, but he is more of a showman than anything else. Except for Muslims of course who believe that if an underfed monkey man tells you something, it must be true. Regards, K.

Fateh! Let's differentiate between strategy and outright deceit first. Some common examples of strategy in MMA for example are: - feint (pretend to strike in order to determine a reaction from your opponent then use the opening to strike) - aim high, strike low (or look kight but strike low) - throw a jab at the opponents face then, when he raises his guard, go for a single-leg or double-leg takedown - lower your guard to tempt your opponent to strike at your head, then go under his strike to take his legs out from under him - more generally, fake an opening and use your anticipation of the opponents attack to dodge and counterattack - when you are tired, hold on to the opponent in the clinch and tire him down by resting your full weight against him - when you are in the mount but the opponent is resisting, cover his mouth with your hand to restrict his breathing - when you are on the ground with your opponent, turn his head or cover his eyes to attack without him knowing what you are about to do These are all acceptable skills that make one a martial artist rather than an unskilled opponent relying on strength and luck alone to win the battle. Examples of strategy in warfare include: - the use of camouflage to hide your position - the use of guerrilla warfare against a numerically superior force (the preferred method of Sikh jathas against Mughals) - psychological intimidation (wearing towering boongas, banging swords against shields to create a loud noise, use of battle cries like "Sat Sri Akal") - ambush - timing The use of timing in warfare include: - attacking the night before the enemy is ready - attacking the night after the enemy has heavily fortified his position (the soldiers are going to be exhausted) - attacking before the enemy patrol returns so that the enemy soldiers in the camp confuse the noises you make with the noise they are expecting from the returning patrol - the night after the enemy has sustained heavy losses (harrying the retreat) - the night before the enemy counterattacks (making use of the anxiety of the enemy troops as they anticipate the following day's battle) - the night after a seige has been lifted (taking advantage of the enemy's relaxation) - the night when the enemy is struck by plague, sickness, or some other calamity - the night after the enemy has been wearied by a long and fruitless combat (making use of the enemy's exhaustion and frustration to further dishearten them) - the night after the enemy is celebrating a victory (taking the enemy by surprise) All of these strategies have been used in warfare since organised warfare began. Perhaps this discussion would be more fruitful if we stopped talking about these Hindu deities and thought about what war strategies are approved of by Gurmat thought and the example of Sikh history. Yes, the ultimate reason for the victories of the Khalsa Panth is Akal Purakh's and Guru Ji's bachan, but to believe that Sikhs had no understanding of battle strategy and warfare is to belittle the achievements of our ancestors. Any takers? I have only started reading about Sikh battle strategy, so don't have much to contribute alas. Regards, K.

Steeks by Taksali students of Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji and Sant Kartar Singh Ji: http://www.scribd.com/people/documents/136...7efw3x5e2ufqjci (Thanks to Matheen veer ji on SikhAwareness.com for these) Regards, K.

I may be wrong, but I believe that was a typo on the part of the poster and should have read "not all Hindus are bad". That would make most sense given the rest of the content of the message. Regards, K.

Fateh! Like their co-religionists elsewhere in the world, the Chinese Uighir cannot tolerate living in a country with infidels. They don't just want an independent state, they want an independent MUSLIM state. The Chinese are not castrated by issues of human rights for terrorist scum and tolerance for the intolerant, they will wipe these people out. And good riddance. K.

Fateh! They are puratan jung traditions used to inspire bir ras, same as the Nihang nugda practice. What kind of actual reason are you looking for? Such rituals are not used to have a religious or spiritual effect (i.e., Nihangs don't believe that the nugda ritual has some inherent magical quality that will result in the enemy miraculously dying) as this would be against Gurmat, but they are used to focus and prepare the minds of all those involved to destroy the enemy in jung. It's for a similar reason that targets painted in the uniform of enemy soldiers were used in bayonet and shooting practices in both World Wars and in others up until modern, more liberal PC times. The enemy soldier didn't die when the target was stabbed or shot, but it made him much more likely to be killed by a soldier who was used to putting bayonets or bullets in cardboard images that looked like him. Soldiers in modern times also have marching songs in which they denigrate or make fun of the enemy - the effect is that it boosts troop morale. It's the same in Nihang Dals when they recite their traditional bolis when throwing the nugda or chatkaing something. There are many other practices in puratan Sikhi that have their basis in India's warrior culture that will not make sense if one tries to understand their spiritual value, simply because they are meant for the preparation of Jungee Khalsa in wartime rather than for the general spiritual advancement of a Gursikh living in more relaxed, peaceful times. That doesn't mean that such practices are outdated however - they can still be practiced to inspire bir ras to defeat internal enemies that beset one on one's spiritual path. Regards, K. Nope. Bali is sacrifice offered to a Devi or Devata. Sikhs are forbidden to engage in such practices due to the taboo against worshipping the creations of Karta Purakh. Sikhs are also forbidden to eat any animal offered in bali sacrifice for the same reason that we are forbidden to eat halaal meat. The coconut that is chatkaed is not an offering, neither is a chatka goat an offering. K.

Fateh! You can find a list in this older thread about Ugardanti: http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=39587&st=0 Regards, K.

Fateh! Streamed movies: www13.alluc.org www.surfthechannel.com fastpasstv.com http://tv.blinkx.com/movies You can download movies (and other things besides) on rapidshare. You don't have to download any P2P programs. Regards, K.

As far as I know, the Sodhak Committee just chose the banis that were common to most of the puratan birs of Dasam Granth. Ugardanti is found in only one puratan bir of Dasam Granth. Regards, K.

Fateh! Let me just say, the my previous post was not supposed to be a condemnation of any Singhs in particular, or even Sikhs in general. The point is that a rehatvaan Amritdhari keshdari Sikh should lead by example - Sikhs don't go around converting people, and the only reason that Sikhs become Singhs is because they have the good fortune of having sangat of these ideal Sikhs. Your dastaar, daara and 5 kakaar should be outward signs of an inward glory - your example should inspire others to follow in your footsteps. If you want non-Sikhs to be influenced by Sikhi, it's not going to happen if you refuse their sangat or become judgemental and intolerant in their presence. That kind of behaviour just turns people off. That doesn't mean you have to approve of their behaviour which is unSikh, or, for example, go to pubs with them and hope that your presence will make them uncomfortable enough that it will prevent them from drinking. All you really have to do is explain why Sikhs should not drink alcohol and that a Sikh chooses to partake of a form of intoxication that lasts forever and does not result in a hangover. You should not only tell them this, your personality should show this is the case - it should be obvious from your personality that you do not have to rely on alcohol to be confident, courageous, sociable, witty, successful and comfortable in your own skin and at peace with yourself. If you refuse to engage with people who have not been blessed with Guru's kirpa, you display your superiority complex and people are made to feel inferior and insulted with the result that they will keep a distance - from you and from Sikhi in general. If you condemn people with your judgemental attitude, you give the impression that Sikhs and Sikhi despises and abominates weak people who cannot uphold rehat - with the result that people avoid you and learning about Sikhi. If you refuse to help someone in trouble, whether they are being physically abused or just in need of someone to listen to them, simply because they do not have Sikhi roop or behave in unSikh-like ways, you make Sikhs look cowardly and lacking in compassion. Not everyone is at the same level in their Sikhi - some are just beginning their journey, some have already arrived at their destination, others are taking a break at a reststop, and a few have been distracted off the path by shiny things they find on the way. Some simply have a different understanding of Sikhi because their avastha is not the same as yours, and some follow rehat which may be odds with your interpretation of Gurbani or the rehat that you yourself follow. Yet, you sit (or have sat) with all of these people in the langar hall of your gurdwara - why should it be any different outside? If you are committed to Sikh unity (and not to dividing the Panth according to caste/rehat maryada/jatha/keshdari-sehajdhari/chatka-veg/amritdhari-nonamritdhari/whatever), it is in your hands and yours alone to carry over the equality and acceptance you feel for others in the langar hall in to the larger world outside the Gurdwara. Regards, K.

Fateh! That wasn't really a conversation, that was just you taking a dig at Nihang maryada. If you have a problem with sukhnidaan, don't take it. It's that simple. If you don't agree with chatka, or shikaar, or Dasam Granth, or Sarbloh Ganth, that's all good too - there's lots of space in Sikhi for Sattvic-oriented Sants who would prefer to achieve mukti in this lifetime in the easiest way possible without having to go to war, or suffer the pangs of hunger, or the adrenalin surge of jung, or the agony of physical wounds. If you choose to ignore history and pretend that all Sikhs have always been Vaisnavite pacifist tree-huggers who lived solely on badaam and paneer in jung, and didn't need painkillers or medication to relax fraught nerves and pre-fight anxiety because they could cure wounds and reattach limbs with the power of Naam alone, that's fine too. Just don't twist gurbani to prove your own point of view. Akali Baba Nihal Singh Jinda Shahid, Jathedar of Harianbela Dal will be in the UK shortly. Go and speak to him if you want to know the history of Sukha and other puratan Sikh maryada. Regards, K.

Fateh! From some of the comments on this thread, I get the impression that some of you would watch a Sikh get beaten, his dastaar abused, and his beliefs ridiculed unless you knew for certain that he: didn't drink, didn't smoke, had never trimmed his beard, never plucked a stray eyebrow hair, believed (or disbelieved - delete as appropriate) in ragmaala being bani, was a lacto-ovo-vegetarian, was Amritdhari (but only if he took amrit from AKJ/DDT/other - delete as appropriate), believed in kesh/keski being kakaar, and woke up every amritvela without fail. Furthermore, I feel that some of you would even feel smug and superior about displaying such cowardice. If you don't believe that monay, trim Singhs, alcohol-drinking meat-eating Punjabis of Sikh ancestry, are not real Sikhs, show them the way by standing up and defending these people when necessary, even if you really feel that they are so inferior to you that merely eating food from their hands will pollute your divine presence. I have monay Punjabi friends who would risk injury and even death to protect dastaar and daara of a Sikh they saw being attacked and bullied, because they have that much respect for Guru's gifts. The fact that they are not yet ready to take amrit themselves is a matter that is between them and God, but I would prefer them as friends than some of the Amritdhari Sikhs I have met, on this forum and in real life, who have become so conceited after receiving Guru's gift that they consider even their rank cowardice to be a virtue. Regards, K.

We are Sikhs, Singh, not baamans worried about ritual pollution. K.

Is it worth $205? If so, there is a copy available on amazon.com now. K.

How reliable is the book? Does it reference any primary (or even secondary) sources when it describes the kind of warfare in which these puratan jungee Khalsa were engaged? Thanks, K.

What? Are the mods reading and moderating PMs? That's out of order! K.

Fateh! How can a Sikh watch another Sikh's dastaar being disrespected without acting? How can a Sikh watch another Sikh being attacked without coming to his defence? On a personal level, one should sit down and decide in advance what action one would take in such circumstances so that one acts with firm conviction at the time. This doesn't mean that you must fight a gang of cowards by yourself, it could just mean that you will find a safe place and call the police and then tell the gang (from a safe distance) that the police are on the way. It is a good idea also to sit down with one's family and friends to come to an agreement about what one should do when faced with these kind of situations, before they actually occur, so that there is no indecision or hesitation when they happen. If, as in the case of the OP, you are with older or vulnerable family members, agree beforehand that they should leave and either go home or to a nearby safeplace so that you do not have to worry about them. It's essential that they are able to act quickly without spending precious time thinking about whether they should stay and help. If your more vulnerable family members or friends have previously come to the decision that they will become involved also, decide how to best go about this without getting in each others' way. For example, in the situation described by the OP, the grandfather could have left to find a policeman (cops will act a little faster if you tell them that you think someone has been stabbed), while the OP engaged the crowd in conversation. If you think you would engage physically in such circumstances, you had better be prepared mentally and physically beforehand, because the chaos of real physical combat is not the place to learn whether you have the guts to hurt/mutilate/kill someone or whether you can take a punch. Regards, K.

Fateh! This video has been discussed before. If you ever visit this place, drink at the "untouchables" door, then go drink at the "high caste" door. If these people whine, give them a smack, drag them in front of Maharaj's bir and ask the granthi to read the relevant shabads in Guru Granth Sahib in which the caste system was abolished. Sooner or later, they will get the point or will have too many bruises to dare to stop anyone drinking at either door. This has nothing to do with the recent Ravidassi/Sikh debacle, despite some trying to blame it on caste. That was either a result of the Ravidassi Sant doing beadbi, or an internal issue within the community, or something else altogether - there are conflicting opinions and it's best to wait until we know the real truth which will eventually be released by the Austrian police. (By Ravidassi I mean Hindu worshippers of Bhagat Ravidas not Sikhs of some particular non-existent caste.) Regards, K.

Fateh! So, under what circumstances would you personally make use of your kirpan? K.

Fateh! Nice seva and a good opportunity for Sikhi to be shared with the injured soldiers. Perhaps it would be a good idea to get the sangat at your local gurdwara to donate a few things. Include a letter, signed by sangat who want to help, describing who Sikhs are, what we believe, and the Sikh ideal of charitable giving. Maybe send a photograph of the sangat so that the soldiers who have been injured in combat realise that not all people wearing turbans and sporting darees are the same. I think I might do just that myself. Regards, K.

Fateh! :lol: 1. Fly 2. Fly poo 3. :o K.

Fateh! To those who question the actions of the Gursikh who prevented beadbi of Darbar Sahib from happening: when else are you going to draw your kirpan if it is not to defend the holiest shrine of Sikhi? Yes, it would certainly have been better from a PR perspective if the drunk had beaten with the Sangat's juttiya instead - especially given that this fool had been told not to enter Darbar Sahib in his condition once before being stopped trying to enter from anothed door (thus showing that he was thinking rationally and not drunk out of his mind) - but no Sikh should be questioning the sincerity and the pyaar of the one who stopped this drunk from disrespecting the sanctity of Harimandir Sahib. This is the third time in a year that we are reading of some moorakh trying to disrespect Sikhi in its holiest of holies. If this action had been taken the first time, perhaps we would not be reading about this attempt now. Let us hope that this event inspires fear in those who previously thought that they could freely disrespect Sikhi in its holiest place without fear of reprisal. And to those who are concerned that this event will result in Sikhs being portrayed as fundamentalist extremists and terrorists, get this through your heads: the media already believes that this is the case; there will be no journalist who will be allowed to congratulate Sikhs for demonstrating this respect for their Holiest Temple. You can bet your bottom dollar that, had this occurred in the Vatican, the guy who stopped the drunk from entering a church or cathedral would have been hailed as a hero in the press and the Pope would have declared him a Saint within a week. Regards, K.