DesiVibe

any taus kirtan online?

hmm

im surprised he had the nerve to come to europe

i agree

very very sorry to hear about your brother and i guess its more harder to swallow as he was an amritdhari. Although i agree with what most people say and it is a big thing, but maybe we need to accept one of the hardest things can and will happen. We cant cut off with our immediet families that is still ur veer thats your brother you grew up with and still probably feels close to you. Telling him off or reminding him will make him more distant to you. just show him love, n tell him to keep the love for his faith even with cut kes and recite bani and still jap nam. im sure that will still give him something than him thinking ive cut my hair now so all religion means nothing. At least he will have a base, somewhere he can always come to when hes fed up of the maya world and find refuge in. I know some monai from sada panjab who get up at 1am and start nam jappin and recite bani and dont go near meat or eggs or shraab. Now thats gotto be better than cutting across the line never to return. phanji im very very sorry and my words wont do near enough to what your going through i hope you stay in high spirits. Mums and dads dont worry, its the way it is my family arent perfect either. We can only sort ourselves out and tell someone if their wrong. But try not to think about it instead do ardas nam jap and do bani and keep your family encouraged towards that path whatever else they do hats or kes issue. u stay strong as steel, sister in mind thought and jeevan yet caring as a mother loves her child. Keep the bro sis relationship tight always hel soon realise how false the world is and hel not find that warmth, welfare love anywhere else but in the sikh panth. st ay in chardi kala, god loves you he loves your family whatever happened was meant to be its how we deal with it now.

whats the current sikh population in panjab right now? if they continue moving from india to the west whats gonna be left? the whole of the douahb region is emptieing of sikhs and filled with biharis immigrant gujjars. Thats one out of 3 regions of punjab. last time i went amritsar it was dead i didnt even see dastara locally except for the 20 odd sevedars, chal maybe it was my rotten luck i dunno, but i gotto say ludhiana and delhi rock with singhs pagha hee pagha. loadsa hoshiarpur sikhs are chipping out to the west too. so how we gonna get khalistan when the numbers go down?

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balley tereh drawof siyyah. ur shaheed bhagat singhs jis relativ can you share some more stuff about him please? thats inspiring to know he did simran in his life. so then he cudnt have been athiest huna? i read from bhai sahib rrandhir singhs autobiography when i was 18 thats where i picked up he had kes, but either way mona ya amritdhari what he spent and gave his life for i always respect. is it ok for me to ask what shaheed bhagat singh jis last words were? stay in touch singh ji and its always good to hear what our veerjis were like back in the days how they lived their selfless lives. i also heard that the film that was made about him was wrong he didnt have a love life, now did he never date out of principles? was shaheed sukdev ji and shaheed rajguru ji sikh too? jus curious prahji

when yo read the letters of these great freedom fighters shaheed madan lal dingra ji shaheed udham singh ji shaheed kartar singh ji etc those letters were bloody mindblowing, they thought they were dieing for a sacred cause. It kind of hurts that the way india is in comparison to what the shaheeds died for. eventhough i personally believe he kept kes I couldnt careless if bhagat singh had hair on his head or not hes one hell of a man who sacrificed his life for a cause and i respect him mona or otherwise.

well if his sister maintained he was an athiest and never met bhai sahib then why would he grow his kes if he didnt believe in god? he certainly didnt die with that cowboy hat on his head

If im not mistaken wasnt zaffarwal the one who gave out the call for khalistan from akhal takhat in 1986? was he part of the panj pyarey then? some of them are dead i think can anyone please enlighten me? I have also heard how some ex leaders would drum up the janta in panjab to take up guns but when it came to their own sons no way. From what i have seen in my own country a lot of sikhs feel let down by khalistani politics.

and also having connections is one thing even if he himself was the most senior akali dal person around, with someone of that track record why would the gov spare him when they didnt spare any other sikh militant? i mean here we are talking about one of the topmost people of that time period. There have been countless rich affluent gursikhs who also went into the movement but the gov once hunted them would wipe them out, thats why im surprised zaffarwal one the leading guys is standing inside the crocadiles mouth. Wasnt sant jarnail one of the most influential people around in his day? yet the gov were all arms to get him and zaffarwal one of the most wanted is jus left alone. I think theres more than SAD connections. If im not mistaken zaffarwals name appeared on the burning punjab website alongside jagjit singh chauhan some 5 years ago.

one thing puzzles me "The man whose name used to spell terror during the Dark Decade today refuses to discuss the past. " ‘‘Those were different times. When I used to ask people to bend, they used to crawl. It was dictatorship and my word was their command.’’ if he had a supreme anti india writ, then how comes balbir singh bains a british sikh family man was kept in jail beaten tortured for 4 years whilst mr zaffarwal a known seperatist leader who doesnt hide his activities or what he did for the khalistan movement is walking free, dallyin for politics raj? doesnt this seem weird? dont you think theres more to it than a deal cut accros a closed door? why would the same gov spare mr zaffarwal? Im starting to have my doubts about khalistani leaders.

yeh theres a lot of decent hearted pakistanis out there. Indian gov at the time did what it did for power and the bania brahmin nexus is actually ruthless and played on chaunakyas rules, i would request readers to have a look at the punjab justice article that reveals indras plans for sikhs were linked to her own failures the morchas launched by sikhs from darbar sahib made waves in india and destablised her opinion further. However the powers of the president gyani zail singh really make me think Who was more powerful her or him? pakistan at least shows some respect and courtesy.

ur right it doesnt, but it sure does affect amritdhari youth coming from minority castes when they wanna get married after taking amrit whos going to take responsibility for them? times have changed from 100 years ago family networks , now its mainly jathas, taksals, dehras, dals that are keepin in sikhi, so youth turn towards these. Sadly one group is dominated by one jaat or the next ie nihung dals mazhabis, taksals and jathas malwai landowner peasants, sant dehras in england african sikhs. How many sikhs do you know that will follow the hukam to marry a Sikh regardless of any particular group? so theres a problem. I recall in one of bhai kulbir singhs posts some years ago how rehetvaan gursikhs were refused rishte because of their caste. So breaking from jaat paat is too far a shot when people r too into it, instead you need an intermediate shot. The problem is further created by different lifestyles clashing which then leaves us with another option to balance even numbers out that helps people get into sikhi and not have future problems. There is a difference to looking at this ideologically and reality whats going on. I have seen countless people from minorities turn back and some of them are now ex amritdharis. I certainly do not feel its right to judge someone as weak as we would not know unless we stood in their shoes. admin veerji writes "Since caste has nothing to do with Sikhi, these topics will not be discussed. A Sikh is given Hukam to marry a Sikh regardless of any particular group. What matters is Gursikhi lifestyle. "