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Sunny I think you may start reading some political philosophy related to John Locke, Thomas Jefferson and the American Revolution and also read up on the Iranian revolution which engendered a Theocratic state. Also dont forget history of Guru Hargobind Jee and his micro-governance. You have the right questions but no one can give you the answers unless you inquire into it yourself.

Brother you are so right about this point that someday we will realize how childish we were in thinking about worldly things. One must began by inquiring within their self instead looking for something corporeal in the world. I feel there is this age when we try to find a goal to lean on yet we don't deliberate on those goals. Some people remain and never change nor care to think within and always rely on what they see and feel. A lot of youngsters online who I relate to when I was young with a peevish attitude towards many issues. I think this seems to be a phase we all must experience and come out of it and hopefully realize what needs to be realized. Revolutions aren't just radical ideas, Revolutions are violent and requires blood. Name me one peaceful revolution that underwent a non-violent transmutation. Again we cannot teach anyone what SIKHI is, it has been laid out in the SGGS and we all must not read it like a ritual but understand the depth of its meaning and must use it for everyday life. what use is reading the SGGS if we dont it? Practical experience leads to many good paths. I hope we all have a good journey with whatever experiences we are facing or will face in the future.

Please this is a child's dream of attaining a sovereign nation without blood. The truth is, it is a historical fact, that no one has gained freedom without sacrificing blood. History has yet to experience alteration. I have read about KOSOVO and there are still thousands of orphan kids whose parents were killed in extra-judicial killings by Serbian militias and some were caught in cross fighting. Even til today the serbian claim KOSOVO as part of their nation. There was so much bloodshed especially due to the NATO intervention that you will still see the bloody signs today in KOSOVO. Surely KOSOVO may claim their independence but it still is one of the corrupted and unstable nations in the world. Drug and women trafficking is very common for the KOSOVON people in order to win bread for their family. Anyway, my point, is independence may lead to another nation like KOSOVO. The international community cannot do much, unless there is a unrest in a community and there is enough bloodshed. If such conditions exist and I believe it is the perfect pretext to wage war for independence. The middle eastern uproars are completely different from the present Sikh/Punjab conditions. Currently Punjab is not faced with economic distraction nor with social inconsistencies, therefore it becomes tedious to find a fault in the governance of GOI. Plus, 1984 has turned into an old blood stain and wont evoke much feelings of patriotism among the Punjabi Sikhs. My suggestion for the Sikhs is to collaborate with all Punjabis, including Hindus, muslims, christians and find a common fault in the governance of India in order to began a war of independence. Remember Unity is everything when it comes to war and it will become hard for Indian forces to control all punjabis whereas if Sikhs fight alone it will be much easier to subdue them, like they have done in the awake of 1984.

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I agree with GPS that the Naxalite movement was interdependent on Sikh or Punjabi jathabandi's in Punjab to carry out propaganda and their socio-economic agenda. The communist idea is not something new in Punjab, in fact it is very common for the university student in Punjab (even today) to come across Bhagat Singh and his influence from the Bolshevik Revolution and various text by Lenin and Mao. One of the main reasons for Naxalite failure in Punjab was the ideological shift from the initial adoptation of the west bengal movement (To start a Revolution and a complete turnover of the current political and social conditions in order to set a stage for socialism) in to something different. The naxalite leadership in Punjab began to initiate peaceful dialogues, which is very anti-communist. When the Naxalites were enforcing their agrarian policies in a lot of the villages in Punjab by killing the landlords and distributing land, a division occurred in west bengal which I believe affected the Punjab leadership of the naxalites as well. So, the vitality of the west bengal leadership weakend due to some ideological differences and mostly because of selfish leaders which affected every other naxalite movement. The Naxalites faded away from the scene completely as an independent entity by the 1980s by emerging with the Akalis. Although there were stil many communist elements in the ananpur resolution if one reads it or the Sikh movement itself. I must disagree with Neverforget84dotcom when he generalizes the Atheist being the black cats, whereas the truth is almost 90% of the cats were Sikhs. Once again this is not the point I am wanting to discuss, I believe Punjab can survive as an independent nation without the help of India. I hope to write a paper on why Punjab or any nation has the right to secede and through what methods. Punjab is a very interesting location for a revolution due to its diversity of problems shared by all Punjabis whether hindu, sikh or muslim or atheist. Again I hope we can all read more about Communism and especially about Mao Zedong or just read political philosophy in general. Just because communism aspires a atheistic bases for their agenda does not mean Sikhs cannot edit some of the elements in order to suit their revolution. Mao Zedong brought a new communism to his china, where the peasantry would overthrow the government and THE RUSSIANS WERE LAUGHING. History has spoken that Mao succeeded and brought the Russian Communists to their knees and I believe Religious Communalism can work. We dont even have to call it communism if it bothers us that much. But only a political movement will succeed in Punjab, although I cannot overlook the possibility of an religious overthrow which was a fiasco in the past.

I think I can agree on some of the points highlighted below. The Manpreet guy seems to be someone who will end up going back to the badal dal and it seems as if it is a political stunt by the akalis to gain some sort of attention (God knows what). I must say, that a new political movement is needed in Punjab and it could be a democratic socialist movement...it does not have to be in the hands of the communists, nonetheles all policies must be relative to the agrarian reform and political cleansing (must keep religious disagreement at a distance). A agrarian support will take a aggressive stand against Badal and the central government because even in many parts of India people are struggling with land reforms. Especially among dalit and adivasi communities who are offered land, yet nothing.

You are mistaken COMMUNISM is a Socio-economic ideology, not just an economic theory. If Mao Zedong could have his own version of communism, so could the religious people. You just answered yourself, how religion could be part of communism.

I must agree with one of the posts above that communist movement or a political movement is most like to succeed in Punjab rather than a religious movement. We as Sikhs are so ignorant of Communist Ideology that we overlook some of the great things it offers. Religious Communism is a great platform for Punjab and especially when all religions aspire after the ethical fruits of individual actions. Even Bhai Sahib Bhai Sukhdev Singh Babbar read lenin's interpretation of Marx and Engels ideas on effective revolutions. Communism was very popular among the farmers in punjab during the 60s and 70s without a doubt. Russia was a totalitarian regime. It was not even a socialist economy, far away from communism. Have you read anything on Cuba and its economic growth with the trade embargo? wow. Che Guevara was a revolutionarya and he died a revolutionary. Yes, Harkishan singh Surjeet was the head of the communist party. You dont have to be an ATHEIST to be a communist, although that is what Marx wanted but who is following Marxism-Communism anyway, right? haha

Dont post anymore and dont worry about the girl. she will find someone else. Go ahead experience life in serving saints and find for yourself. Dont waste too much time posting online, it will only alter your decision in to marrying and not doing anything you think you would do. So good luck!!

ha perfect reply.

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so what if muslims take over the continent of europe.....i mean they are people like us, just with few more kids lol.

yeh Hitler was pretty darn good. Then Otto Bismarck, Julius Caesar, Fidel Castro, mao zedong, Vo giap, Robert E. lee, Ghenghis Khan, oliver cromwel, Napoleon the first and many more..