Japnaam Singh

Our parrot could say "Vaaheguroo"

Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh! Every situation requires a unique response. I vote "No". There should be a selection of choices that is flexible and fitting for every situation. For example: Gabroo Khalistan Dah says some things he doesn't mean sometimes; he says them because he gets emotional during some discussions. Everybody who reads this board often, knows that he's still a good guy. Banning him with that new rule would be unjust. Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh!

What a great article. I believe it was written by "r.singh" Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh!

That's true, And almost all of us feel attraction at some point or another, But, as long as we agree that it's not the behavior of a Gursikh, and instead is a human weakness, I think we're Ok.

Falling in love with the person's Sikhi? Why not just use that energy to fall in love with the Guru?

But GKD, The whole foundation of the relationship would be based off of infatuation/crush, etc. Here's a good post I found on the whole topic: This concept of crushes is very very common. If it happens, I won't say "my god, you terrible person...you're going to hell". It happens because of a weakness and it's best to analyse how this happened, and cut the probelm at the root. Most commonly, the reason is curiosity. "Wow, it'd be great to have a bf/gf". It seems like a very attractive option. But honestly, of all the people we see who have bfs/gfs, how many are happy? How many are content? Doesn't the answer automatically lead to the question...then why would I be any happier if I were like them? Another common cause is that the person we have a "crush" on, is a figment of our own imagination. It's not to say that the person doesn't exist, it's to say that what they are in our minds, is not real. I may see "Boy X" from a far and think "wow, he's great...he'd be so kind and listen to me and be such a great person!" when in reality, you know nothing about that person. In such a case, most people tend to have a crush not on a person, but on a concept. And they create a person to fit the concept. Understand what I'm saying? The final test is this: the person I'm obsessing over, if he or she was horribly disfigured, would my feelings change? Be honest with yourself. In most cases they would. Crushes are usually the creation of an idle mind and a sense of boredom. The solution is definitely gurbani and nam and it can also be to occupy yourself with something else in life. That's my take.

How would the Gursikh go about finding a partner without any outside interference? Would he/she base his choices off of infatuation? Probably not since he/she's a Gursikh right? So we've eliminated looks as a way to find a partner. What other criteria is there? Keeping in mind that everyone is his/her brother or sister (a hukam from Guru Sahib that we can't disobey unless blessed with Anand Karaj ceremony) would he go and find out how much rehit each individual girl/guy keeps? I'm guessing this Gursikh would then choose the girl/guy that does the most paatt/simran right? Is that what you have in mind GKD?

I don't think the faults of our parents are good enough to justify going into Manmat. If our parents aren't Gursikhs and aren't able to find a suitable Gursikh partner, then there's always the option of getting something arranged through Gursikh sangat. I've heard of many cases of Gursikhs being born to Manmukh parents. Instead of relying on their parents to find them a partner, the Gursikh's own sangat arranged something.

I don't really want to start a debate on this topic, But yes, Could you imagine a Gursikh having a girlfriend? Do you think Baba Jarnail Singh jee, Bhai Fauja Singh Jee, Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Jee had girlfriends before they were married? What about if you asked them if it was Okay? (to have a girlfriend) Think about it.

No Gabroo Jee. A husband/wife relationship has the blessings of our Guru. It is much different than the whole boyfriend/girlfriend thing we see within our youth today.

What a beautiful post by Kulbir Singh. How could any logical human being go into the whole girlfriend/boyfriend lifestyle when they read posts like this and realize the error of their ways? The whole boyfriend/girlfriend thing and the inability of young Sikhs to truly recognize brother and sister relationships is without a doubt one of the major downfalls of our Sikh Youth in North America and around the world. Japnaam Singh

Pheena, I don't want to comment on the actual topic, But that quote is one of the most irresponsible and faithless things I've ever heard any "Sikh" say. How could there be another Guru Nanak Sahib Jee? Anyone who has proper and real faith in the greatness of our great Guru will never dare to say that there could be "another".

Sandeep Kaur, You say Simran cannot be taught, but what do you base that opinion off of? You also say that people that haven't got naam dhriR are often more spiritual than people who have gotten naam dhriR. That argument can be used to say that since certain people who haven't taken Amrit are more spiritual than certain people who have taken Amrit - Amrit must be useless. Naam dhriR is given by the punj pyaray, i.e. by Guru Sahib, Can Guru Sahib not teach Naam Simran? Is that above Guru Sahib's power and ability?

I've been told by Taksali Singhs that Baba Gurbachan Singh Jee was Sarblohi. They may have been wrong - but I am quite sure that they were atleast Bibeki. (That they only ate from Amrit Dharees) Even if they were not Sarblohi, there are other Taksali Singhs who have practiced this rehit, along with Nihungs and Singhs from other portions of the panth including AKJ. A bibeki is someone who know how to distinguish between right and wrong. Dietary bibek is only one portion of this. About Naam dhriR - After giving our heads to Guru Sahib, we are blessed with Amrit and Naam. Only someone who has given their head to Guru Sahib can experience this.

Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh! Naam DhriR - When the Punj Pyareh (all 5 of them) impart the Gurmanter into the Amrit seeker. The method of Naam Abhyaas is taught here. All Amrit Sanchaars tell the seekers what the Gurmanter is - However, very few Amrit Sanchaars actually teach the exact method. Bibeki - Means a person who knows the difference between right and wrong. This term is often used to refer to dietary bibekis. Dietary bibekis only eat from fellow Amrit Dharees and most of them cook and eat all their meals in Iron (Sarbloh). For example, Singhs like Baba Gurbachan Singh Jee Bhindravale and Bhai Sahib Bhai Randheer Singh Jee were "Sarbloh Bibekis". I believe Baba Jarnail Singh Jee Bhindravale was a "Bibeki", but not a "Sarbloh Bibeki". Japnaam Singh

Bibek means the power to distinguish between right and wrong, There are many types of bibek, Focusing on dietary bibek, One of the main reasonings is that Gursikhs try to keep the same standard for their food as they did in their Amrit Sanchaar, i.e. prepared by Gursikhs in Sarbloh while reciting Gurbaanee or Naam Simran. Other than that, we don't need logical reasons, It's hukam of Guru Sahib and we should strive to follow it, Many Gursikhs in the past were Sarblohi, including Bhai Sahib Bhai Randheer Singh Jee and Baba Gurbachan Singh Jee Bhindravale among countless others.

Good read. This article really points out the historical and Gurbaanee based justifications of dietary bibek.

Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa, Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh! For me it was an old tape of Bhai Sahib Bhai Jeevan Singh Jee, I still have that tape and listen to it whenever I can, The choice of shabads and the way Bhai Sahib brought them together was amazing, The theme of the shabads was about the greatness of Gursikhs, The amount of passion he put into the Keertan was inspiring. Japnaam Singh

Japmans, I'm not sure if I understand what you're trying to say. The difference in why Taksaal says we "should" and why Jatha says it is a "must" is because Jatha considers Keski to be a Kakaar. Taksaal and Jatha have the same viewpoints on the other 4 Kakaars, (i.e. that they are "musts" for Amrit dharee Gursikhs) and since the Jatha considers Keski a Kakaar as well, of course they would request the same standards for that Kakaar as for any other. However, the reasoning behind why Keski is considered a Kakaar is off limits for debate, so we should end this now.

Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh! Bhai Sahib actually does mention it: "After the Ardasa, the Panj Pyaras offer the baptismal water to every novice and impart to him the gurumantram." He mentions this right before the dialogue portion of Chapter 5. Vaaheguroo jee kaa Khaalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee Fateh!

Is that not an insult?? You've attacked the usefulness or hair, suggesting that only temporary scientific conclusions should be the basis for keeping or cutting hair, instead of having faith in our religion. Please be more sensitive to the teachings of our Gurus. The spiritual reasons behind keeping hair aren't reasons which could be explained on the forum, Instead the reasons for keeping our hair can only be experienced through GurbaaNee and Naam Simran.

Dorothy, No offense, but you're ruining the whole atmosphere of this message board, People come here to learn about Sikhism, not to hear insults against longtime members of this board and more importantly, insults against the Sikh religion, So please, either clean up your posts or leave this message board.

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