Deep Singh

If you can borrow/buy books, then ask for the translation by Dr. Jodh Singh in two volumes. The incomplete online translations are extracted from there. Hope you find it ji. However, if you are well-versed in Punjabi, you should also try Bhai Vir Singh Ji's commentary or Giani Narain Singh ji's...

What's the use of having Shaheed's pictures all over the Gurdwaras?

Bay Area, California i believe

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I have seen the first 15 minutes of that video and i am about to cry. What has this politics done to our religion??? It is NOT funny! It is just SICK... It is not strange that youth doesn't go to Gurdwaras.

Here are a reason that i think you might understand: Compared to other scripts used at the times, Guru Sahib used Gurmukhi script (a form of some Old Punjabi script, most probably Ardanagari) because all the other scripts couldn't give the correct pronunciation. (perhaps devanagari could, but it has 52 akhars and lots of these letters are not needed for Punjabi language...) Every language should (ideally) have it's own script which is suited to the ponetic setup (speech and pronunciation) of that language. Perso-Arabic scripts creates lots of problems for Indian languages, even Urdu readers know this, but they blindly use it as it connects them to their religion. And North-Indian scripts were not complete, as they lacked either laga-matra ("vowel signs") or they didn't have letters for some Punjabi sounds. And Devanagari was good, but it contains lots of more letters than is needed to write/read correct Punjabi, hence more than one letter for the same sound could also create problem. Thus Guru Sahib had to modify existing scripts to form a complete script that could be used for both Gurbani (and Punjabi language).

Guru Sahib's bachan is to also have knowledge about other faiths. So, good work Pheena ji. Some centuries ago, Sikh scholars used to translate scriptures of other faiths so that also Sikhs could have that knowledge. Bhai Santokh Singh is one such example..

Mr §ingh has some contacts in Sweden (may be you should PM him)

I have written a sort of 'article' at PCRC forum:

I think you pay directly to SikhLink, through your banking channel or paypal etc. They send Kirpans and Shasters within USA (or Canada) and not to Europe for security reasons. that's what i heard...might be wrong.

Bijla Singh Ji, I am in a mood of collecting sources and preparing an article. When i am done, i will notify you (i promised this to my fellow at PCRC forum also). Everything you asked about, i will try to answar ji.

Veer Ji, i have read this page before. And i made my opinion about 'Ardhanagri' origin after that. I don't support the Landa origin theory.

I have been having some discussion with a fellow: http://guca.sourceforge.net/forum/viewtopic.ppa?t=50 Follow the links given in that discussion. I will give solid proof if that is desired. Might be busy the next weeks, but you will get it.

Balait Da Sher Bhaji is right. The eka in Ik Oankar exited before Guru Sahib, and so did the Akhar Oraa. Guru Sahib didn't invent Gurmukhi. They codified an existing Lipi. Some call this Lipi by the name Ardhanagri, which was a combination of Kashmiri script Sharda and Hindustani script Devanagri. They "created" the script in the sense that they gave rules for its proper use, pronunciation, and orthography, however the akhars existed before. They modified some structures to make it better. Some draw the origin of Gurmukhi to Landa script, but i don't think that is correct. Why it is called Gurmukhi? Here, it doesn't mean 'from the Guru's mouth'. It is the related form of the word Gurmukh. Just like Sikhi is of Sikh. Gurmukhs were true Sikhs who wrote and spread the Word of Guru Sahiban. As they used the Ardhanagri script codified by Gurus, the script came to known as Gurmukhi.

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Ramnik Bhaji, It is great to do parchar. In the sense that you shouldn't force Sikhi on them, but if they want to learn, you should share Sikhi.

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Ramnik Bhaji, THAT IS GREAT! I know some Russian/East-European people, and they are alright. Actually, as you pointed out, lots of Russians are interested in Indian religions and some want to learn about Vedas and all. A friend told me that there was a girl who learned Punjabi and went into a Punjabi shop here and they were all surprised. :wub:

Is this story in the news? If NOT, then someone should call BBC!!

Can you speak/write/read Russian Jio?

Just write a letter to the second theatre that they should edit those parts about Gurdwara. That's enough, i think.

Bole So Nihaaaaal Sat Sri Akaaaaaaaaaaal! Gurpreet Singh ji...w'll talk on messenger

Fateh Jio! Mahan Kosh says that a Khargg should be of 5 fingers bredth and 50 fingers length. A khargg is most likely another name for a Khanda. I can't be 100% sure if the conventional terms with martial arts have changed or something, that you can check with those Shashtar-dhari Singhs/Singhees who have more knowledge. I don't know if Baba Deep Singh ji Shaheed used this size, most likely something bigger (depending upon the weight), but this is the standard size. I will try to see if i can find something else and let you know. Also his Khandeh's weight was 18 ser...ie 32 lbs, that is about 14,5 kg. Added later: ok, now i am sure that Khargg = Khanda. another way of writing it is Khadag. It is the same size and form. So it should be that size, if Baba Deep Singh ji used standard Khanda.

Baba Ji says: Shabha Shabhas Rakho Kamm Napp Ke... Maar de Maar de...eh da koi parcha nai hona..Maar de Khech Ke..Napp Ke Rakho Kamm. just beat just beat....there will not be a police case....... we should learn to speak from Baba ji...

Gatka + Dhadi Varan + Jaikareh man, we should have been there... :wub: like live broadcast is great...but when you see it with you own eyes, you feel the spirit!