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Okji as u wish Akalifauj ji, but I'm baffled as kirajis posts seem to be the best I seen in a long time. Each to their own opnion.

I don't understand what you are trying to prove Akalifauj ji. Kira jis posts are good and to me it seems you are challenging him. Why? As he style of writing is not what you are used to? I just don't get why you are constantly challenging, apne posts v deklea Karo ji. Chee chuu chee chuu are u ever satisfied?

Wonderful, satbachan ji. Harsharan ji the 5elements, panj tat? Fire, water, air, Earth and space?

Agree starstriker ji, the kids of the above ages u mentioned have presently got the best of both worlds. They have the chest of treasures in front of them, and they will be the ones wearing the jewels of our faith. It doesn't get any better than English parchaar, just hope they hold onto the Gurmukhi language too. There never used to be any awareness or education of Sikhi, even a few Punjabi classes were rarely held. And when the Gursikhs tried to educate, they were seen as outsiders in some towns there were not enough of them, midlands and southall were lucky to have more awareness. But now the towns that were isolated for so long are catching up and they are actually feeling proud of what they missed out on. Sabar da phal (fruit) mitha hunda hai. And that time will come in Gods hukam.

Kira ji this is my original self, respect I learned from elders, but after my health condition I lost my way. I'm confused to as how Harsharan ji paji gave me the same respect as you as I too feel I'm not worthy of it. I am not even worth the dust of knowledge and to be honest I don't have much knowledge of Sikhi, nor do I know how to write in deep engaging topics. But I do understand yours and Harsharan jis posts, aswell as many more on this site. It's refreshing light understanding from the way you both write. Without reading vast amounts and getting confused. Love the radio and frequency bits, weird that how I think. And the style of writing is very hmm not sure how to describe. delightful to read. It's good to see truthful and well explained topics that my soul can absorb and learn from. Thanku ji.

Hanji You are right Harsharan ji, if we were perfect we would not be in this world and at our destination home. Thank u ji, I will accept ur compliment, am blessed to hear this, even I do not see it myself Hanji u are right, so many debates are confusing too, it diverts one from the main topic being discussed, and then goes out of hand. It also damages our own souls, as arguing and judging others will only have a negative effect on ourselves. One must defend themselves against any negativity and oppression, but in such a way that it does not reflect upon one's self in a bad way or that it hurts the other's soul. "Kise da kuch gwach NI janda je khadar nal kise nal bolo", so true what u said. Hanji all diversities of Wahegurus creation praising them, and helping. Arguments aside, at least all are talking about God, which will count towards ones Karm. Hanji I noticed the same thing you say about Kira ji, the flow of the praises and explanations does show a pure and nimrata soul. Yup and the way the gristi roop adjusts back again, into whole post - wonderful.

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Aww thank you ji harsharan000 ji for your blessing. I don't deserve the compliment, if u allow me to share ur kind words with others that write wonderful posts on here. Mere Daata ji di mehar a, Jo twade jaise nimrata wale rooha de sangat hundi. All compliments for Waheguru Ji. ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ ਅਸਟਪਦੀਆ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ਘਰੁ ੧ Raag Soohee Asattapadheeaa Mehalaa 1 Ghar 1 ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਸਭਿ ਅਵਗਣ ਮੈ ਗੁਣੁ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ॥ I am totally without virtue; I have no virtue at all. ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਕੰਤ ਮਿਲਾਵਾ ਹੋਈ ॥੧॥ How can I meet my Husband Lord? ||1|| ਨਾ ਮੈ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਬੰਕੇ ਨੈਣਾ ॥ I have no beauty, no enticing eyes. ਨਾ ਕੁਲ ਢੰਗੁ ਨ ਮੀਠੇ ਬੈਣਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ I do not have a noble family, good manners or a sweet voice. ||1||Pause|| ਸਹਜਿ ਸੀਗਾਰ ਕਾਮਣਿ ਕਰਿ ਆਵੈ ॥ The soul-bride adorns herself with peace and poise. ਤਾ ਸੋਹਾਗਣਿ ਜਾ ਕੰਤੈ ਭਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ But she is a happy soul-bride, only if her Husband Lord is pleased with her. ||2|| ਨਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ਕਾਈ ॥ He has no form or feature; ਅੰਤਿ ਨ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਿਮਰਿਆ ਜਾਈ ॥੩॥ At the very last instant, he cannot suddenly be contemplated. ||3|| ਸੁਰਤਿ ਮਤਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਚਤੁਰਾਈ ॥ I have no understanding, intellect or cleverness. ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਲਾਵਹੁ ਪਾਈ ॥੪॥ Have Mercy upon me, God, and attach me to Your Feet. ||4|| ਖਰੀ ਸਿਆਣੀ ਕੰਤ ਨ ਭਾਣੀ ॥ She may be very clever, but this does not please her Husband Lord. ਮਾਇਆ ਲਾਗੀ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਣੀ ॥੫॥ Attached to Maya, she is deluded by doubt. ||5|| ਹਉਮੈ ਜਾਈ ਤਾ ਕੰਤ ਸਮਾਈ ॥ But if she gets rid of her ego, then she merges in her Husband Lord. ਤਉ ਕਾਮਣਿ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਨਵ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੬॥ Only then can the soul-bride obtain the nine treasures of her Beloved. ||6|| ਅਨਿਕ ਜਨਮ ਬਿਛੁਰਤ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ Separated from You for countless incarnations, I have suffered in pain. ਕਰੁ ਗਹਿ ਲੇਹੁ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਰਾਇਆ ॥੭॥ Please take my hand, O my Beloved Sovereign Lord God. ||7|| ਭਣਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਹੁ ਹੈ ਭੀ ਹੋਸੀ ॥ Prays Nanak, the Lord is, and shall always be. ਜੈ ਭਾਵੈ ਪਿਆਰਾ ਤੈ ਰਾਵੇਸੀ ॥੮॥੧॥ She alone is ravished and enjoyed, with whom the Beloved Lord is pleased. ||8||1||

Weird, u sound like me. ? ??

Wise words ji.

Simply because when the very first elders come over abroad, they did work such as labourers, factory, truck drivers, manual work, etc, remember they had less education opportunities, and many of them could not read or write. The average resident of Punjab is nowadays is more connected with Bollywood, and Hindi is spoken in the children's schools, thus the shift from being "Punjabi", but more English.

But isn't this issue worldwide at present time? Western culture Di agh India, Punjab ch v lagi a ji.

I can only say from my own experience that I saw less respect for Sikhi when I went to Canada and India than UK. I think it depends on which area one goes to also. But from what I see, and I can't comment for anybody else's experience, UK kids are more wAnting to learn about their faith than the above mentioned. As I see wealth seems to be more of a trend in bigger countries, big houses etc thus more competition, so the haumai to me implys to those countries as there is the opportunity to show it off more.

" she loans money from ppl when she doesnt have to and expects us to pay up which is causing my husband to have enormous stress he is working really hard. " Has she been checked for dementia by the doctor? When was the last time she had a health check at the doctor? I think this should be the first step, book a doctors appointment and get an interpreter for her too, so she can discuss anything that maybe causing these problems, first rule out any medical issues. Maybe get some help, does she go to Gurdwara or anywhere where there are people of her age to interact with? This will take some stress off you too.

ਕਾਨੜਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੪ ॥ कानड़ा महला ४ ॥ Kānṛā mėhlā 4. Kaanraa, Fourth Mehl: ਹਰਿ ਜਸੁ ਗਾਵਹੁ ਭਗਵਾਨ ॥ हरि जसु गावहु भगवान ॥ Har jas gāvhu bẖagvān. Sing the Praises of the Lord God. ਜਸੁ ਗਾਵਤ ਪਾਪ ਲਹਾਨ ॥ जसु गावत पाप लहान ॥ Jas gāvaṯ pāp lahān. Singing His Praises, sins are washed away. ਮਤਿ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਸੁਨਿ ਜਸੁ ਕਾਨ ॥ मति गुरमति सुनि जसु कान ॥ Maṯ gurmaṯ sun jas kān. Through the Word of the Guru's Teachings, listen to His Praises with your ears. ਹਰਿ ਹੋ ਹੋ ਕਿਰਪਾਨ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ हरि हो हो किरपान ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Har ho ho kirpān. ||1|| rahā▫o. The Lord shall be Merciful to you. ||1||Pause||

I can't comment for USA ji but I see some gurdwaras here are changing. It's not a lot but anything is better than nothing. They care more about education as they probably struggled themselves and want their children to have what they didn't so are painting the picture of success which is not a bad thing, but some are spilling the paint over the picture, with one colour missing, thus neglecting faith and moral values. Is nu kende a kalyug de rang ji. Jad rang duljanda fer tasveer pechaan ni hundi. Lal rang tis ko laga, jiska vadbhagaa - Guru Arjan Dev ji ?

That's okji you are entitled to your opnion. You are right in a sense but it is a worldwide issue parenting nowadays is more stressful I feel as there is more choice. Children are growing up so fast and are very defensive too than before. I agree with SinghBerkshire, it's not just our community it's others too. In India too parenting is th hardest I guess, if not marrying into other faiths, there are other issues, drugs alcohol, etc, more freedom. Do to Bollywood. And th going abroad case. Sheikhyobooty emphasizes on educating, awareness, more support. Couldn't agree more, where's there is no knowledge, there is no progress. But then again it is kalyug, and this is all happening in Gods hukam, we can try ourselves, but Jo rab da hukam uste NI jor koi. All society has changed, compare what the world was 15-20 years ago to now, one day hukam will also reverse the problems. SheikhyoBooty ji I wouldn't say I'm intelligent, Meri Mat thori a, but thank you ji for ur blessing, I'm also learning, I only write what I feel, as logically as I see it. I have my own self to judge and if I learn something from others then I am blessed to receive that.

Lol this reminds me of a little paji Innergear used to write like this

Probably the same way they have in other countries paji, such as Canada USA etc.

Lolz the poses were funny

Here is your answer ji:ਮਃ ੪ ॥ मः ४ ॥ Mėhlā 4. Fourth Mehl: ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ गुर सतिगुर का जो सिखु अखाए सु भलके उठि हरि नामु धिआवै ॥ Gur saṯgur kā jo sikẖ akẖā▫e so bẖalke uṯẖ har nām ḏẖi▫āvai. One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ उदमु करे भलके परभाती इसनानु करे अम्रित सरि नावै ॥ Uḏam kare bẖalke parbẖāṯī isnān kare amriṯ sar nāvai. Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ उपदेसि गुरू हरि हरि जपु जापै सभि किलविख पाप दोख लहि जावै ॥ Upḏes gurū har har jap jāpai sabẖ kilvikẖ pāp ḏokẖ lėh jāvai. Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ फिरि चड़ै दिवसु गुरबाणी गावै बहदिआ उठदिआ हरि नामु धिआवै ॥ Fir cẖaṛai ḏivas gurbāṇī gāvai bahḏi▫ā uṯẖ▫ḏi▫ā har nām ḏẖi▫āvai. Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ जो सासि गिरासि धिआए मेरा हरि हरि सो गुरसिखु गुरू मनि भावै ॥ Jo sās girās ḏẖi▫ā▫e merā har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖāvai. One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind.

Nice post ਹੁਕਮੀ ਹੋਵਨਿ ਆਕਾਰ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਨ ਕਹਿਆ ਜਾਈ ॥ हुकमी होवनि आकार हुकमु न कहिआ जाई ॥ Hukmī hovan ākār hukam na kahi▫ā jā▫ī. By His Command, bodies are created; His Command cannot be described. ਹੁਕਮੀ ਹੋਵਨਿ ਜੀਅ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਮਿਲੈ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥ हुकमी होवनि जीअ हुकमि मिलै वडिआई ॥ Hukmī hovan jī▫a hukam milai vadi▫ā▫ī. By His Command, souls come into being; by His Command, glory and greatness are obtained. ਹੁਕਮੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਲਿਖਿ ਦੁਖ ਸੁਖ ਪਾਈਅਹਿ ॥ हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि लिखि दुख सुख पाईअहि ॥ Hukmī uṯam nīcẖ hukam likẖ ḏukẖ sukẖ pā▫ī▫ah. By His Command, some are high and some are low; by His Written Command, pain and pleasure are obtained. ਇਕਨਾ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਬਖਸੀਸ ਇਕਿ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਸਦਾ ਭਵਾਈਅਹਿ ॥ इकना हुकमी बखसीस इकि हुकमी सदा भवाईअहि ॥ Iknā hukmī bakẖsīs ik hukmī saḏā bẖavā▫ī▫ah. Some, by His Command, are blessed and forgiven; others, by His Command, wander aimlessly forever. ਹੁਕਮੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਹੁਕਮ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ हुकमै अंदरि सभु को बाहरि हुकम न कोइ ॥ Hukmai anḏar sabẖ ko bāhar hukam na ko▫e. Everyone is subject to His Command; no one is beyond His Command. ਨਾਨਕ ਹੁਕਮੈ ਜੇ ਬੁਝੈ ਤ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥੨॥ नानक हुकमै जे बुझै त हउमै कहै न कोइ ॥२॥ Nānak hukmai je bujẖai ṯa ha▫umai kahai na ko▫e. ||2|| O Nanak, one who understands His Command, does not speak in ego. ||2||

It depends on what sangat they are communicating in, which also affects a persons mindset. If the mums are also in an environment where other mums can reflect upon them as role models it may sway their way of thinking. As end of day it's all about the environment one is living in and how they shapes their thought of mind Ji. As some women tend to give in to their children but with the right values that they have will also reflect upon the children. Most women just tend to go matha tek maybe do seva but is there any education on how to deal with issues? No ji there is no support when things go wrong, so the problem escalates up until it cannot be saved. Paji it's both ways, more liberal causes divertion and Also restriction and over control causes it too. It's a difficult job being a parent, especially nowadays it has to be balanced correctly and in this day and age it's more difficult as there is more freedom. Also the gurdwaras have a duty to reject such marriages. They don't have to say yes. Agree with SinghBerkshire ji, it will reduce if the gurdwaras do not participate. People can marry elsewhere, nobody is stopping that. The onus is on the gurdwaras to not allow it in the first place. Everything is in Gods hukam.

Gud idea but some wouldn't agree, I think this is great idea, already there are organisations set up to help alcoholics in our community and things are being in place to have these sort of services accessible for our community. Gurdwaras are where most of our community goes and what better place to have these counsellors at. Just more need to get involved and get the ball rolling.

But that's just what u gather. I know very intelligent n very educated people that have married other religions, so it's not one sided. I wouldn't say they have less to lose if their father is an alcoholic or any problem they may have in their family, because every person regardless of their family members loves their own blood, it's the halaat (situation) that changes a persons karm too. In society's eyes yes they may have less to lose, but like I said before if there is love for God and their faith then the girls will not have much to lose, if it's written in their karm to overcome those problems and go on right path. It can work both ways.