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@Cisco Singh I am not belittiling Akal Takhat in any way, or saying anything against them, Let me explain it, if I was to take Amrit, being a meat eater now, I would not eat it once I would become Amritdhari. so sorry to disappoint you or anybody with this thinking of mine. I would not eat meat if I was an Amritdhari...and I am not talking for the rest of the world, i am talking for myself only as this is what I have been taught and I prefer to respect this condition, same way as those who think its okay to eat meat if Amritdhari, all entitled to our own opnions without giving mehne to each other. I cant help it if that what my mann feels and thinks. End of, not here to fight with nobody, I personally would not feel right eating it, and having not ate meat for more than 10years in the past, I know how it feels to be given mehne for wat one's mann feels by not eating it.This is my own personal opnion, same way as I cant force those that eat it, I would not want to be forced to eat it or be manipulated into eating it either. thankuji

how can anybody not realise wat the video is doing, i am semi veggie, means not quite, but from seeing that video its obvious wat is being done. totally agree with DasamSarablohGranth, even my Sikhi knowledge may not be much, these people set it up. its awful the way its been done. this is why people get confused when nonsense people twist gurbani in order to create frustation. its like doing chuglian and slandering. one can always tell from the eyes the hidden agenda. and just to add, when becoming Amritdhari, NO meat, even meat eaters know that. its somethin as the norm we have have learned from our elders. and for them to state in riddles that maybe allowed totally wrong. come on have some respect for Amritdharis and dont mess it up with over modern views.

well erm 1947 partition of India, and Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale was born in village rode located in Faridkot District of Punjab, in 1947. 1954 - An earthquake in 1934 seriously damaged the older building of the Takht Sahib. The present five-storey building was constructed during 1954-57 through kar-seva under the supervision of Sant Nischal Singh and Sant Kartar Singh. and one of my relatives was born then. 1977 - . On August 25, 1977, upon the death of Sant Kartar Singh, he became head of the Taksaal. and one of my best friends was born but died last year, and he was the one that first told me about Sukhmani Sahib ji and to do paat. 1984 - In June 1984 'Operation Bluestar', on the Darbar Sahib complex in Amritsar and over forty other Gurdwaras in Punjab. 2014- plans for free Sikh school opening 2021- i will become a buddi and start knitting kotian, or may not even be in this world then. dont know give up on the last two years. so Wats the prize for guessing?

@ kalyugi yes u are right we are very naive and trusting, not only youth but also adults, and i think its just our nature and personalities that cannot think of hurting anybody but instead end up getting hurt ourselves when doing good deeds for others. I feel not only india, here too the new generation has changed soo much, its very sad to see what we were taught about respect, sincerity, helping others not intentionally hurting anybody, that its all changed and its soo difficult to tell when somebody is lieing or telling truth nowadays. As we know one cannot see inside somebodys mann to realise until its too late what somebody's true colours are, there always seems to be a "matlabi" side to everything nowadays, whether its friendship, relations, family, gone are the days when people used to practise humanity, "insaniyat".... I m sorry to say this also from personal experience, no matter how strong one is or careful somebody will always come along to hurt the best people, the ones who are trying to do the right thing in life. Somehow, sorry to say, people from punjab, back home from where we consider our home too, seem to be the ones that are very very talented in the word "hurt", and then twist everything around to blame the innocent party. And all this jealous attititude towards people settled abroad in the heads, whilst we are always busy being nicey nice, polite, and when we go over to india, does anybody go out of their way for us? very rarely i guess, only those with strong relation connections. its normally the nri's paying for their own cars to get them around, for their own food, for their own everything, and treating all th relatives too. whats that all about, even the ones that dont work here are suppose to take back gifts for them, and wat do we get? probably a horrible suit that we never gona wear which didnt cost nothing, but when they come over here we are expected to take them everywhere spending our money which we have earnt hardly spend for ourselves on petrol, takin them to th tourist places, and treating them to weddings this and that, and shopping, even if its asda, at least we do that. you wouldnt mind if u got th same treatment over there, then they become all sad faced and make out they got nothing, but when we leave, its like get th new chamkaneh suits and chapalaa and lots of treats for th kids, and go everywhere themselves, obviously spending money then. The truth is the truth people think we are loaded here, as if darakthaa tho paise digdeh, when they got no idea how hard our families work and have worked, and some people are still in th same position they were 20yrs ago, they dont realise we work to feed ourselves not all go to india to make big kotiaan.,.. and we are the ones that would get the mehne and the abuse thrown at us for how come we not got a mercedes yet or ishareh that we do make our own house in india coz it gets too much for them to look after us for 2wks as guests, whereas its ok for them come here and get special treatment, coz they from india? all a load of rubbish, the genuines will not complain, and will always say jo rab nu manzoor hai, its the ones that have something that are th complainers. excuse me tusi ghar banavo ithe aake 100,000 pounds tho upar te jad holiday karn aunde tusi othe hi reho teh sanu gifts leke aake deo, can u imagine if we had the same attitude as same, how we would be belittled and then be called million names under the sun, to be told we dont believe in god. hahahahahaha...ironic really.

the truth is everything everybody has written. There are genuine people that come from Punjab that need the work to feed their families back home, but there are also lots and lots of fake students that dont need to come here when they got it all back home. one poster is right in sayin they do nothin back home, whilst their fathers and grandfathers do the khethi and hard work. its all about going cinema, becoming singer, flirting with kudia, and making fools of the ones abroad too with their over acting skills. drugs daru honey singh batian bujalo fir peeke talli hoke gaalan kadke digjao, fb te sarea nu budu bnalo. the difference is also the attitudes of nowadays, they are more nasty hearts but for themselves don't care whether somebody lives or dies as long as they get what they want. here youth actually work so they help out with family or to get their own clothes treats. there they are given by their parents and all want to become singers their dream, no offence to the real singers so that's their excuse for not working. its not the fashion to work over there, unless you are desperate to, even then abroad is best option. nobody wants to listen to the reality even they know Wats going on here, they will still send their kids abroad just to say mera putt, kudi bhaar geye. back home its all lies nobody accepts wahegurus hukam like they do abroad, apart from the decent mentally grounded ones. they want more and more and its all about designer this that and mobile phones, not about caring for anybody or seeing life as it is. ever heard how the students speak when they come over or if in punjab, guys girls, very rarely i heard shy punjabis or that talk with respect. i always hear guys with phones on their ears, shouting swear words as normal conversation, and girls wearing the latest fashion even if they can't understand the method of saving money. punjab generation in my opinion of nowadays have become very rebellious and are so different from those that came pre 6yrs. they think we are stupid and when somebody helps them they are not grateful but dont think much of it. only the ones that are really dukhi the genuinely ones in need appreciate what life is all about, and make the effort to provide for themselves and you will see also the difference between their attitudes god fearing sincere people compared to the spoil brats. that's the truth, kalyug hai, our punjab is no longer punjab, the very lucky will get to experience the true punjab.

lol @ Raaj.Karega.Khalsa. sorry threw away somethin else not them, they stuffed in a cupboard somewhere in th techhiecase along with th purane shawls n jerii wale suit that never gona wear again. are u not suppose to throw them away, i dont even know.

I seen some women wear chura for like up to a year, like wats th point in that? and the kaleereh thing where they are hung up in th bedroom, im so glad i threw mine away eventually didnt see no point in it.,

But penji Gurpreet14 its irrelevant really in who they are. Thats not our job to judge people's opnions, everybody will have different opnions. What is interesting is the topic question, and the varied opnions that come back on it, not who gave them, then that gets kind of personal if u know wat i mean. Te mere le gorea vali chaa pg tips wali plz...thankuji

I love Bhai Satvinder Singh and Bhai Harvinder Singh's shabads, they are just great to listen to: I love this one:

hmmm, never noticed that, i usually get relaxed after listenin to shabads on youtube. but u are right in saying it does affect you, as it depends on what you are watching before u go to sleep. The brain remembers everything u have seen or listened to that day, the brain is like a computer it records everything, then will bring it up when u are asleep, So better to think about what you watch before you go to sleep, so your mind has time to relax and wind down from the days events so you can sleep comfortably.

If I had the choice i would go for a nice suit, that u can wear again, without getting dolled up. I soo regret th red thing when I got married, and feelin like an accesories hanger..lolz.. too much stress over all that. A lovely kadiaa suit will be nice too and easier to handle plus can be worn again and again, thus saving a fortune. I feel people go too over the top on weddings nowadays in cost and decor, and prefer the amritdhari way of simplicity... Also i cant believe how much they charge nowadays for bridal makeup and getting ready, omg siapaaa ineh paiseh ...

Penji i dont think u need to explain nothing to nobody, I understand where u are coming from. The thing is its Kalyug and people dont like the truth, thats the truth. Issues will always be covered up or sugarcoated so as nobody gets offended. I think u posted a good topic and see nothing wrong with it. You asked a questions and it is interesting to know how many replies u got back. Also I have noticed some of the male gender in our community do not like the female gender to speak out or express their opnions either, in 2013, there are a lot of hypocrites nowadays, regardless of whether they are amritdhari or not. But that does not mean everybody is the same. There are a lot of Singhs out there that are good Sikhs and maybe they do not have access to this forum to express their views either. Sometimes we have to see a topic from both sides in order to understand why people are replying the way they are. But no dont say sorry, noways, if u are a Singhni no need to say sorry for something u being in strongly..

does one have to be an amritdhari in order to learn kirtan? i too would like to learn, but feel do not have a singing voice thus to sing in surr will be difficult. also if its ok, whats the best harmonium to get and average prices? and is it possible to get compact harmoniums from India and weight please?

Thankuji twanu v lakh vadaiyan ji Maharaj ji de bday dia

Firstly sorryji for becomin so desperate in need of help yesterday. Secondly i think i was having some sort of panic attack. cant even remember writing th above until i saw it today.. Thankuji to whoever did th ardas for me, feelin bit better today...and its weird listened to paat today and seemed ok...so i dont know wat happened n why, but i do have a lot of worries at th moment. once again thankuji for ur help penjis guptkaur and gurpreet14 and guest ji... i will read th rest later as need to rest now. thankuji baut baut twada...waheguru

i need help not a doc never asked for this before, i need ardas, anybody can help me please cant cope nomore, times running out. dont like nothin or nobody no more, times running out. nobody wants to help, faith gone zero. doing simran nothin happening, cried cried cried scared of this world. scary feeling won't go. energy gone. nasty world always blame me. nobody never helped me in life. god has left me. on own again. good then nice can die. the end.

i hate it when amritdhari females give me dirty looks. or won't sit next to me as if i got germs or am an alien. this always happens, until yesterday, a young woman with her mother and daughter came to matha tek, and as usual i thought they would go and sit away from me. but came and sat right next to me. i thought maybe as i just so happen to me sitting in front of Maharaj ji, and they want to sit in that position too. as they sat next to me felt so comfortable, and it was nice, felt proud to be sitting next to amritdharis. the odd thing was i remembered my mother and grandmother how us three generations used to go gurdwara together but is no more. and the whole darbar sahib was empty they could have sat anywhere, or behind me or in front, but chose to sit next to me, which made me feel comfortable and happy. Penji please dont let this get you down, everybody is just out for themselves. this is teaching you to be strong. i always think to myself so wat nobody wants to talk to me coz my reason is to go to gurdwara to sing the praises to god. not to impress people, let them carry on wat they are doing, but keep set on your goal, as the one you are singing to is your support. Waheguru ne kam auna aukhe vehle, matlabi dunia ne nai.

oh dear this wrapping up is exhausting me, its one thing after another. but i am so glad i found Sikhi, did not know nothin about it. and we are lucky we have media nowadays too, so much to learn. i like listen to shabads more than anything, maybe the therapy side of it attracts me. good idea of th recording, was thinkin about th mala bit for a while. i always thought poor health is karam only and that not all of it can be washed away as we have to bhog some sajaa for the bad karam. Atma-goal? means doing good karm, and wat the gurus came on this earth to teach us, such as praising god?

i try not to have langar as cannot digest it properly, so i will probably have somethin when i get home. when i do have it, i have minimal as possible, and only so as my thinking is this that it has been blessed by Maharaj ji. when they do the bhog of it, Maharaj ji showers their blessings on it, thus langar is fruitful then. and also dont feel the need for it at times as i cannot do seva, and feel that if i go to gurdwara for langar only and am not benefiting from the gurbani that will be filling me up also. the taste of that is fruitful to me too.

@Sunsingh paji, yes you are right about the obstacles, i know my karm are bad due to my health,and realise the only way to clear or reduce them is by seva simran and sadhsangat, but that is only fully achievable if one is in good health. like they say health is wealth, without it not much can be done. eg. started a simran session at gurdwara and thought this is just wat i need and will go bak week after. yep the obstacle came got ill then somethin came up at home so only got to go once. but now i know its there i can go when i am up to it. try to do as much simran without sitting in one place, like doing household chores. these obstacles make me angry. guess its all part of the process. thankuji for makin me aware of that.

somethin odd is happenin to me, whenever i say i will do this n this... last wk i decided to get up at amritvela n do simran, after hearin a shabad on th radio which went somthin like amritvela utke waheguru japp, but thought how on earth me goin to get up, as i cant normally get up that time due to my health. so as normal went to sleep.. had a weird dream, went into a room there were 3 amritdharis doin simran, but were like goin all over th place, when i came outside there were two Singhs one I knew of, and other i didnt, then i couldnt find my shoes or phone, so walked bare foot. Dream carried on where i walked into a room which looked a a hospital, and my deceased grandmother was on th bed, and got up and kept sayin on purpose i didnt come to see her, so i told her sorry that i had lost my phone n shoes, so was late. The strong impact of my grandma in th dream woke me up, and kind of freaked me out. as if she was in th house, went to th bathroom, and when i came back saw th time it was 2mins b4 th time i wanted to wake up. Totally forgot all about th simran i had planned, until i saw th time. then could not concentrate as she wouldnt get out of my mind, but as i put all my energy into th simran i began to feel better, and slept nicely afterwards. But th next day got sooo ill, there was sudden downward surge in my health, which I not been so bad in long time. And last few days not been so gud, now tryin to get to where i was b4.. Im wonderin whether there is any link between all this, i noticed everytime I do paat or simran n feel im gettin on right track i get ill, and also whenever my grandma comes in my dream mostly i get ill th next day. why does this happen, i get very emotional after that i try so hard, and then go back to square one. I dont believe in dreams, but why does this happen, especially when im doin so well with my paat side of things.

please add 50 may Waheguru help penji Added Khalsa Ji, Waheguru

oh thankuji paji, no wonder I cant find nothin th internet, Harmandir sahib fb page has put status up of Gurpurab and i thought it was today, and also checked some sites have this year's as tomorrow or monday.. soo very very confused... Thankuji, oh well i've wished most people Happy Gurpurab now... Dhan Guru Gobind Singh ji

Waheguruji ka Khalsa Waheguruji ki Fateh, Firstly I would like to take the opportunity to wish everybody a Happy Gurpurab.. Lakh vadaiyaan ji Gurpurab dia sarea nu, Dhan Guru Gobind Singh ji... :waheguru: :khalsa: But im not sure is it today or tomorrow? And when are gurdwaras in the Uk mostly likely to celebrate, today or tomorrow? Thankuji...

Do simran...