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Udhoke is playing games on Sri Dasam Granth. Udhoke himself is a Kala-Afghani missionary. The person asking him the questions quotes Udhoke as stating those verses in Sri Bachitar Natak are not Bani and were written afterwards. As you can see, Udhoke doesn't even try to dispute that statement- this proves that he does NOT believe those verses are Bani, but at the same time he tries to state others should not criticize it. On one hand he has already criticized Sri Dasam Bani, and on the other he is telling others not to do so. This is so typical of this guy - all he wants is attention. He is not a Rahitvaan Sikh, he was kicked out of GURSIKH and Shahbaaz Khalsa Organizations for various reasons. He has used the research on RSS done by other GurSikhs and unilaterally published the material and taken credit for everything himself. He is a perfect for modern Khalistanis who like to scream about RSS all the time, but have a soft corner for naastics.

I agree with Bhai GPS Ji, You can not blame SGPC for everything that goes on. Lately, the Satkar Commitee has started using questionable tactics themsevles. Years ago, the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Satkar Committee was a joint effort between independent Panthic Singhs, Akhand Kirtan Jatha Singhs, and Damdami Taksal (Ajnala) Singhs. The latter two groups have now distanced themselves from the current head Balbir Singh Mucchall who has unilaterally made decisions that were not very popular with the rest of the Singhs. Reacting violently to every transgression is not the Khalsa way, Satkar Committee should know better. They need to learn to deal with issues in a more sophisticated manner. I hope Satkar Committee rethinks about their tactics and approach, otherwise they will not support from the Public or the Panth.

http://www.panthic.org/alerts/1000026 It seems detractors of the Guru Khalsa Panth have been creating ruckus and pandemonium in the Sikh community forever – but Panth has dealt with these challenges accordingly - in the highest of spirits. After Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji’s accession to Sachkhand, when Bhai Gurbakhash Singh (Baba Banda Singh Bahadur) reached Punjab, a revered Sikh Ragi, Kirtani Bhai Balakee Singh Ji and his companions met up with the Sikh General and the Khalsa Fauj in the outskirts of the town of Payal and Ghurram circa around 1709. They came to court of the Khalsa with a serious complaint against the heresy that had been spreading under the tutelage of the Masands and their heterodox Ramrai congregation in the town of Payal....(more)

This is so true. Isn't the reaction to Leno an over exaggeration? Especially when Dhunda said something that was thousand times worse and he is being given gold medals?

PUBLISHERS CONTINUE TO DESECRATE GURBANI DESPITE SIKH UPROAR Gurbani Pothees and Angs in Rubbish Piles http://www.panthic.org/articles/5408

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5406 PANTHIC.ORG | Published on January 7, 2012 Izhar Alam and his wife Farzana aka 'Nissara Khatoon' MALERKOTLA, PUNJAB (KP) - Further demonstrating their disdain for the Sikh Panth, Shiromani Akali Dal (Badal), fielded the wife of notorious human rights violator Mohammad Izhar Alam as the party’s candidate from Malerkotla constituency for the upcoming state assembly elections. Akali Dal (Badal), Hindu Bhartyia Janta Party (BJP) and the Sant Samaj combine are all campaigning for the upcoming state assembly elections under the same umbrella. (more at : http://www.panthic.org/articles/5406)

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5405 Sri Akal Takht Sahib, Amritsar Sahib (KP) – A decree issued by Sri Akal Takht Sahib summoned the controversial speaker Sarbjit Dhunda to the Apex Sikh Throne for his blasphemous remarks regarding Gurbani Kirtan recited at Sri Darbar Sahib Amritsar... KHALISTANI GURDWARA IGNORES AKAL TAKHT SAHIB DECREE Despite the decree from Sri Akal Takht, Dashmesh Darbar Surrey, a key "Khalistani" Gurdwara has continued to allow Dhunda to speak from their stage. ...ਜਿੰਨੀ ਦੇਰ ਸਰਬਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਧੂੰਦਾ, ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖ਼ਤ ਸਾਹਿਬ 'ਤੇ ਸਪੱਸ਼ਟੀਕਰਨ ਨਹੀਂ ਦੇਂਦਾ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਚਿਰ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤਾਂ ਇਸ ਅਖੌਤੀ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰਕ ਨੂੰ ਮੂੰਹ ਨਾ ਲਗਾੳੇਣ। - ਸੰਦੇਸ਼ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖ਼ਤ ਸਾਹਿਬ (੩-੧-੨੦੧੨) Dhunda speaking from Dashmesh Darbar in direct violation of Akal Takht Decree http://www.panthic.org/articles/5405

GPS Ji' it is sad that you are praising Badal. If you are noticing the wrongdoings of Sarna, why do you have a soft corner for Badal? Badal is responsible for the murder of 13 Singhs on Vaisakhi 1978, and countless fake arrests, and tortures of Singhs. He has single-handedly destroyed or undermined all major Sikh institutions, including Sri Akal Takht Sahib. Under his "wonderful" raj - he has brought promiscuity, vulgarity and lewdness across Punjab. He and his Akali cohorts have made the daughters of Punjab dance half-naked on international television, under the guise of sports. Young Singhs are still being falsely implicated by planting RDX on them and labeling them as Babbars. Perhaps you don't know any of them personally, if you did you would not be praising such an evil man. Badal is also absconder from Sri Akal Takht Sahib just as Darshan Ragi is. He was summoned to Sri Akal Takht Sahib in 1999, and instead of going pesh at the Takht, he removed the Jathedar, Bhai Ranjit Singh Ji. Who cares if he even built a replica of Taj Mahal - it does not make him any less evil. The 'Khalsa-Virasat' complex was made by from the money fleeced from the blood and sweat of the poor Punjabis. It could have been spent in a wiser fashion, on the poor or the homeless or the victims of 1984 pogroms. The Khalsa does not need cheap concrete structures to preserve our 'Virasat' - this Virasat is built by the blood and sacrifice of our Shaheeds and not some Isreali Jew architect. Badal knows he can fool many by staging half-built "monuments" such as these before elections. I guess his tactic has worked for the short term since there are people who are doing his sift-salah. Never the less one can not fool the public for long - a time will come when his tactics will no longer work, and like Gadhafi he and his family also be hunted down like dogs by the very Khalsa they trying to suppress. Then - Badal will see the REAL 'Virasat-e-Khalsa.'

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5402 Quasi-preacher Sarbjit Dhunda ਜੇ ਸਰਬਜੀਤ ਧੂੰਦਾ ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਦੀਆਂ ਬਾਣੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਸੱਚਾ ਸਤਿਕਾਰ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਫ਼ਿਰ ਨਰਕਧਾਰੀਆਂ ਦੇ ਰਸਤੇ ਚੱਲ ਰਹੇ ਅਖਾਉਤੀ ਮਿਸ਼ਨਰੀ ਨਾਸਤਕਾਂ ਵਾਰੇ ਕਿੳਂ ਮੋਨ ਧਾਰੀ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੈ? ਧੂੰਦੇ ਦੇ ਆਪਣੇ ਸਹਾਇਕ ਹੀ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਜਾਪ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਬਾਰੇ ਅੂਲ-ਜਲੂਲ ਬੋਲ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ ਅਤੇ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਕਹਿ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ - ਧੂੰਦਾ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਬਾਰੇ ਚੁੱਪ ਕਿੳਂ?

http://panthic.org/articles/5400 ਧੰਨ ਜਣੇਦੀ ਮਾਉ ਜੋਧਾ ਜੋਧੀਐ ॥ Blessed is the mother of a Gurmukh warrior of warriors, who has given birth to him. Mata Gurnam Kaur Ji

Would you honor a scoundrel guilty of the desecration below? Several purported leaders of the American Sikh Community did. http://www.panthic.org/alerts/1000023

The heritage of Sikhi is built with the blood and sacrifice of our Great Gurus and Shaheeds. It can not be built by patit Panth dokhees such as Badal who have taken every opportunity since 1978 to suppress the true Sikh Spirit. At a physical level, those who have visited the complex state that it is a cheap expo on Punjabi culture and NOT Sikh culture. Even the design of the building has nothing to do with Sikhi. The "Virast-e-Khalsa" stunt is a shameful event for the Sikh quam. Badal is Panthic Enemy #1, and this function was all about promoting this Panthic enemy in the upcoming elections. Those who promoted this function (including the puppet Jathedars, gutless Nihangs, and sadhs (akhautee sants) will always be remembered for their treachery. By siding with Badal they have proved that they are walking and talking ਮੁਰਦੇ (zombies) with no conscious -because death of the conscious IS REAL DEATH. For the sake of saving face with their Akali/BJP/RSS masters, these self-serving cronies have turned their backs to the proud heritage of Sikhi - this is something the Panth should never forget, just as we have not forgotten the likes of Arroor Sinh, Zail Sinh, and others.

The heritage of Sikhi is built with the blood and sacrifice of our Great Gurus and Shaheeds. It can not be built by patit Panth dokhees such as Badal who have taken every opportunity since 1978 to suppress the true Sikh Spirit. At a physical level, those who have visited the complex state that it is a cheap expo on Punjabi culture and NOT Sikh culture. Even the design of the building has nothing to do with Sikhi. The "Virast-e-Khalsa" stunt is a shameful event for the Sikh quam. Badal is Panthic Enemy #1, and this function was all about promoting this Panthic enemy in the upcoming elections. Those who promoted this function (including the puppet Jathedars, gutless Nihangs, and sadhs (akhautee sants) will always be remembered for their treachery. By siding with Badal they have proved that they are walking and talking ਮੁਰਦੇ (zombies) with no conscious -because death of the conscious IS REAL DEATH. For the sake of saving face with their Akali/BJP/RSS masters, these self-serving cronies have turned their backs to the proud heritage of Sikhi - this is something the Panth should never forget, just as we have not forgotten the likes of Arroor Sinh, Zail Sinh, and others.

The heritage of Sikhi is built with the blood and sacrifice of our Great Gurus and Shaheeds. It can not be built by patit Panth dokhees such as Badal who have taken every opportunity since 1978 to suppress the true Sikh Spirit. At a physical level, those who have visited the complex state that it is a cheap expo on Punjabi culture and NOT Sikh culture. Even the design of the building has nothing to do with Sikhi. The "Virast-e-Khalsa" stunt is a shameful event for the Sikh quam. Badal is Panthic Enemy #1, and this function was all about promoting this Panthic enemy in the upcoming elections. Those who promoted this function (including the puppet Jathedars, gutless Nihangs, and sadhs (akhautee sants) will always be remembered for their treachery. By siding with Badal they have proved that they are walking and talking ਮੁਰਦੇ (zombies) with no conscious -because death of the conscious IS REAL DEATH. For the sake of saving face with their Akali/BJP/RSS masters, these self-serving cronies have turned their backs to the proud heritage of Sikhi - this is something the Panth should never forget, just as we have not forgotten the likes of Arroor Sinh, Zail Sinh, and others.

GPS Jee, Exactly how is this a "wonderful achievement" for Sikhs? The heritage of Sikhi is built with the blood and sacrifice of our Great Gurus and Shaheeds. It can not be built by patit Panth dokhees such as Badal who have taken every opportunity since 1978 to suppress the true Sikh Spirit. At a physical level, those who have visited the complex state that it is a cheap expo on Punjabi culture and NOT Sikh culture. Even the design of the building has nothing to do with Sikhi. The "Virast-e-Khalsa" stunt is a shameful event for the Sikh quam. Badal is Panthic Enemy #1, and this function was all about promoting this Panthic enemy in the upcoming elections. Those who promoted this function (including the puppet Jathedars, gutless Nihangs, and sadhs (akhautee sants) will always be remembered for their treachery. By siding with Badal they have proved that they are walking and talking ਮੁਰਦੇ (zombies) with no conscious -because death of the conscious IS REAL DEATH. For the sake of saving face with their Akali/BJP/RSS masters, these self-serving cronies have turned their backs to the proud heritage of Sikhi - this is something the Panth should never forget, just as we have not forgotten the likes of Arroor Sinh, Zail Sinh, and others.

GIANI KULWINDER SINGH DECLINES SIROPA FOR FASCIST HINDU LEADER AT SRI DARBAR SAHIB PANTHIC.ORG | Published on November 15, 2011 http://www.panthic.org/articles/5392

http://www.panthic.org/alerts/1000019 PANTHIC.ORG Published on November 14, 2011 Sant Samaj and Takht Jathedars Shamelessly Ignore Ruthless Tactics In welcoming right-wing Hindu terrorists of the Bhartya Janta Party (BJP) and Vishav Hindu Parishad (BJP), the Badal Regime systematically silenced all opposition protests in which cherished Sikh dastar of the young and old was desecrated openly by the security forces. The Akali Government, who is in alliance with the right-wing BJP, and the snatanist Sant-Samaj in the upcoming state elections, openly welcomed the Hindu Terrorist leader LK Advani's 'Rath Yatra' to Punjab. Advani is infamous for having approved and celebrated the 1984 invasion of Sri Darbar Sahib that killed thousands of innocents Sikhs and caused the destruction of Sri Akal Takht Sahib. While Akali Dal Amritsar and Sikh Student Federation activists were being kicked and beaten by the security forces, their dastars thrown on the ground like trash, shameless Sant Smajists, the self-styled babas who have been fleecing the Sikh nation for decades, were holding closed room meetings with Badal Dal representatives in hopes of reserving as many seat as possible for the upcoming Punjab Assembly elections. Not a peep was heard from these charlatans or the Takht Jathedars in regards to the desecration of the sacred Sikh dastar by the Badal Junta. Crooks and Politicians in Guise of Saints: Harnam Dhumma, Hari Randhawa, and Jasbir Rode Campaigning for Badal Badal and his Daughter in Law, Welcoming Hindu Militant Leaders's Rath Yatra to Panjab Protest: Black Flags by Panthic Groups The Old and Young Beaten Humiliated by the Security Forces With their Dastars Removed, the Protestors were publicly paraded bare-headed and then locked up in temporary Jail Cells

Why NOT? ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਰੋਗੀ ਵਿਚਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਾਰ ਕਮਾਈ ॥ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਤਿਸਹਿ ਨ ਚੇਤਹਿ ਬਪੁੜੇ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥ (ਅੰਗ ੭੩੫) According to Gurbani Brahma, Bishan, Mahadeo (Shiv) are all diseased and stuck in their own Hoamai (Ego). I have read on this message board certain sant followers post statements by such and such so-called "mahapurakhs" and "brahmgianis" that believed that these devi/devtaas reside in SachKhand have no idea what SachKhand is. If one can not rid their own ego, then how can reach such a place as SachKhand? Gurbani is clear these devi/devtas have done a lot of jap/tap, but are nowhere near the level of Guru Sahiban or Gursikhs.

http://panthic.org/articles/5388

http://www.panthic.org/articles/5375 CULPRIT REPORTEDLY CAUGHT IN LATEST DESECRATION OF GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI'S SAROOP PANTHIC.ORG | Published on September 3, 2011 The aprehended suspect was identified as 'Tarsem' by Batala Police Batala, Punjab (KP) - In the latest incident of sacrilege where angs from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Saroop were torn by some mischievous elements, the Batala Police announced that they had apprehended the culprit responsible for this beadbi. The individual was identified as Tarsem, son of Surta Singh, a resident of village Behoja, District Gurdaspur, a village near the outskirts of the town of Mehta. The police stated that Tarsem was arrested on August 2nd of 2011, and was reportedly intoxicated when he committed the desecration. As is often the case in Punjab, Police statements are rarely verified or corroborated independently. Images of the torn angs from Guru Granth Sahib Ji's saroop Initial reports stated that local sevadars from the village they discovered Guru Sahib Ji's Saroop was lying on the ground in the Gurdwara Sahib's main hall, as if it had been intentionally thrown from the Manji Sahib. Upon close examination they found that more than a dozen angs from the Holy Saroop were torn, with a least one ang completely missing. Guru Granth Sahib Ji Satkar Committee Mukh-sevadar Bhai Balbir Singh Muchhal, Baba Nishan Singh, Sukhpal Singh and Satnam Singh had also reached the scene to get apprised of the situation from the local sangat. Sadly, this is the second incident of desecration within the last three weeks that has been publicly reported in Punjab. Earlier, on August 12th, culprits in the village of Udhampur Nallan desecrated two Saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji by throwing them in a muddy well and pouring alcohol over the Holy Scriptures. One culprit was reportedly arrested in connection to the Udhampur Nallan incident and currently under Police protection. Panthic groups are questioning the continued silence and inaction by the ruling Akali Dal Badal government, the Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) to prevent such sacrileges in Punjab's Gurdwaras. While the Akalis and the SGPC politicans, along with thier newly found partners, the dubious charlatans of the Sant-Samaj seem too busy vying and buying votes for the upcoming SGPC elections, the issue of respect and reverence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji will likely be overlooked and ignored by these 'Thekedars of the Panth' (self-styled Sikh leaders) unless they can gains political mileage out of by raking public emotion.

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Akali Dal Mann representatives have stated that this news is incorrect, his actual statement was that those ex-Kharkoos who are siding with Badal are associated with the "govt" and responsible for the death of Bhai Gurjant Singh BhudhSinghwala, and Bhai Sukhdev Singh Babbar, and he also publicly apologized for taking part in Dhumma's installation ceremony in 2004. Akali Dal Mann reps are supposed to issue a clarification on this in the next couple of days.

GPS Jeeo, Not at all, Naam Simran is the essence of Gurbani and central to all Sikhs. I think you misunderstood my post. My point was that the youth of today who associate with certain samperdais and dals are well known to also mock Naam Simran in the same manner, but there is never any reaction at that time. I think when naastic missionaries and kala-afghanis do something wrong we tend to make a big deal out of it, but when "our own" groups do something we deliberately become silent or ignore it. Look at all the stuff going on in many deras by all these sant babays, went tend to look the other way, this is not right. What is wrong is wrong, who ever does it.

So what is the big deal now? Taksali and Nihang youth have been poking fun at Naam Simran and at Akhand Kirtani Jatha for years. Those whose hearts are empty and deviod of Naam can never accept the kirpa of Naam for anyone. ਜਿਉ ਜਿਉ ਰਾਮ ਕਹਹਿ ਜਨ ਊਚੇ ਨਰ ਨਿੰਦਕ ਡੰਸੁ ਲਗਾਇ ॥੩॥