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  1. 70s and 80s Sikhs were real Sikhs and were clued up about Sikhi. in 1970s you had the sikh struggles of punjabi suba morcha's going on in india and in the west we had Sikhs struggling for basic civil rights against racist white extremists. In early 1980s we had the southall riots against racist white thugs which led anti-sikh racist prime minister Margret Thatcher to give aid and assistance to indira gandhi to genocide the Sikhs in punjab. The lapsed Sikhs who had become westernised atheists got shooked by attack on darbar sahib started to learn about Sikhi and become die hard Sikhs more so than born keshdhari sikhs giving up alcohol and wanting to wage war against indian army. But after 1990s things calmed down alot and Sikhs went back to a dormant state. The Sikh the community in 1970s/80s was alot more tight nit and looking out for each other than they are now. There was no generous roadshow langars, no fake sikh charities khalsa aid giving sangats precious aid to non-sikhs in far off exotic places where no one cares about Sikhs or wants to become a Sikh. The late Bhai Jagraj Singh of basics of Sikhi had identified the problems and was helping change the thinking of younger Sikhs into becoming more Sikh centric. Some conspiracy theorists say he was poisoned and killed off by non-sikh powers that didnt like his pro-sikhi parchar and how he was creating a revolution in thinking amoung Sikhs. If we look at basics of sikhi right now its become a lefty liberal nonsense of a organisation with uninspiring shows afraid to tackle real issues and call out parasites attacking the kaum be they muslim groomers trying to groom sikh girls, islamic extremists attacking sikhs or other aggressors .
  2. It is the very wrong interruptions of sarbat da bhalla and langar is the core of the issue it seems. propagated by either well meaning kind hearted but low IQ Sikhs or far lefty liberal sikhphobic atheist punjabi's who maybe born in Sikh families but have no understanding or love for Sikhs and sikhi preaching to Sikhs how sikhs conducting their own religious affairs I and alot of the Sikhs on this forum identified the current problem and state of the sikhs many years ago about how the kaum was too generous and respectful almost sub-service to non-sikhs especially sweet talking muslims with little or nothing in return when we needed help ie our getting our own nation statehood back, non-punjabi Sikhs given asylum and refuge in the west if they cant be protected in islamic hellholes like afghanistan pakistan kashmir,etc . The correct interpretation of sarbat da bhalla should be: we Sikhs wish well for all of humanity we seek brotherhood in diversity. However we will look after our own Sikh brothers and sisters first always and if oppressed others need urgent help who come to us we will not turn them away. The correct interpretation of Guru Ka Lanagar should be: we Sikhs as servants of the Guru will serve the Sikh sangat free food/drink and those respectful non-sikhs who come to guru's house (gurdwara) will not be turned away and given it too. But in order to receive langar they will be given sikhi parchar and if they can offer some donation financially or in terms of resources, manpower for Sikh causes it is to be welcomed. The current state of things at the moment is opposite and upside down. The low IQ Sikhs seem to want to help and feed non-Sikhs first rather than our follow believers in faith. And wish well for non-sikhs first than their own kaum. We can see this with how the vulnerable innocent afghan Sikhs the bravest and gems of Sikhi have been left to suffer under the hands of muslims in afghanistan and then murdered in cold blood by islamic extremists recently while ironically they were praying for all of humanity in protection against the corona virus. If we do not protect and speak out for our own most vulnerable against non-sikh aggressors than we can not blame anyone but ourselves if Sikhs are taken as a joke especially the so called saint soldiers the khalsa and if our demographics and influence in the world declines rapidly.
  3. I saw a news piece today of well meaning Sikhs providing free langar/aid/shopping to people in southall and slough. Every time i hear of charity and religious groups helping people its always the Sikhs or Christians very rarely I'll see muslims, hindus and buddhists helping non-believers of their faith. Buddhists I don't hear ever doing anything for non-buddhists yet they command a religious following of 500 million+ believers in their ideology. They have 3-4 countries to their name also and generally have a better representation and PR than Sikhs. Afghan sikhs have long complained of persecution from local muslims and jihadi terrorists but most world governments drag their feet in helping them by not giving them urgent immediate refuge instead many in the past have had to risk their lives illegally traveling in shipping containers where a few died few years ago. Surely Sikhs are missing something here? It seems to me no matter how much our people do for charity for non-believers that will all be forgotten as soon as anything negative comes up. There needs to be a trade off. If a non-believer gets langar they must do something for Sikhs or Sikhi even if its just free sewa like wash the dishes. I was humbled when I saw an irish non-sikh guy who had an homelessness and alcoholic problem who used to come to my local gurdwara to get langer but in return as a give back to the community he used to wash the dishes. That guy has passed away now but it shows how much he appreciated and grateful to Sikhs and how Sikhs appreciated him in return. We need a something for something culture brought back not something for nothing as we all known when something is free it is not valued as its considered like air or water. When theres value to something people appreciate it alot more this is how human beings are and we need to wake up to that fact.
  4. I agree its mother natures/God's will for whatever happens, we can't control it or accurately predict what the future may-hold. For me these maybe the possible positive outcomes, others may not see it this way are: Sikhs will learn to rely on each other and help each other. And be less tolerant of arrogant self promoting Sikhs who giving away sangat's hard earned money donations, food and aid to non-believers outside of guru's home and guru's kitchen. The sangat will come down on them like a tonne of bricks to stop their madness soon enough or just not donate to them. More people will turn to God and learn about and convert to sikhi. Liberal no IQ Sikhs will start to come back to the faith. Others with some intelligence will use their time to learn about Sikh faith and history read up on important aspects of Sikhi they may have misjudged or not understood before. Hardship will make Sikhs more eager to defend Sikhi and less tolerant of aggressors like in 1980s/90s House prices will come down eventually meaning they will start to become affordable for first time buyers During the lock down or periods of unemployment we can use our time more time to better educate ourselves There's less pollution in the skies and rivers now that less people are out and about in heavy industries. The rich and poor are in the same boat this virus has shown it doesn't discriminate nations, ethnicity, religions, wealth, etc. It has leveled everyone to the same level of having to stay indoors unless they an essential worker
  5. That video posted by shaster singh maybe "fake news" and filmed years ago before this corona thing broke out but make no mistake here is disgusting shaytanic isis type of muslims out there that want to harm peaceful muslims and non-muslims alike. I saw posts by many muslim on social media like instagram in january stating that coronavirus is divine punishment from allah against the chinese for their treatment of ughiur muslims putting them in re-education camps. Disgusting muslim zealots like the ones below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkHg7BdCF8s
  6. Most of the postmen and delivery drivers in london are muslims. It seems a particular type of inhumane evil minded muslims who are determined to spread coronavirus plague. The only thing people can do is make sure they do not open their post until a few days receiving it and/or sanitizing it with anti-bacterial products.
  7. The pakistani muslims main grievance with Sikh rule of maharajah ranjit singh was that he allegedly used the open air courtyard of badshahi masjid for his troops horses. That they did not allow the azaan to be called from minarets (which was used to disturb the the peace and harmony of punjab). That ranjit singh allegedly opened coffin of a dead muslim woman and stole her quran? (mad unfounded accusations). At least the Sikhs let the muslims remain muslims during his raj. At least the Sikhs didnt kill muslims or oppressed them to the extent they rather died than live under Sikh rule. The Sikhs understood the needs of muslims and let them live and let live as long as they did not rebel against the Sikh government and as long as they didnt harm the Sikhs. Things were beautiful its only when the arab influenced wahaabi salaafi type jihadi extremist muslims came and british empire invaders came did they disturb the peace and brotherhood of glorious Sikh ruled punjab. Now compare that to the zulum and brutalities musilm rulers inflicted on the Sikhs and other punjabis in the past. And to this day the amount of attacks and blood shed of Sikhs is unforgivable and intolerable. Yet the muslims of indian subcontinent have the cheek to say Sikh rule oppressed muslims and so hold this deep hate for us.
  8. The pakistani army had this retard in prison for protesting against the removal of blasphemy laws, he then brought out his goons to block traffic and cause chaos on pakistani roads. The molvi's are the real bastaards of pakistan who get their orders and funding from rich arabs and then they put pressure on the pakistani government and army to do things that they want them to do. When Sikhs from pakistan tell us they are safe and happy in pakistan you know their lying they can't speak out of their true feelings because of molvi's like this guy making their lives very difficult. They are 2nd most oppressed Sikh community in the world the first being afghan sikhs.
  9. Islamic State Khorasan chief Mawlawi Abdullah, mastermind behind Kabul Gurdwara attack, arrested Updated Apr 04, 2020 | 21:30 IST The Islamic State had claimed the responsibility for the terror attack on a Gurudwara in central Kabul on March 25 in which at least 27 Sikhs were killed. File photo of Kabul Gurdwara attack mastermind Mawlawi Abdullah | Photo Credit: ANI Kabul: Afghan forces on Saturday arrested the chief of terror outfit Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP), Mawlawi Abdullah aka Aslam Farooqui for plotting the attack on a gurdwara in Kabul last month. The ISKP had claimed responsibility for the attack, which killed at least 27 Sikhs, on a Gurdwara in the capital Kabul city. According to the sources, Afghanistan's Intel Agency, National Directorate of Security (NDS), has confirmed the arrest of IS Khorasan Chief. The NDS said Aslam Farooqui had links with Pakistan based terror networks like Lashkar-e-Tayebba and Haqqani network. Four Pakistani nationals and Islamic State members - Masoudullah from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Khan Mohammad from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Salman from Karachi, and Ali Mohammad from Islamabad - have also been arrested in connection with the Kabul Gurdwara attack, news agency ANI quoted sources as saying. Mawlawi Abdullah, who is a Pakistani national, had replaced Mawlawi Zia-ul-Haq aka Abu Omar Khorasani as the ISKP chief in April 2019. He belongs to the Mamozai tribe and from the Orakzai agency area on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. March 25 Kabul Gurdwara attack At least 27 Sikhs, including a child, were killed and eight others left injured when heavily-armed gunmen and suicide bombers stormed a gurudwara in Afghanistan's Kabul on March 25. All four terrorists were killed by the Afghan security forces. Earlier, Indian intelligence agencies had hinted that the LeT and Haqqani network could be responsible for the attack on Sikhs in Afghanistan. Afghanistan government too had blamed the Haqqani for the terror attack while the Taliban denied its role. Indian government strongly condemned the attack and extended condolences to the immediate family members of the deceased and wished a speedy recovery to the injured. "India stands ready to extend all possible assistance to the affected families of the Hindu and Sikh community of Afghanistan," the government said in a statement. https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/islamic-state-khorasan-chief-mawlawi-abdullah-mastermind-behind-kabul-gurdwara-attack-arrested/573921
  10. khadim hussain rizvi the new kuttah Islamic brelvi sunni extremist molvi praising the killings of hindus and sikhs.
  11. Thank god for sikhi and making us Sikhs and not like the unbeliever low IQ arab worshipping muslims
  12. Great suggestions and views even if i may not agree with alot of what is said. I recently saw how pakistani muslims afraid of sikhs turning against them started to claim the islamic terrorist who murdered those poor afghan sikhs recently was done by indian government instead of outright condemning islamic extremists in their midsts. They must think we are really stupid and as a result gullible low IQ sikhs or those scared to upset muslims/islam started to believe the narrative and make excuses for islam and muslim terrorists even though proof is staring them in the face with isis providing video and photo's of the jihadi beast giving his last testimony. Then in other videos some of pakistani muslims uploaded videos of extremist mullahs preaching hate in how the created pakistan for muslims by killing sikhs and hindus and same should be done in kashmir in other videos preaching of mullahs in how they converted sikh women to to islam and in other videos making fun of a drunk jatt sikh clown and then defaming the whole sikh community saying this is what sikhs are. We have to remember as much as the muslims may sweet talk the Sikhs they view us as enemy of islam and will be treated as such when and as the opportunity arises. They use psychological warfare techniques on our kaum to the level that most of our janta does not even comprehend they are being groomed and played with for islam and pakistan's benefit. Instead of buying into the narrative of muslims. Sikhs should have been distancing themselves from muslims especially when they are denying that muslims can carry out such attacks against minorities. If the muslim terrorists dont even spare their own fellow muslims who disagree with them what do they think the life and liberty of a non-muslim would be? As for those who say serving langar to muslims or non-sikhs in general is a good thing and gurmat. I would like to ask them which guru went around serving langar to muslims like a subjugated dhimmi. Did the guru's go running around giving langar to needy (let alone non-sikh healthy resourceful communities) or did the people in need come to guru's darbar to eat langar with the sikhs? Sikhs from khalsa aid and such orgs are an absolute disgrace as they are doing anti-gurmat activities the only credit they would get is helping the desperate friendless yazidi's and the homeless (both communities are like the sikhs...yazidis persecuted by sunni muslims to extinctions and homeless are like us we do not have our own homeland to give shelter, safeguard our lives and interests). Apart from that no other non-sikh community should be given sangat's limited resources for langar or manpower help especially as no community comes to our aid when we need it like right now afghan sikhs are on verge of extinction thanks to islam so which muslim org as come forward to donate money or airlift them to safety or give them guards for security in afghanistan? which non-sikhs came to the aid of punjabi sikhs while they were being murdered in their own homes by the indian state? We must realise we are alone and we only have our own sikh sangat that we should rely on the most only then will we be able to solve problems we face as a stateless minority community.
  13. Don't be suprised if alot of videos that exposed these people and things go missing. The so called protecting kids and hate speech is a sham its actually denying free speech and free expression of thought. Cos alot of mild videos with alternative views and thoughts are taken down and channels closed for no reason. There are some nasty racist and pedofiles that deserved their channels closed but those warning people about stuff and videos even featuring crimes by governments and groups they got taken down too. Yet they were important in highlighting the crimes of these people so people could see the truth about what they got up to.
  14. Here is my list of current problems we face as a kaum. Traveling around giving aid / langar to non-sikhs. This thought was put into Sikh psyche as a strategy to destroy Sikhs from within by the enemy who wanted to move Sikhs away from position of strength to weakness. Guru ka langar never went around the world helping non-sikhs like this. Guru Ka langar was based on giving langar to the local sangat community. However was the non-sikh poor masses who came to the Sikhs and gurdwara's to get langar and get parchar to convert to Sikhi that made non-sikhs want to be a Sikh. This current innovation which has been created and run by idiots and is wasting sangats money giving langar away for free with no benefits for the kaum. The biggest gift a Sikh can give to a non-sikh is parchar because by that parchar the Sikh too will have to reform their character to live by what they preach. Not having well armed sewadaar guards of Gurdwara's. Safety and security of guru's house and his congregation should be paramount yet what do we see today? any afghan ahmed abdali, isis salafi muhammad musin, mughal aurangzeb can walk in and kill without any hindrance like we seen recently. What is the fall out? Sikhs will stop coming to gurdwara's and thus gurdwara commitee's lose income and gurdwara shuts down eventually. The non-muslim hating conquest loving isis type jihadi mullah nutjob wins as sikhi is seen as weak and finished eventually because gurdwara's are no longer safe spaces for people wanting to worship and congregate. Sikhs of sarbat da bhulla mindset. Well meaning humanitarian liberal Sikhs but very gullible very politically and religiously naive not understand the full context of meaning of sarabat da bhalla and when to apply it. perhaps most of them have a sort of stockholm sydromme imprisoned by cultures and ideologies that are against Sikh interests and prevent their own community to survive. Fake Sikh puppet leaders. They are only in it for their own power, fame/popularity contest or financial gain (eg recent akal takht jathedhars, sgpc leaders, DT harnaam singh, Badal dal, congressi captain amrinder singh, etc). We need to support leaders who openly fight for the interests of Sikhs without being shy about it. Not having our own sovereign state nation. To conduct our own economic, military, religious and political affairs is the very reason we have so many problems. But its not necessary for the community to survive and thrive if other problems are dealt with. Inter-faith marriages and lack of promotion of inter-caste or inter-race Sikh marriages. Sikhs should activity promote inter-caste marriages within punjabis at the very least and help promote those non-sikhs to convert to Sikhi to marry someone within the faith.
  15. There's always a few useful idiots like the "sikhs for justice" khalistan 2020 campaigners who dont know the real picture for Sikhs in pakistan. It is quite telling that alot of hardcore older Khalistani's who fought the indian state once hailed pakistan govt and people now speaking out of the true intentions of the corrupt oppressive islamic regime. - They are witnessing pakistani Sikh civilians getting randomly killed here and there by "unknown" gunmen (muslim zealots). And their murders are often blamed on "fueding" hindu and sikhs which is very dubious. - Their Sikh daughters and sisters harassed by muslims (egged on by the state and religious bodies) to convert to islam telling them their faith is hellbound and inferiour. - Some muslims who come to pakistani gurdwara's disrespect it by smoking in gurdwara grounds and abusing the congregation fighting with the sangat. - When pakistani taliban and various jihadi mafia gangs entered Sikh area's of NWFP pakistan they enforced extortionate jizya on them in the knowledge they wont be able to pay so must convert or leave their ancestral lands for safer area's - Patriot Pakistani Sikh politicians standing for leading parties sent death threats and killed eventually. - Every attack on Sikhs by muslims is hushed up by the state and media and even pakistani Sikhs themselves for fear of reprisals of muslim mobs - Gurdwara's attacked few times by muslim zealots and mobs, saroops of SGGS Ji attacked and burnt in few incidents - Pakistani drama's often depict Sikhs as murderers of muslims and haters of pakistan or jokers and clowns same as bollywood - Pakistani educational text books feature Sikhs and sikh rule in negative light often making Islam look like a blessing - Pakistani ISI funding in part neo-al-qaeda (islamic state khorasan) jihadi attacks on innocent vulnerable afghan Sikhs I could go on and on about the oppression pakistani Sikhs face and faced but i think people get the picture
  16. The best chance pakistan had to "liberate" punjab/khalistan from indian rule and make it a vassal tributary sikh state for it was in 1984 operation blue star. Had they crossed the border to help the Sikh separatists and those dharmi yudhai who fought valiantly by themselves defending darbar sahib they then would have been supported by the Sikh masses of the punjab countryside and the full blown insurgency + pakistani army would have overun the indian troops in punjab which would have enabled pakistan to take Kashmir much easier. They chickened out or slyly backed out like a snake and let the Sikhs get slaughtered while they watched from a distance laughing and hi5ing each other then getting ready for the Sikh rebel influx into pakistan in which they had already planned training camps for them to hit indian targets. Pakistani ISI played their part to checkmate Indian R&AW who were caught oping and playing catch up. The Pakistani ISI was created by the British m16 in early 1950s whereas R&AW was created in late 1960s with heavy influence from USSR KGB. So pakistan had 10years ahead of the indians and helped with training and tactics by western intelligence agencies against USSR soviet backed Indian govt.
  17. pakistan's support to Khalistani's were on the basis of being cannon fodder to keep indian army at bay and busy while the afghan jihad was going on and resources were poured over there. Once the afghanistan campaign was coming to an end and soviets looking to withdraw they switched their true attentions and passion for capturing all of kashmir by kicking off things there.
  18. As this virus is out doing its worst in the world and we have evil sunni salafi islamic terrorists running around harming our people and other innocents. I think its time we did some reading and reflection on what sikhi and sikh history says about testing and trying times. Post any relevant gurbani scriptures or sikh ithihaas stories that may inspire others Heres mine: ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਨਿਤਾਣਿਆ ਕਾ ਤਾਣੁ ॥ साहिबु निताणिआ का ताणु ॥ Sāhib niṯāṇi▫ā kā ṯāṇ. Our Lord and Master is the Power of the powerless. ਆਇ ਨ ਜਾਈ ਥਿਰੁ ਸਦਾ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਸਚੁ ਜਾਣੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ आइ न जाई थिरु सदा गुर सबदी सचु जाणु ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥ Ā▫e na jā▫ī thir saḏā gur sabḏī sacẖ jāṇ. ||1|| rahā▫o. He does not come or go; He is Eternal and Permanent. Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, He is known as True. ||1||Pause|| ਜੇ ਕੋ ਹੋਵੈ ਦੁਬਲਾ ਨੰਗ ਭੁਖ ਕੀ ਪੀਰ ॥ जे को होवै दुबला नंग भुख की पीर ॥ Je ko hovai ḏublā nang bẖukẖ kī pīr. If you are weakened by the pains of hunger and poverty, ਦਮੜਾ ਪਲੈ ਨਾ ਪਵੈ ਨਾ ਕੋ ਦੇਵੈ ਧੀਰ ॥ दमड़ा पलै ना पवै ना को देवै धीर ॥ Ḏamṛā palai nā pavai nā ko ḏevai ḏẖīr. with no money in your pockets, and no one will give you any comfort, ਸੁਆਰਥੁ ਸੁਆਉ ਨ ਕੋ ਕਰੇ ਨਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਕਾਜੁ ॥ सुआरथु सुआउ न को करे ना किछु होवै काजु ॥ Su▫ārath su▫ā▫o na ko kare nā kicẖẖ hovai kāj. and no one will satisfy your hopes and desires, and none of your works is accomplished - ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਨਿਹਚਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਰਾਜੁ ॥੨॥ चिति आवै ओसु पारब्रहमु ता निहचलु होवै राजु ॥२॥ Cẖiṯ āvai os pārbarahm ṯā nihcẖal hovai rāj. ||2|| if you then come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall obtain the eternal kingdom. ||2|| ਜਾ ਕਉ ਚਿੰਤਾ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਦੇਹੀ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਰੋਗੁ ॥ जा कउ चिंता बहुतु बहुतु देही विआपै रोगु ॥ Jā ka▫o cẖinṯā bahuṯ bahuṯ ḏehī vi▫āpai rog. When you are plagued by great and excessive anxiety, and diseases of the body; ਗ੍ਰਿਸਤਿ ਕੁਟੰਬਿ ਪਲੇਟਿਆ ਕਦੇ ਹਰਖੁ ਕਦੇ ਸੋਗੁ ॥ ग्रिसति कुट्मबि पलेटिआ कदे हरखु कदे सोगु ॥ Garisaṯ kutamb paleti▫ā kaḏe harakẖ kaḏe sog. when you are wrapped up in the attachments of household and family, sometimes feeling joy, and then other times sorrow; ਗਉਣੁ ਕਰੇ ਚਹੁ ਕੁੰਟ ਕਾ ਘੜੀ ਨ ਬੈਸਣੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ गउणु करे चहु कुंट का घड़ी न बैसणु सोइ ॥ Ga▫oṇ kare cẖahu kunt kā gẖaṛī na baisaṇ so▫e. when you are wandering around in all four directions, and you cannot sit or sleep even for a moment - ਚਿਤਿ ਆਵੈ ਓਸੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਨੁ ਮਨੁ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਹੋਇ ॥੩॥ चिति आवै ओसु पारब्रहमु तनु मनु सीतलु होइ ॥३॥ Cẖiṯ āvai os pārbarahm ṯan man sīṯal ho▫e. ||3|| if you come to remember the Supreme Lord God, then your body and mind shall be cooled and soothed. ||3|| - Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ang 70 ================================================= The Great Battle of Balakot Between Wahaabi Salafi Jihadi's and Sikh Imperial Army - Khalsa Fauj The destruction of the foremost <Edited> Jihad. The battle of Balakot marks an extremely important revolution in the Sikh affairs of the late 1700’s. Inspired by extremism and an answer to the decadent policies of the virtually extinct mughal empire, the battle was the first jihad launched via the Wahaabi ideology. It aimed to usher Punjab into an Islamic past which would rival the golden age of the mughal state. Lead by a fanatical individual it aimed to eradicate the Sikh empire, expand the new state’s border to connect with British India and ultimately birth an extensively powerful Islamic state. Plans which were paid put by the Khalsa forces. The battle was the brainchild of Syed Ahmed, a deeply religious Islamic individual who has been awarded the honor of being the first indigenous Jihadi of the Indian sub-continent. He was born in Rai Breli in 1786 A.D., a time when the mughal state’s funeral bells were pealing with ever greater pitch. The Maratha confederacy had turned on their Mughal masters and had succeeded in establishing an independent domain of sorts, despite being severely mauled by the ferocious Afghanis. The Sikhs had succeeded in liberating major portions of Punjab and planting the seeds of a powerful and Alexandrian empire, whilst a major portion of the sub-continent was divided among various warlords, generals and princes. Maharajah Ranjit Singh. Syed Ahmed easily garnered the factor that attacking the British, who were a rising power, would earn him no territorial merit. It would only invoke the latter’s wrath upon him and crush his campaign. The Marathas despite being severely weakened by their engagements with the Afghanis, Sikhs and the British still presented a murderous front to any potential invader. This only left the Sikh empire, an isolated but extensively impregnable domain ruled over by Maharajah Ranjit Singh. An awe-inspiring Napoleonic figure in his own right. Ahmed based his assumptions on the Afghani intolerance of the Sikh infidels. He unwittingly assumed that the Afghani polity would aide him in crushing the infidel and liberating what he saw as being an oppressed populace. With these potential factors as his basis, Ahmed left his family and with total faith in Allah traversed towards Peshawar. His journey was arduous and extensively bone breaking. He took a route via Sindh, Quetta, Qandhar and Kabul, and arrived heavily exhausted in Peshawar where he outlined his plan to the various regional warlords and warrior populace. An extensive number of these individuals had prior to Ahmed’s arrival, crossed steel with the Khalsa forces and were heavily disillusioned by his ineptness and heavy reliance on fate amalgamated with luck. After depicting their ridicule of his planned campaign they left him, yet despite this failure, on Ahmed’s part, he still managed to raise a detachment of Mujhaideen warriors who being hot-blooded and head strong readily agreed to attack Sikh domains. Led by Ahmed they succeeded in attacking a few Sikh territories but were mostly beaten back, which subsequently lowered their morale and provoked no reaction from the Khalsa border forces. Ahmed on seeing this and after conferencing with his accomplices, including Shah Ismail the grandson of Shah Waliulah of Delhi, decided on a new course of action. He adopted a nomadic agenda and continually traveled from one province frontier to it’s neighbor until ultimately he set foot in Balakot in 1831 A.D. Foregoing all militaristic and rational notions, Ahmed’s strategy was to engage the Sikh in the mountains of Balakot, annihilate them and conquer neighboring Kashmir; another extended domain of Ranjit Singh’s regional fiefdom. “I am in the mountains of Pakhli (name of the area). The people here have welcomed us with warmth and hospitality and have given us a place to stay. They have also promised to support us in the jihad. For the time being, I am camped in the town of Balakot, which is located in the (river) Kunhar pass. The army of the infidels [kuffars] is camped not too far from us. Since Balakot is located at a secure place (surrounded by hills and bounded by the river), God willing, the infidels will not be able to reach us. Of course, we may choose to advance and enter into a battle at our own initiative. And this we intend to do in the next two or three days. With the help of God, we will be victorious. If we win this battle, and, God willing, we will, then we will occupy all the land alongside the Jehlum River including the Kingdom of Kashmir. Please pray, day and night, for our victory.” -Syed Ahmad’s letter to an accomplice. Hari Singh Nalwa, the lion-shredder, was the viceroy and commander-in-chief of the Punjab territories encircling Balakot. An intelligent and fearsome general Hari Singh commanded his main captain Sher Singh to encircle Balakot and move a battalion of the Khalsa forces to Muzaffarabad. A few companies also surrounded Mitti Kot, the mountainous terrain encircling Ahmed’s forces. Ahmed after surveying the battlefield had it flooded to encumber the attacking Khalsa forces. Headlong he fell into the elaborate trap planned by his foes, the Khalsa nerve-center had easily maneuvered it’s foe into the very position the latter had wanted to encumber the Khalsa in. On the days catalyzing in commencement of the battle a mujhaideen foolishly charged the Khalsa companies keeping him under surveillance. He became encumbered by the very mud which Ahmed had planned to annihilate the Khalsa opposition in. Khalsa snipers soon finished him off via their bullets. Realizing that his elaborate trap had been exposed, with the crack of dawn Ahmed ordered a headlong charge into the Khalsa forces. Discarding all caution the mujhaideen vainly charged the joyous Khalsa who readily clashed with it. Amongst cries of Allah, and Waheguru a bloody slaughter commenced in which the mujhaideen were rapidly dispatched to their resting regions. It is believed that 1300 mujhaideen blindly lost their lives that fateful day, with the Khalsa receiving only a few casualties. The first indigenous sub-continental jihad met it’s demise in a bloody fashion.
  19. Very sad story, the shahadat that our women folk have given to the kaum's struggles is not highlighted or appreciated enough. as we seen in the latest punjab police brutality on people of punjab because of coronavirus and people venturing out in the streets are beaten badly for humiliation and degradation purposes. Those powers to do that to people are given by the Director general of police, political state authorities and national central government It is the corrupt people above the level of individual corrupt cops that sanction such treatment. So all those who were in charge should have been held accountable too in 80s 90s. If they werent brought to book by indian justice system than it can be justified that if they were dealt with by Sikh fighters then it was fine as per laws of natural justice.
  20. You're right, the worlds intelligence agencies are in all but name terrorist funders and trainers. Alot of there agents are actual terrorists with licenses to kill covered by diplomatic immunity by their respect governments. The deeper level of shadowy political powers that are behind who they back as leaders is very covert and hash hash often exposed only by chance by ex-agents or by intelligent geo-political conspiracy theorist analysts who happen to put pieces of jigsaw together to see whats really going on behind the scenes.
  21. I think your probably right on that. I was reading an article few years ago where some where it had suggested that it was sanjay gandhi (indira gandhi's eldest son) the apple of her eye that was a KGB asset being heavily influenced by KGB soviet agenda together with arun gandhi who had hatred for Sikhs that drew up policies targeting an interference in Sikh religious and political affairs and then the follow up genocides.
  22. We should also recall that kashmiri Sikhs who witnessed the attackers spoke of how they saw some of the muslim guys in their village on few occasions and on that fateful day they talked to the victims before taking them out from their homes and lining them up at the walls of the gurdwara sahib to be shot dead. They wore military type combat uniforms (probably supplied by pakistani ISI) you will often see these type of outfits of salafi jihadis in kashmir. Crucial give away they were not from India was that they wore different type of boots than those worn by indian army. In a snapshot of video testimony of the indian muslim jihadi isis terrorist who attacked kabul's afghan sikhs, I saw him wearing combat army fatigue. And in a afghan sikh self made made video of kabul attack incident, the body of a young jihadi attacker in afghan police uniform with his head blown off on the floor being kicked by afghan army personnel. In conclusion we should have had heavily armed Sikh guards within and outside of these highly vulnerable gurdwara's it is the responsibility of the global kaum and gurdwara committee to have ensured this was the case long ago. It is also gurmat and part of Sikh traditions and history to protect with the exercise of weapons of gurdwaras and the sangat. The intelligence failure and failing to act on security threats is our biggest weakness leading to these kinda soft targets getting easily victimsed by evil scumbags. Our gurdwara's our villages our towns our area's tend to be open to all of humanity but in that trade off the defense and security should be the most compared to any other religion cos of its openness.
  23. All i've seen is condemnation from well meaning individual humanitarian muslims. An ahmediya religious org (who are considered non-muslim heritics anyways). And that's about it disgraceful and shameful that no religious salafi / sunni ulama of pakistan, india or arab lands has spoken out or issued fatwa's to probit such acts or find those responsible and punish them. So we can draw conclusions from that they think its ok its islamically fine to murder our innocent Sikh men, women and kids attack the sanctuary of our guru's home.
  24. I think we should also remember that the convicted white muslim terrorist david headley the lashar-e-toiba member who had deep hatred for non-muslims and india. Revealed many details to American and Indian interrogators about the role of pakistani ISI and its jihadi groups in 26/11/2008 mumbai attack and march 2000 chattisinghpora massare of Sikh civilians. British security services also believed it was the L-e-T that did attack on Sikhs back in 2000 when they banned membership of the group in the UK. ====================== Abu Jundal reveals LeT hand in massacre of Kashmir Sikhs in 2000 New Delhi, July 9 : 26/11 handler Abu Jundal has told Indian interrogators that the Chattisinghpora massacre in 2000 in which 35 Sikhs were killed was orchestrated by the Lashkar-e-Toiba group, Times of India reported. PTI Updated on: July 09, 2012 8:29 IST abu jundal reveals let hand in massacre of kashmir sikhs in 2000 New Delhi, July 9 : 26/11 handler Abu Jundal has told Indian interrogators that the Chattisinghpora massacre in 2000 in which 35 Sikhs were killed was orchestrated by the Lashkar-e-Toiba group, Times of India reported. For years, the Army was blamed for the massacre, but the revelation by Abu Jundal has changed the scenario. Jundal said, the massacre was planned and executed by LeT's operational hed Muzammil Butt. Abu Jundal, according to the TOI report, told interrogators that it was Muzammil, then operating in Kashmir, who along with dozen men in Army fatigues went to the village in Kashmir's Anantnag district on March 25, 2000 and killed 35 Sikhs. The aim was to create communal tension in the Valley on the eve of then US president Bill Clinton's visit to India and also malign the Indian Army. Sources said Jundal's interrogation had revealed that Muzammil, along with his associates, drew all the men of the village out of their homes and asked them to gather near the village gurdwara. The Lashkar men then shot 35 Sikhs in cold blood. The revelation is significant given that sections of Kashmiri political parties and civil rights activists in the country have always asserted that it was the handiwork of the Indian Army. Only last month, Hurriyat hardliner Syed Ali Shah Geelani demanded an international probe into the matter. Sources said Jundal's revelation has confirmed what agencies had always suspected based on credible information. However, no investigation into the incident has yet conclusively proved the hand of LeT. Investigating agencies had arrested two suspected Lashkar militants Mohd Suhail and Waseem Ahmed, who hailed from Sialkot and Gujranwala in Pakistan for the massacre. Both are still on trial. According to sources, Muzammil, who home minister P Chidambaram recently said had replaced Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi as LeT's operational head, was responsible for several more killings in the Valley and this was something he admitted to several of his LeT colleagues. Jundal was known to be close to Muzammil, who was part of the Karachi-based control room that directed the 26/11 attacks. An official in the know of Jundal's interrogation said, "This was something agencies always had an idea of. This information had also come up during the interrogation of David Coleman Headley. "Jundal is being quizzed on all the information available with the agencies and is confirming what he thinks agencies already know of. He is revealing little new information as yet." The revelation will be little relief for Army which has been in the dock for several extra-judicial killings, including the Pathribal encounter, post-Chhattisinghpora massacre. Until agencies find corroborative evidence to buttress this claim, the revelation will have little value in a court of law. =========== https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/abu-jundal-reveals-let-hand-in-massacre-of-kashmir-sikhs-in-200-16910.html
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