subaig singh mma

Thanks buddy. Been trying to get hold of this vid for a while and find it on Sikhsangat of all places lol. The muay thai clinch for mma by anderson silva DVD is also very good.

Interesting question. I dont really have the answer. But I suspect that it was nothing complicated or fancy. Certainly, wrestling, would have been part of the curriculum as many of the Sikh warriors of old, such as Hari Singh Nalwa, were great wrestlers. I suspect, that much of the training was bodyweight exercises such as dand (hindu push ups), baithak (hindu squats), twirling indian clubs, climbing ropes, and training with sacks of wheat and lifting stones. They certatinly didnt have commericial gyms and bodybuilding would have been considered a waste of time as it doesnt have any translation for the fitness, strength and endurance required for real fighting.

I think that it is a myth that some races are more martial than others. I believe that all humans have two arms and legs and that anyone can learn how to fight. I feel that one problem that some Sikhs suffer from is that they think that all they need to be good fighters is anakh, warrior spirit, or aggression. Sometimes this is reflected in their language, when they specify that they want to 'die for the panth' or sacrifice themselves or become shaheed. Clearly this kind of mentality exhibits a great deal of bravery and commitment to a cause, however, this is not the mentality with which battles/fights are won. In fact, many races, that do not share the Sikhs' enthusiasm for shaheedi and warrior spirit, do much better in street fights than many Sikhs do. We as a community should not be under any illusion about our vulnerablilties. In fact, we are more likely to survive, if we recognise ourselves as vulnerable and weak and organise our strategies around that concept. I think that we put too much pressure on ourselves and try to act like we should be able to fight sava lakh, despite doing no training. .. then we get all surprised and shocked that not only can we not fight sava lakh, but we cant even fight one-on-one. Why not just accept that we are no different to anyone else and have to put just as much time and effort into self protection as any other race/community. Regarding martial arts training, you need to be specific about your goal. Take my example, I train mixed martial arts, for the purpose of fighting in the cage and fight other guys one-on-one who have been training for the same purpose. In fact, fighting in the cage has been the culmination of about 12 years of experience in martial arts. In my case, I train for sporting purposes, and this does not necessarily translate that well to other areas such as street fighting, modern day battlefield etc. So, if you want to train for sport than recognise that you are doing that. If you want to train for the street, then the focus needs to be street martial arts. I recommend Krav Maga or other combative systems such as Urban Combatives by Lee Morrison or FAST defence. These are small curricula that are easy to learn and dont require many many years of training. Lee Morrison often states that if he cant teach you technqiues that you could go out and use effectively on the street in ten minutes, then you need to find another instructor. These kind of small combative systems were taught to soldiers in WW2 when they only had a few days training to learn how to fight hand to hand combat. One such manual of hand to hand combat can be found here: It is called Get Tough by WE Fairbairn and shows the kind of unarmed techniques that soldiers were taught before being sent to war: http://www.tsroadmap.com/early/tough.pdf One thing I would suggest when finding a martial art is that there needs to be an element of pressure testing in the art that you choose to persue. If you dont get to try your techniques out against a resisting opponent trying their best to stop you, then how will you make your moves work in a street fight? In that respect, thats why many sport martial artists such as boxers and wrestlers do better in street fighter because they are used to employing their techniques under pressure and against a resisting opponent. As an anecdote, I have a friend who learns shastar vidya from Niddar Singh who got into a street fight on a bus with several white youths. Whilst he did ok, he didnt do brilliantly and didnt use any of the techniques that he had learnt in the classes. Why? Because he never had the opportunity to pressure test his skills under the influence of adrenaline and emotional anger that you feel in a street fight when you are in a proper fight. That is why FAST training where you get to employ your techniques under pressure against a fully padded opponent are so important: If you train in sports combat, the advantage you have is that you will be used to pressure, adrenaline, fear and competition, ie fighting someone who is also trying to beat you. If you train street combatives or other martial arts then you need scenario training and full contact drill to simulate what a real fight feels like. Alot of people knock gatka and say that it has lost his martial sting. However, I bet if you put on protective equipment and used foam covered gatka sticks and went full contact, you would quickly learn what works and what doesnt and, as a direct consequence become alot more 'martial'.

vjkk vjkf Sikhs need to learn self protection and up-to-date, modern combative systems. The focus should be on avoidance of conflict and the use of verbal deterrants and controlling of personal space via a 'fence', backed up with a small but highly aggressive skillset to end violence quickly, as a last resort. The problem with Sikhs is that they dont take this kind of thing seriously. Even in Nottingham I have tried to run self protection classes but young people dont wanna know. There are two different kinds. Some just think that its not important and they dont need it. Others think that they are some kind of super hero babbar shere that are so hard that they dont need to learn this kind of stuff. ... Both get equally battered when it comes down to it. Even Singhs who do alot of 'combat sewa' for the panth could learn alot from modern combative systems and become alot more effective. I do not believe that vigilante groups are the answer to this problem. Because whilst the members of these groups may be able to handle themselves, they cant be everywhere all the time and weaker sikhs and the vulnerable will still get targeted. in fact attacks on weaker sikhs would probably increase with the rising of vigilante groups due to revenge attacks on easier targets. Whilst, I encourage people to defend themselves if there is no other choice, I do not think that it is wise to encourage sikhs to go out and fight and end up in jail with criminal records as that is simply not wise and not the sign of a well thought through and tactical strategy. Especially when our community will be the first to criticise them. In essence, Sikhs should take it upon themselves to take responsiblity for their own safety. I have said this a million times. People agree with me. Some come and train for a class or two then you never see them again. Every day you hear on Sikhsangat about sikhs getting battered, racism and beadbi. As a kaum we are all over the place. We have no strategy and get battered every day. When we do fight back, we just come out aggressively and attempt to fight battles that we cant win and still get battered as it is not co-ordinated and is more an emotional reaction than a tactical one. For more info on modern combative methods designed for people who deal with violence for a living such as bouncers, police, special forces, guards etc, read up on Lee Morrison, Urban Combatives, Geoff Thompson, Bill Kipp, FAST defence Vjkk vjkf

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vjkk vjkf Great news to hear that Sikhs have opened up a new gym. Its great to see Sikhs training and doing martial arts. Keep up the good work. Lets take over Vjkk vjkf

Cant blame kuriya for this. Its up to paghwale mundeh to sort themselves out, grow a backbone and behave like proper men. No point moaning about how life is so unfair and you cant get a job or a woman etc... Noones gonna give you anything on a plate, you gotta go out there and prove that your the best and if you dont marry a proper sardar you are losing out. Dont play the victim card. Lots of Singhs have no problems getting married and have beautiful wives and beautiful kids.

dear pehlvan, Basically, as a non amritdhari but kesadhari singh, I have no problems training with kes and daaraa. When I train I tie my hair into a guth and tie a jura at the back of my head. i cover my head with a patka and wear some wrestling ear guards over the top which stops me from getting cauliflower ears and keeps my patka on my head when grappling. I keep my daree open. When I fight, I go into the cage with a french plat with my head uncovered and this does not come undone. I think it would be very possible for amritdhari singhs to train in mma. You can easily keep a small kanga in the jura, wear a patka and use ear defenders to keep the patka on, or tie your patka under your chin like this singh wrestler in the video from punjab called jassa singh patti Here is a video of Gurjot Singh Kooner, an elite kesadhari wrestler from canada wrestling in a patka with ear defenders: Wear a thin karra and put a thick sweatband over it. Get some shorts and get a small pocket sewn in the waist band so that you can keep a small kirpan in there. Its all quite easy really. Just need to think outside the box. Good luck with it.

vjkk vjkf Singhs, I am glad in one respect that you guys are debating about which martial art is the best etc, because its important to pick the right martial art for you. Often people ask me which martial art to do, and really it depends on what your goals are. For myself, I want to fight in the cage which is a combat sport, therefore I need a good mix of combat sports such as Muay Thai, Wrestling, BJJ with a good healthy dose of hardcore fitness training and weights. However, not everyone wants to dedicate their whole life to fighting in the ring and most just want to be able to defend themselves or help defend the panth if need be. If you want to do mma, you need to seek out qualified instructors in proper clubs and yes you will have to train with non-Sikhs. This should not be a barrier to stop you from training, actually it is a good opportunity for integration and you will find that the best friends you ever make will be the guys/girls that you train with, and you will also have the added bonus of knowing that these guys also have your back if ever required. The advice I give to singhs who do not want to make a career out of mma but basically just want to defend themselves and stop themselves from getting bullied is basically to find ANY martial art and try to attend at least twice a week. This, coupled with some hardcore strength/powerlifting in the gym will make you a very tough individual indeed and you will wipe out 90% of the people you are ever likely to come across in a street fight. In summary: To fight in the ring, dedicate your life to martial arts and find the best instructors. For general self defence, find ANY martial art, stick with it, and get hench so people dont wanna fight you in the first place.

Vjkk vjkf My name is Subaig Singh. I am a mixed martial arts fighter (mma) fighter from Nottingham. I have been asked to post here and give any advice to sikhs who may be thinking about getting into mma. Firstly, it is important to understand that being an MMA fighter requires you to be competent in three ranges of combat. These ranges are: (1) Stand up striking eg. kicking and punching ala muay thai, karate, boxing, etc. (2) Clinch fighting eg wrestling and dirty boxing ( holding your opponent in a grip and hitting them) (3) Ground fighting eg. Submission fighting such as brazilian jujitsu, catch wrestling and sambo. Ground fighting also includes Ground and Pound strategy which involves taking a dominant pinning position over your opponent and hitting them. In order to fight in the ring, an exponent needs to take time to develop the above three ranges of combat and be comfortable in all of them. However it is also advisable to spend time specialising in one of these ranges. For example, BJ Penn is a great all round fighter, but his specialism is brazilian jujitsu, so he is at his best on the ground. Anderson silva is also a great all round fighter but he specialises in stand up striking. So how do we develop the techniques we need to fight? Before competing, I would recommend that you spend at least a couple of years at different clubs getting the basics together. For example, training muay thai twice a week and brazilian jujitsu twice a week would give a you a decent grasp of how to strike and how to grapple. However, it wouldnt develop a good understanding of clinch fighting so some training at a wrestling club on how to take people to the floor and prevent yourself being taken to the floor would be very beneficial. I cannot stress enough the importance of learning your skills in a proper club and under proper instruction. Brawlers and meatheads do not last very long in mma. It is a skill based activity. In the UK, the standard of groundfighting in mma is particularly weak so some solid brazilian ju jitsu training would be recommended, at least up to blue belt level. If you are already training, think about the skills you need to improve on most. Ie, if you are a black belt in karate, you will need to focus on your grappling and takedown defence most. If you are starting from scratch, I would recommend starting with a grappling martial art and taking it to a high level before you start cross training in other arts because grappling is the most dominant style of fighting in a one on one fight. For example you could start with judo, wrestling or brazilian jujitsu. This would give you a great grappling base. The other aspect of mma training is the strength and fitness required for it. You need strength, power, speed, agility, endurance and great cardio. Some of these attributes will be developed in the classes that you attend. However, at least two sessions in weights room per week would be required. If you are looking for a conditioning programme to follow, I would recommend getting hold of Eric Wong's Complete MMA Strength and Conditioning programme online. I have used this and it is very good. Clearly the subject of mma is a huge one and I have only scratched the surface of what is involved. However, it would be great to see more Sikhs doing mma and I firmly believe that Sikhs were born to do mma and could really make a name for themselves in the sport with the correct level of dedication and with quality instruction. I will be happy to take any questions and advise as best as I can. I myself have only started my career and I have alot to learn and a long way to go. vjkk vjkf.