MansWisdom

Yes paji I get what your saying, currently I am writing some questions reagarding these tuks that can be asked to sant jagjeet singh ji. I can't wait to see what the meanings are as I can't believe that gurbani can call the avtars worms? There is so much respect in gurbani for sants like be the dust of the feet of saints. The avatars were already pooran brahmgianis in their last life.. But how can guru ji call them worms if they were sachkandis, I think veechar is needed by a brahmgiani on this.. Hopefully with kirpa sant jagjeet singh will enlighten us on this...

Also with maharaj's kirpa I have been given a lot of bachans and sakhis on gurus and other avatars and the jeevans of mahapurakhs. That daas will share eventually, recently I was given hukum to share this, which I posted before but here it is: Guru nanak dev ji in his past incarnation did bahgti in mani karan in india (I'm not sure if I spelt it write but in that place there are a lot of hot springs there. Also there is a gurdwara there but it is not known for guru nanak's past tap) for 36 Jugs. This has not been discovered yet but will one day.... Guru gobind singh ji did bhagti for 4 jugs at hemkunt sahib and past incarnation was dust daman. Dust daman's satguru was a rishi. Dust Daman ate ice and snow as food. While guru nanak dev ji in his past incarnation ate rehta (stones) as food. Guru nanak dev ji japped ram ram in samadhi for 36 yugs, in this current jug he combined all the mantars together to get waheguru. ALSO I HAVE BEEN GIVEN HUKUM TO REVEAL ANOTHER FACT, WHICH IS THIS AGE IS THE LAST. SATJUG WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN..... SO GET OUT OF THE GAME OTHERWISE GOD KNOWS WHEN YOU WILL GET A CHANCE TO GET MANUKA JANAM AGIAN. THERE MAY BE A NEW ERA BUT NO AGE AFTER THIS... Also there are so many sakhi's and facts that are so AMAZING that have been forgotten over time... But hukum nahi he Also daas has bachans of of sant thakur singh ji which das will reveal over time, they are amazing which I have wrote in a book. But I'm not allowed to tell as they can cause naksaan at this time.

I got a little excited had to say something lol. I think sant gurbachan singh ji does arth on some of the tuks and you can compare the difference. But sant isher singh and sant dalel singh maharaj and more brahmgiani say that they were all sachkandis. It is hard for a papi like me to understand gurbani but we need their guidence. I think n30 is going to ask sant jagjeet questions when they are in toronto. I will ask n30 if they can ask sant jagjeet what the meaning of the tuks of gurbani are. As last time sant jagjeet said that krishan bhagwan, ram etc were sachkandi and were pooran. If they were sachkandis how can you call them a worm. That has to be wrong, lets wait and see what sant jagjeet singh says about this....

16. Can we contemplate on our own vairaat saroop as well like how krishan maharaj contemplate on his vairaat saroop and how krishan maharaj showed his vairaat saroop to arjan ji - - Sant ji said, krishan showed huge saroop of Isher(Sargun form of God) in which 7 ethers/sky are consider isher (head), 7 patals are consider his feets, vital force system is consider his nostrils, chand(moon) and sooraj(sun) are considered his eyes. His heart is considered as Vishnu and bhram and shiv are considerd his two hands. All nadis(ocean) are consider his veins and all the mountains are consider his bones and all the nature are considered his praticles(rom). 7. Did the devi/devtae (Krishan Bhagwan etc) attain Sachkhand, if so how, because in Bachitar Natak Guru Ji states they all got lost in maya and that why Guru Ji had to come? - Sant ji said, krishan maharaj is also avtar of vahiguroo, he is always in sachkhand. Wherever he steps, that place becomes sachkhand. ..

I am not going to answer your question btw I am not using my maan maat, this is what the brahmgiani's are saying. Mahapursh such as sant jagjeet singh ji, sant isher singh ji are saying this etc. Find out yourself.. Remember the gian and interpretation of gurbani by brahmgianis is true. It is our maat that can cause problems especially when using translations of the internet that were not translated by gian vadhis

I agree with mohinder pal, what he is saying is true that the gian that is obtained in SGGS is also present in sants/brahmgianis. Without them and their understanding their will be loads of rifts in the panth. Also sangat jeeo make the most of this gian to remember waheguru as who knows how long this gian will be present in sargun form... As ninrankar has made this gian gupt in the past and will surely make it gupt again in the future as has been observed in the past numerous of times...

I posted this before on another thread and thought I'll post it here. London001 move on in life you have been worrying about this issue for the last few months... You been posting here and sikhnet. If your that worried forget the marriage with her pretend she never existed.. This way all that tension and pointless thoughts you have wasted and will keep on doing if you keep thinking about this. Forget marriage concentrate on naam. It is the only thing that will help you, why waste time in pointless thoughts? There are bare marriage problems/issues on here. Heres a solution: Forget marriage, instead spend your time doing simran/bani and seva Marriage causes problems and problems = depression Marry Waheguruuuu If you want to talk to someone talk to waheguru If you want children adopt or IVF PROBLEM SOLVED

Please listen to the veechar by the sants I have mentioned in my last post. It will help you increase your understanding... Also please try to understand this tuk but better yet listen to the veechar imho. Also there is no difference between the gurus and krishan avatar, ram chandar, raja janak etc. Har harjan dohi ik he bib bechar kich nah God and gods lovers(brahmgiani, avtars etc) are 1 comparing them is futile

Singhstah you mediatate on waheguru not on the saroop of waheguru like guru nanak dev ji told us to concentrate on nam not himself.The aim of bani is to get us to concentrate from the sargun saroop to the nirgun saroop. Also I advise you to listen to the q&a with sant jagjeet singh. Also the english translations are poor not correct please listen to the katha by sant gurbachan singh khalsa on gurmat veechar on krishan avatar. He was sargun saroop of waheguru. Also there is no difference between the gurus and krishan avatar, ram chandar, raja janak etc. Har harjan dohi ik he bib bechar kich nah God and gods lovers(brahmgiani, avtars etc) are 1 comparing them is futile I forgot to mention the mantar ram means god as well, guru nanak japped this for 36 jugs even before ram chandar maharaj took sargun roop. Also to prove my point singhstah do you know anyone who is at least attained the spirtual avasta of atam gian? ask them see what the reply is.... there is NO DIFFERENCE Also ask them to tell you the meaning of tuks in gurbani then you will see how poor the translations are!!! I remember asking a high spirtual soul once about a meaning and he took over 1 hour to explain the meaning of 1 tuk!! So do not take meaning on the internet as truth but use them as guide BUT some are wrong..

Also guru nanak dev ji in his past incarnation used to meditate on raam. Also raam chandar maharaj is the sargun (physical form) saroop of waheguru (you can ask sant jagjeet singh ji more on this if you want), like krishan bhagwan was sargun saroop of waheguru as well, wherever they walked became sachkand...

There are bare marriage problems/issues on here. Heres a solution: Forget marriage, instead spend your time doing simran/bani and seva Marriage causes problems and problems = depression Marry Waheguruuuu If you want to talk to someone talk to waheguru If you want children adopt or IVF PROBLEM SOLVED

LOOL, good one. Yh the air needs to be filtered somehow needs to become BIBEK. Yh we can build a spaceship and go to the moon!!! Think about it Khalsa RAJ on the Moon!!! Toooo sik!!!

Kalsingh firstly it is all guru's grace. But by no means by taking amrit or getting charan amrit/naam from a pooran brahmgiani one becomes a gurmukh (unless you get kirpa etc) straight away. Taking amrit or naam is a starting point and a journey to become a gurmukh. I'll tell you what you need to do, list all the possible reasons that are stopping you from taking amrit. Next for each problem outline a possible solution or work around to that problem. Each day try to work towards solving each problem until you can take amrit. Also do ardaas asking guru for kirpa. REMEMBER you don't need to be "perfect" (only gurus and brahmgianis are perfect) to take amrit. If you can manage to do all your banis and follow the rehit then you are ready.

Kalsingh become amritdari then your problem will be solved...

You have to very careful...... in the last few years I really had a strong attachment to my family but I have been warned this attachment will stop me from getting mukt (liberated). The longer you stay attached to family the longer your charci joon will be. So how does 1 know that attachment has been shattered? The answer is that when you see no difference between your family member and some stranger on the street. Then you will be deattached from family. It is hard to believe but when 1 gets atam gian he or she will see that all is 1.. your family, friends, strangers were all waheguru, you were confused with the physical (maya) state of 1 but all is not what it seems.

Guru nanak dev ji in his past incarnation did bahgti in mani sahib (I'm not sure if I spelt it write but in that place there are a lot of hot springs there. Also there is a gurdwara there but it is not known for guru nanak's past tap) for 36 Jugs. This has not been discovered yet but will one day.... Guru gobind singh ji did bhagti for 4 jugs at hemkunt sahib and past incarnation was dust daman. Dust daman's satguru was a rishi. Dust Daman ate ice and snow as food. While guru nanak dev ji in his past incarnation ate rehta (stones) as food. Guru nanak dev ji japped ram ram in samadhi for 36 yugs, in this current jug he combined all the mantars together to get waheguru. ALSO I HAVE BEEN GIVEN HUKUM TO REVEAL ANOTHER FACT, WHICH IS THIS AGE IS THE LAST. SATJUG WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN..... SO GET OUT OF THE GAME OTHERWISE GOD KNOWS WHEN YOU WILL GET A CHANCE TO GET MANUKA JANAM AGIAN. THERE MAY BE A NEW ERA BUT NO AGE AFTER THIS... Also there are so many sakhi's and facts that are so AMAZING that have been forgotten over time... But hukum nahi he

If it makes her happy then let it be.........

It doesn't matter if a girl marries someone with a pagg or without, dw. why worry when everything is in hukum of waheguru. Hukum rajai chalna nanak likia nal So everything is in his hukum so if girls marry someone without a pagg it is akal puraks mauj and same goes vice versa. Also marriage is even preordained, if waheguru has written that you are going to get married to someone then you will regardless of having a pagg or not.

The gurus were not messengers of god. There is no difference between the gurus (unlimited kala) and waheguru. Hence you can therefore say they were basically waheguru. Read mool mantar it describes the gurus. I can even go a step further and say there is no difference between waheguru, the gurus and pooran brahm gianis. The answer to all your questions depends on understanding and obeying akal purakhs hukum. Also there is no point comparing the prophets/avatars of other religions as to see any distination or have any partiality is work of agyani pursh(ignorant ones) not aim or work of gyanvan bhramgyanis. So your question ji is flawed to begin with.

Guest you have made a very good point, I would also like to say that a person that listens to ninda on purpose will get 10 times the amount of paap(Sin) compared to the person telling you the ninda. SO DON'T SLANDER AND RUN AWAY FROM GOSSIP!!!

Wow, never heard this 1 before. I wonder what bad karam the baby did to deserve this?!

Here read this: Self Percept (Atam Updesh) Why are you so engrossed in worries? Why are you afraid of some one? Who may kill you? The soul is immortal; it neither dies nor takes birth. The present is here and now, the past is irrecoverable and the future will be good. Don't fret over the past and don't be worried about the future. The present is going on. Why do you cry? What did you lose? When you were born, what did you bring along, which has been lost? What did you produce which has been perished? It is here that you gained and it is here that you lose. The man comes to; and goes from world, empty handed. What you own today was not yours yesterday and will not be yours tomorrow. It does not and will not belong to anyone. You consider it your own and rejoice. This happiness of possession leads you to utter grief. Yours is this world. Start from where you feel to; stay where you desire and wind up where you want to. It has no beginning and no end. You don't fear anyone, but yourself. You are the fright and also the frightened. Change is the truth of life. What you consider as death is life in reality. In a moment a multi-millionaire is turned pauper. Give up the feeling of possession, great & the mean; differentiation of friend & foe. Then all is yours and you for everyone. Your corporeal being is a product of air, water and fire and it merges into the same leaving behind neither blood nor bones. Still yours existence remains the same. Then ponder over what you are. Wake up! and become the eternal sons of the Almighty. You are the great and unique manifestation of Nature's power. All the divine powers are possessed by you, like a tree hidden in the seed. In fact you don't fear anybody; you don't have any worry, suspicion, pain or grief. You are His dear ones. Surrender yourself completely to Him. Always, remember the "Waheguru" (God) to achieve salvation. Let your life be guided by the saying "Whatever God wills, is good". Be content with the will of God. Remember Him both in pleasure & pain. Dhan Dhan Pooran Brahmgiani 111 Sant Isher Singh Rara Sahib Wale *Now live life as you won't get a chance again and will suffer the the pain of death and birth over again and again if you kill yourself.*

Your not in love but instead you have experienced the play of kaam.

Singh I suggest you get accommodation with unite. The rooms are currently about £98+ but better still try to find a place out of the uni area as the accomodation will be cheaper and plus you can find a flat near a gurdwara. Singh I see you are quiet into sikhi; get an account so I can pm you about someone who is at birmingham and they can help quide you more spirtually to a new level... TRUST

Of course men will have problems in life but all I am saying is on general as a whole; women suffer more because of their gender. Which is what I am trying to say because of them being born as a women. I have already outlined the problems they face because of their gender, tell me or could you give me a list of what men suffer because of their gender? I could say the father of the shaheeds was even luckier than the mother as he did not have to go through the pain of birth and still father the child. Having kids is painful, (1000 scorpion bites). but your not getting the point.... Your last Q i will not answer as it is not in scope of this topic. Waheguru of course love us all, he even love the snakes, plants etc equally but they have bad karams that they became animal. So a person becomes a women due to her karam and a person becomes a man due to his karam.