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Kumi I thought better of you. That is a horrible way to say it. Kirpans dont just kill, they defend. Remember when that sword goes into the hands of a Sikh it becomes a Kirpan and can only be used for defense unlike anyother weapon. :doh: 107485[/snapback] DOES IT KILL YES sooo eat my kachera 107527[/snapback] THEN YOU WILL NEED TO GO FOR PESH COZ YOU BROKE YOUR REHAT BY NOT WEARING YOUR KACHERA!!!!!!!!!!! And no it doesnt kill. We Kill. The Shastar doesnt matter, we can use a spoon, pen, key whatever to kill someone. It not needed to kill, its used to defend. Not sure which books you been reading but none of the ones i have read tell me that!! and mine have been pretty good in teaching me stuff about sikhi!!

Guru Nanak was the physical embodiment of Waheguru

I received a txt from someone there who said its been cancelled...

Please can someone pm me or email me the link, all_info@hotmail.com and a baisc brief of what it is... Will get on the case but need to know whats going on!!!

pref a post code??

I know its not rare and it does happen but in context the likly hood is low.. Anyhow i tell you straight, i love my bana and when its on, its sad to take it off!!!! Wear it as much as i can! Sooooo comfortable and on a HOT day, your not gona find anything better as when tha material fnas ya legs in that mellow wind, ah its all good! lol

Both as bad as each other, you cant blame any other. Its jst common practice for a women to cover up so simple as. If it wernt, Mai Bhago wuda kept legs showing when fighting too. Apologies if that offends anyone but its respect too, from the times people lived in. Like if a woman was walkin round with bare legs, she is prone to being raped or something from a fellow villager where as a man walkin round with bare legs will prob put men off!!! WJKK WJKF

Nihang Singhs always wear their bana without pajama but their kashera usually comes around 2inches below the knew so most of leg is covered up. There are a few people who wear a pajama with bana but maryada typically dont so we dont!! All the old school singhs wuda been without pajama back in the day coz they stick to ya legs when you on the battlefield and coz they wuda been ready to fight at anytime, not practical to say "hol up g, needs to take ma trousers off" so they went without. Maybe in winter they mite have worn coz of the cold but thats it i guess... I dnt hav your answer to the woman question but its like sayin something are jst the way they are huna?

not sure about the beard as they cut their hair yeh as unhygenic or inconvenient i think it is? someone jst confirm for me!! been a while since i needed to know!!!! (ie dont go uni no more...) The turban also is practical as if they in the deserty parts then its used to cover their faces up

hmmm then if canada singhs supposedly run the place, (with muslim situation), this should easy peasy for you guys then!! :doh: :doh:

Where are you located??

10am uk time for the show can prob get it on the net, bbc.co.uk

Bro since you seem to know you history heres the response to a statment you made, "GURU GOBIND SINGH JI STARTED DAMDAMITAKSAL" - Actually no. He put Baba Deep Singh in CHARGE or Damdami Taksaal as a SCHOOL for teaching Gurbani. Nothing more and nothing less. A school to teach the way Bani should be read and kept. Not a jatha. Remember Baba Deep Singh Was Nihang Singh like let me think.. most of the warriors of the time after being set up by Guru Hargobind Sahib. Thats what made them next level, they spent time worrying about how they make mistakes reading Gurbani and not understanding it, we worry about what jatha is the best. I tell you which is the best. The KHLASA PANTH. The only jatha i wona be apart of! The ONLY one that will always stand taller then the rest, the only one set up by Guru Gobind Singh Ji to show ONE nation. WJKK WJKF

Hanji hence the need for the audio to pass on to those who either didnt know about it or didnt make it!!!! The katha was jst amazing!!!! also, i wona hear it again! lol, but thats not important! its making sure others can here it!!!

Fateh Ji Please if anyone managed to get the recordings from last nite can you either post em here, or email me!!! I am desperate to get hold of Boota Singhs and Harjinder Singh Katha! I managed to record Navreet Singh, Sukhvinder Singh but i didnt realise my battery had died so missed the before kirtanis!! PLEASE singh ji, who did the recordings / sikhitothemax seva, please can you let me know!?!?!?! Thanks WJKK WJKF

See if they are willing to compromise... Ie, you pay half they pay half?? Or if you pay upfront for the coach, then they pay you back IF people turn up?? To get a coach for the last lobby day i had to do this for Cov. I was told it was to short notice and it had to go through the books so i ended up payin the money but got it in a cheque back later (jst makesure they write the cheque!!! coz its scary to see yourself givin cash to someone and not knowing if u gona see it again)

See if they are willing to compromise... Ie, you pay half they pay half?? Or if you pay upfront for the coach, then they pay you back IF people turn up?? To get a coach for the last lobby day i had to do this for Cov. I was told it was to short notice and it had to go through the books so i ended up payin the money but got it in a cheque back later (jst makesure they write the cheque!!! coz its scary to see yourself givin cash to someone and not knowing if u gona see it again)

Contact the sevadars on the campaign email and ask their permission. Its merely a suggestion, im up for going to every wedding if need be so either way its not an issue for me. I know where i want to be with regards to Disrespect to my Guru and will continue to fight. Just a simple suggestion so all these people can finally realise, if you put money on my Guru, the you will lose out in the long run. So might aswel save these unfortunate people alot of time and hassel etc. WJKK WJKF 106012[/snapback] Didnt see the post above mine, wasnt there when i wrote it... Try to be proactive from now to things that happen to us which we over look for other issues. Its not always outsiders that attack Sikhi, but mainly supposed sikhs themselves.

Contact the sevadars on the campaign email and ask their permission. Its merely a suggestion, im up for going to every wedding if need be so either way its not an issue for me. I know where i want to be with regards to Disrespect to my Guru and will continue to fight. Just a simple suggestion so all these people can finally realise, if you put money on my Guru, the you will lose out in the long run. So might aswel save these unfortunate people alot of time and hassel etc. WJKK WJKF

Singh where are you from? And im not a nihang wonab. I dont have the ability to ever read as much Bani as Nihang Singh, to be able to fight like Nihang Singh, b ever the dirt that sticks to their feet. They are great Khalsa Warriors and deserve utmost respect. To try to be one is a sin in itself in my eyes. Accept an apology from me, Taksali Singh has a life, a GurSikhi Jeevan and a great one. He lives by his rehat, what more can a Gursikh do? If he disagrees with stuf then so b it but he is entitled to an opinion jst as everyone else is. WJKK WJKF

No offence mate but if you meant "Nihang" then you woulda changed the post immediatly, read it over or repostes straight after. I was gona give u a massive lecture but iv had a crap day at work so dont wona moan at you. Take yourself lucky. Normally i would. Neway, yes i go to his classes, name me jst one reason as to why i shud not or can not go? There isnt one coz i know my sikhi and am strong enough in it to go there, NOT get myself into talks about stuf im not for, and jst train. Im going their to learn a vidiya, jst as i go to learn Gatkha. If i was a nang and his chela like most probably assume, i wouldnt b going to both. Since its already been made clear, he hates AKJ, i jst happened to recieve my head thru an Amrit Sanchar provided by the Jatha and also, some of my best mates are Taksaal. Let me think, i also read my Paath that way to, why? Coz GURU JI PUT BABA DEEP SINGH IN CHARGE OF TAKSAAL - he was a nihang also. Or is that forgotten? And i dont class me as anything. Just Khalsa. Why? Coz if its all about one, EK ON KAR, then how can there be more then One? Guru Nanak was blatently high on pang yeh? Or maybe the alcohol he told us not to drink? Appreciate if you dont class me as anything other then Khalsa, well actually not even that. Im not worthy of such a status. The khalsa is pure, the perfect set of people, people who you should look up to and think i wona b like them. I wake up everyday and think that still to this day. If attending a class to learn to defend yourself makes you a nang, opps, i mean Nihang, then going to a rhensbai must make you AKJ and reading Bani correctly must make you Taskaal. Oh no, i think the caste system has come back into Sikhi again. As paji said, i am neautral. I wona get on with my Sikhi. Thats it. I love kirtan, all kinds, i love to fight so i learn various styles, which you must have read in a previous post since you read i go vidiya (and clearly state i go to others at the same time). If that makes someone nang, then Guru Ji was Too. Simple as. I do wear Nihang Singh's Bana, coz to me its practical and keep kamarkassa too as again its practical but doesnt make me a nihang my friend. All i can say is, sorry for making you read so much. Hopefully this time it might be read in full?? so next time its not misunderstood like (hint on the comdey there if you get it "like") WJKK WJKF

He will still do it. Couple of slaps here and there, as long as he gets money he is happy Taking Maharaj from him now means he is out of business for the short period...

i have also heard from reliable sources that this camp is just a dos hole, no real learning of sikhi, also the nangs just use the camp to convert people into druggies and meat eating so they can justify thier actions and feel better. just go to the khalsa camp or boss camp, or both as they dont clash 97771[/snapback] Bit of a harsh joke. I went last yr, it wasnt the best camp in the world but then i did jst show up on the wednesday!!! I thought it was good and useful, i laready knew a lot more about sikhi then was being taught and the only lecture i actually went to - as i only went on the off chance, the lecture side was prety much done, i had already heard it 5times before as i know the guy who did it!!! So again, i didnt learn much but in terms of the rest of it! The stories that were told, the kirtan darbar at the end, i thought it was great! Sikhi parchar was done there, from what i remember meat wernt really an issue, just kids playin games etc. The only thing i didnt like was maybe the sevadars, but thats just down to an attitude problem by them. Nothing to with the camp, jst they to up themselves in authority positions. I had it out with the ones i had problems with and it was all good. People are going to camps to lean something, i havent been to many but droped in to loads of them recently for like one dayers and stuf and they all been good! (im not sticking up for sikh student btw!!!) I shud be hopefully checkin out khalsa camp this yr as where our sangat is goin (ie the people i spend the whole week with doing kirtan, paath, training etc) so be nice to stay with the sangat and boost our own sikhi. Also as everyone tells me its good and so i might as well check it out!! End of the day, if you kno the bare basics to sikhi, and are strong in them!! then there shud be no worry of being mind converted etc! Just stay strong in your own belief and if you got problems? Go and see Guru Ji. (PS the talks at the camps are the best!! ie when people all jst sit in a group and have discussions...) WJKK WJKF

Im not judging and its incorrect to assume also. Obvioulsy you were present so i do apologise for offending you on this matter. Real singhs with real piyaar, paji, if that was the case, then everyone wuda been at the Shaheedi Tournament fighting for the beadbi done to Guru Arjan Dev Ji, OUR 5TH GURU. Again, as you said to me, try not speak out of line. And as to knowing if you are thiyaar bitiyaar, it dnt mater to me. Not gona do nething for me if you are or not. It has everything to do with maharaj and thats it. If you think beadbi is a bad thing then get up and fight it with the fullest. As you said, real singhs wudnt care, hopefully, we still have that mentality left in us to do it for the right reason and not just go out to smash up people...

Then makesure your thiyaar bithiyaar and know about each event and are there to do the seva. Beg maharaj for you to beable to do it if you did not already. Do ardaas that it doesnt happen again and thay people will get the message that there is FAUJ out there who are willing to stop a wedding so OUR GURU is not disrespected. Maharaj can stop all this when he wants, but he doesnt coz he wants to see who really has given their head and will stand and fight inhis army all the way. Sorry if that offends but yes its not a joking matter but a couple of gigles about the after effects isnt as bad as ignoring the issue completly. If it keeps the post alive then allow them so people are aware of whats going on!! www.sikhdreamweddings.co.uk will have the reports on the site later this week. I have been told the site is ready, jst having few connection problems uploading the new stuff. WJKK WJKF