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Well I'm in specifically in TO (or even in the same country ;-) but the thread at http://forums.waheguroo.com/index.ppa?showtopic=11228 which is a list of events on the 21st anniversary of the 1984 attacks against Sikhs contains the following entry: "Shaheedi Nagar Keertan June 5th, 2005 Just letting all the sangat in the Greater Toronto area of the upcoming Shaheedi Nagar Keertan happening this weekend June 5th in Hamilton. The Nagar will be to pay tribute to ALL shaheeds of the Khalsa Panth. Starting with Guru Arjun Dev Ji to all shaheeds to present day. The Program is as following Keertan Darbar - 10:00am - 1:00pm at Gurdwara ShaheedGarh Hamilton Nagar Keertan starts 1:00pm starting at Gurughar to City Hall Hamilton Panthic Veechars - 3:00pm - 5:00pm Nagar Keertan end 5:00pm Come out and pay you respect to all shaheeds. For more information you can contact Gurdwara ShaheedGarh at 905-525-5725" Hope that helps. Please take and post pictures if at all possible. 101435[/snapback] Thanks for the information! But do you know if there is anything happening within the Toronto area- perhaps in Brampton, Mississauga, etc.?

I did not grow up in a Gursikh household, but I love learning about our religion. In order for me to learn more about our faith and language, my parents sent me to Punjabi school when I was a youngster :doh: . Even though my parents are not exactly the most religious, I have a yearning to learn more about our wonderful religion, and have gained some knowledge through reading books and asking my family for more information about Sikhism. I have also learned how to do paat with God's Grace . But I'm still immature and have LOT'S to learn!

Hey all...this post is specifically targeted towards Sikhs in Toronto (sorry for all of you that dont live in T.dot! :doh: )! Anyway, I was wondering if any Torontonians know about any rallys/memorials occuring within the Toronto area to remember the lives lost in 1984. Thanks.

I'm from Ca-nai-da! :doh:

Drinking alcohol is very much glorified in the Punjabi culture- whereas, cigarettes are deemed as being "bad". I don't think there is a difference between alcohol and cigarettes, as both do realtively the same amount of damage to the body physiologically, emotionally, and psychologically., as well as put other people's lives at risk. I read somewehre that alcohol is a drug that does the MOST damage to the body than other drugs, yet it is legalized :doh: @ . Alcohol in the punjabi culture is unfortunately being promoted- the ignorant mentality is that people will only come to gatherings where alcohol is served.

That's what I'm asking as well! I would love to help organize a rally like the one done in England to remind the Sikh community that the wounds of 1984 have not yet healed, and we mustn't forget about them. Is there by any chance, anythign going on in Toronto?

Thank you to all for your replies :TH: ...by the way, bhaji, i'm a girl :doh:

I was hoping that the sangat could clear up some confusion. Being proud of oneself, or having ego is not the Sikhi way of life. Putting down others or belittling them is wrong, right? But, what if the person deserves to be put down? For example, a criminal , theif, rapist, *greedy politician* etc. Could you bad mouth them and their actions? Is a Sikh also not supposed to let negative comments about them get to them? In other words, if someone talks negatively about you, should you let it get to you and avenge the comments, or should you remain neutral and not let the remarks get to you? If you remain neutral, isn't that sort of letting the person stomp all over you? Is there such a thing as standing up for your rights? Thanks.

I am very appalled, angry and shocked to see just how much our religion is being distorted in India...... :<Edited>:

I just came back from Albion Mall and there wasn't a poster of Sunny Deol's movie- maybe they banned it for now?

What do you mean by this comment?

I understand your frustration, but that does not justify saying that all Hindus are "like this" or "that". As Sikhs, we wouldn't like it if someone labels all of us according to stereotypes present in Bollywood films. By the way, as I stated in my post before, there were some Hindus during the 1984 crisis that helped Sikhs escape the brutal situation. Are you going to put them in the "all Hindu" category as well? I acknowledge your concern that the Inidan government and those responsible for the killings have not apologized and that angers me as well. But be careful not to label the whote entire community based on the actions of a few.

:TH: Let's do it! If Darhsan Sahota and other media outlets do not want to do something about this, then lets all get together on Fri. May 13th (when the movie is going to be released) at Albion mall infront of the cinemas and begin to protest! Come on, people! Reply baccck!

Why do you think non-Sikhs won't get equal rights? Are Sikhs knows as oppressors and for practicing inequality? Kingdoms of Baba Banda Singh and Ranjeet Singh are perfect example to look at. Even if only Sikhs live in Khalistan the country will still survive. Look at every muslim country and see if other religions can flourish and if non-muslims have equal rights. Most of the countries Muslims took over became third world in no time but still surviving. Sikhs can do lot better. Heck, even in USA many communities don't have equal rights and religion plays a significant role in politics. Answers are out there just try to find 'em. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh 96724[/snapback] Good point Bijla, you kniow, i don't know why alot of ppl make u slook like something we are not. Makes me wonder why ppl would even think of such things... 97035[/snapback] Everyone on the forum is here to learn more about the Sikh religion. No one is proclaiming one thing superiour over another, or making someone look like something they're not. How else are we all supposed to learn more about our faith if we do not inquire about it?