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Bhai Satwinder Singh, Bhai Harvinder Singh and Bhai Manjit Singh (Goldy) will be performing kirtan at GURDWARA KARAMSAR ILFORD (400 HIGH ROAD, ILFORD) FROM 7 TO 13 APRIL 2008 TIMES: 7.00 PM TO 8.30 PM COME ONE COME ALL

Karamsar Punjabi School is holding a Raag Kirtan Durbar at Gurudwara Karamsar , Ilford, to celebrate the parkash of Guru Amardas Ji on the 27th of May 2006 from 6.00 pm to 12.00 midnite. Participants include Harkirat Singh of chakardar.com All are welcome. Further info: www.karamsar.co.uk , For directions : http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?cli...ult=&db=pc&cidr _client=none〈=&keepicon=true&pc=IG11TW&advance d=&client=public&addr2=&quicksearch=IG1%2B1TW&addr 3=&addr1=

Karamsar Punjabi School is holding a Raag Kirtan Durbar at Gurudwara Karamsar , Ilford, to celebrate the parkash of Guru Amardas Ji on the 27th of May 2006 from 6.00 pm to 12.00 midnite. Participants include Harkirat Singh of chakardar.com All are welcome. Further info: www.karamsar.co.uk , For directions : http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?cli...ult=&db=pc&cidr _client=none〈=&keepicon=true&pc=IG11TW&advance d=&client=public&addr2=&quicksearch=IG1%2B1TW&addr 3=&addr1=

I can understand the explaination of the trinity as being representation of the one God. But is this just a modern spin on perhaps an illogical starting point. What is the distinction between the Holy spirt and the Father? And does not the insistance by Jesus that he is God a touch arrogant !

Kanwadeep Singh Atwal. What language do you use to post your views on this forum? I find it very difficult to decipher. It is not Punjabi and certainly not English. Please take heed and improve your ability to communicate properly, otherwise no one will take you seriously. Apologies for any offence.

This is perhaps the most difficult of the 5 afflictions to win over - the others being krodh, moh,, hankar and maya. Great men have fallen prey to it. The very fact that you are fighting it way you describe is examplry and a lesson for us all. As Guru Nanak ji says in jupji: MUN JEETAI JUG JEET.

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It is easy to make such critisisms and I would generally agree with them. Indeed I would say that these are symptoms of something deeper that we as Sikhs should address. What has already been mentioned is but a manifestation of poor organisational abilities and lack vision and understanding of the way business is carried out in this modern day and age. The main reason for this is the lack of professionalism and educated people in key positions in the Gurdwaras. The opening of the Gurudwara was but one example of how many things could have been done better. We could have: - Reinforced the sangat of the main functions of Gurudwara. - In keeping with the prescribed method of reciting bani organised a real classical raag darbar as well as simran. - We could have produced quality literature - both paper and multimedia to commemorative the opening. - Improved transperancy and accountability by informing the sangat on how, what and where its monies are being spent. - Encouraged the sangat to participate in all aspects of the workings of the Gurughar and not just confine themselves to washing utensiles and preparing and serving langar. The list is endless... The Gurudwara in its true sense is where a sikh comes to learn and practice gurmat from the true Guru and the Sikh way of living in the modern environment. Let us not let this Gurughar go the way of many others which have become but places of social gatherings, marriages and endless ritualistic akand paths. It all very well for us to recognise these shortcomings and discuss them amongst ourselves. But we can only call ourselves trus Sikhs if did something about it. So stop moaning, get off your backsides, go to the Gurudwara and awail yourself to the Guru.