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Chase them out of the house. Or get one of those glass doors. They will be sitting on an invisible force field and all u have to do is open the door and Bam!! Ur tormentor has gone.

No I do not work for RETARDED ACTION WATCH. According to Indians on FB I am an ISI dog. :excited:

Concerning the order of Phul. It seems to have strains of Jewish influence. The candles and the star of David.

What we need is untiy and to remain united than they will really lose.

Guys look at the pics of the actress playing Indra in upcoming Bollywood movie on this page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Reality-of-india/107353212748348?ref=ts&fref=ts

Dastar like the Sikh women of old, a round turban.

I got that from Sikh 24, even orthodox jews have facial hair. Hahahahahahaha, do u think I work for RAW or something?

Literally, it can be a hit to warn India to mind it's own <insert evil word of your choice> business. Seeing as it's always blaming ISI. The beards could be a disguise to mislead the <another evil word of your choice> Indian intelligence agency RAW (Retarded Action Watch). Most likely though the son of a <another evil word> is probably making this up to tarnish the Sikh image world wide as Hindus cannot tolerate a minority being in the spotlight for too long. Whats more why did the doctors let him go if his throat was slashed in the inconsistencies in his narrative? Brar is a <very evil word> and is probably licking Indian government's shoes even at the moment. For all u know the guys who attacked him could have been jews.

He lead an action against Pakistan in 1971. Consider that also.

Wow thank u very much. So what has happened to Nirmalas today?

Wow.

Need a way to strike fear in their hearts. Get the message across what ur doing is going to kill u.

I run a few pages on facebook and wanted to do an article of sorts on Nirmales etc. Basically all the sampardas/upsampardas. I thought Mahants were anti-Sikh. Is Mahant Ganesha Ji an exception? Above all is there a certain contribution these sampardas/upsampardas make to Sikhi? Like Bhindra samparda (is there one?) teaches and another might teach Shastar Vidya etc.

Interesting, where do the udasis and nihungs fit in all this?

Veer Ji I do not believe anything in the life of Muhammad Ji has been changed. Anything at all. If anything is being changed than it is probably being changed by individuals like Abu Adeeba (Islam-Sikhism) or Al-Mujahoureen who are trying to justify Islamic acts worldwide. Other than that we as Sikhs will always call Guru Sahibaans more perfect than the other saints prophets etc. Another consideration is that we are almost discriminated against because of how we treat Guru Granth Sahib Ji. That is after a shower, clean limbs etc. we sit and read it. We place it high above sangat. We wrap it in clean clothes and put it in a bed. This to demonstrate our respect and reverence. If u want to take possession of Guru Sahib u have to ask etc. not just walk into a shop and buy the word of God for two dollars.

Halted temporarliy? Anti-muslim? What about the Medal of Honour game set in Afghanistan? I am sure a lot more are out there which portray history with an unbiased tint. What will happen tomorrow if the Germans start saying they don't want any anti-Nazi games as it stereotypes Germans? All the while claiming they have nothing to do with neo-facism etc. Islam already has a destructive history which carries on even into the present day, guess people are scared. I am sure many non-Sikhs will enjoy playing the game once it's out. I like the concept.

When I took amrit I was told not to communicate with Ram Rais in any way willingly. The rest I am not sure about. By the way what is Bedi? Is it a clan (like u say), caste ect? Does it matter?

Wow!!!! And I actually told my mum that.

And can u name all these sampardas for me and what they do for Sikhi? To explain to a layman can we say they are like arms of Sikhi?

This is a set-up. And a big one at that.

Veer Ji where can I get this Granth u mention?

Curioustoknow it is ur mindset that is making u fail, nothing else. Take it this way at first when man knew about the real nature of God there was no need for religion as it is today. It was something that developed and was at a standstill as there was no need for it. As time passed men started forgetting about God. Different prophets and saints came to explain who God was but failed themselves. The god of the Hindus was a far away entity who could be represented in various forms. There was no need for this far away entity as long as u had his closer-to-home aspects by u. These aspects were then given a form to represent them which over time became even more progressive as these aspects came to represent different Gods and Godesses. These demi-gods were worshipped in idols and other forms while the far away entity was forgotten or put in the background. Then came Judaism, a vengeful but also a loving God who promised to send a messiah named Immanuel. Yet as time progressed there were so many messiahs that no one particularly cared when Christ came along. Again his intentions were noble but the stress that he laid on living in what we call a physical reality forever fell short of the real nature of God. Overtime his message was corrupted. Than came Muhammad, yet he bound the world to namaz, eid etc. His followers were to perform rituals to remember God and please him. They were to bow only to the west, they were to enact certain laws and acts. When we see the life of Muhammad, we admit that he had noble intentions yet actions like marrying Aisha (which has created controversies as to her age in the Arabic world, as most Arabs say she was 9 and non-arabs she was older), the massacre of the Banu Qurazya and other actions make him look more like a conqueror than prophet. Men then witnessed many traditionalist and other forms of revival movements in each and every religion which lead to sects being formed or different groups. Some took a break from the others and made their own religions etc. In all this the truth about God was lost. Then man witnessed the bhakti movement in India, which was based around one god and meditation. There were many great revivalists and religious figures in this movement and one of them was Bhagat Ramanand, and his disciples. One of these disciples Kabir took an extensive study of religious texts to see how to meet or attain perfection and than God. The eastern faiths promised much but failed to deliver, the semitic faiths made man out to be a total zero living under the glare of a watchful parent. Kabir than realised that God was inside him and started preaching this. In time he finally met his creator. Similarly in this way 15 saints met their maker and made themselves perfect. Yet the question remained, no established dictum, theory (call it whatever you will) led them to God. No path, nothing. It was more of a trial and error thing. It was than that God decided to send Guru Nanak Dev Ji who was perfect from the start. The Guru was a copy of God who came amongst us humans (this will make it more easy for u to understand) his task was to give instruction to the world. Whereas all the first saints etc. founded religions based on their own observations, Guru Nanak Dev Ji a form of God founded Sikhi on what God wanted mortals to know. He started writing Bani, and collected the Bani of the aforementioned 15 saints. He placed emphasis more on the Guru' shabad word than the physical Guru himself. It is by joining ourselves with Guru's word we attain perfection and God himself. We can say that the Guru of the 15 saints and Guru Nanak Dev Ji's Guru was the one and the same, Waheguru or wonderful God. The other 15 saints dispelled darkness of ignorance for themselves but Guru Nanak Dev Ji did it for the whole world. The word today is what we call Guru Granth Sahib, even the Guru's themselves bowed to it. Through Gurbani (what we call the word) you will find out philosophy of Sikhi and what it really is. It is easy to come on forums and barge out but only reading and trying to understand various religious texts will help. Regarding your assertion Guru Nanak Dev Ji did not reject Islam, u can also find proof of what I say in Gurbani.

I am beginning to think this whole thing is pointless. I am also beginning to have suspicions about Curioustoknow also. And it isn't because she is a muslim before anyone starts on my case. The mindset portrayed by Curiuostoknow on other posts suggests she is confused (call me Captain Obvious) and is herslef setting herself up for failure. Her insistence she will go to hell shows how her four years of research on Sikhi falls on it's face. Someone knowledgeable should dedicate themselves to answering her questions full time. The rest of us will only confuse her with concepts that cannot transcend the language barrier.

RE : General Brar Recently, Sikhs have been viewed in a positive light across the globe following the oak creek shooting, balpreet kaur, and comments made by JK Rowling. With the anniversary of November 1984 National Genocide of Sikhs just around the corner, the Indian Government would not like the world to see Sikhi for what it is, a beautiful, positive and vibrant inclusive faith, which hold service to humanity, meditation, tolerance and equality dear. The government would prefer for the world to see Sikhs as a nuisance, terrorists that need to be executed. The Government of India does not want the world to recognise that Sikhs have suffered several genocides in India. The indian media propaganda machine has now once again started a vicious campaign against the Sikh community labeling us as Terrorists, Extremists, Violent, Millitants etc. Please be careful with the messages we are writing. For all we know, the brar incident could be staged, and even if it isn't, the Indian government would like to show evidence to British government stating "You have Extremeist Sikhs representing these views in your country". Lets now drop the hype... public opinion of the Sikhs is very important, especially with the anniversary of the November Genocide in 4 weeks time. Please Copy

Hahahahahahahaha.