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Nihal is a fool. End of story.

New Zealand mate.

And how did Islam come in between Jesus and Guru Nanak Dev Ji?

And please do not consider Sikhi as an offshoot of Islam and Hindusim. More greater debators than u have fallen on this forum while believing in that myth. You cannot deny that the practical side of Islam was first carried out by Prophet Muhammad himself and the his followers copied him. I mean doing Hajj etc.

You also seem to be indirectly criticizing Islam. I suggest u find out more about the faith u have chosen to believe in and than comment on other faiths. Islam isn't the first nor the last religion to place emphasis on oneness of God. Before Islam there was Christianity and before Christianity there was the vedic form of Hinduism. Of course u can easily dismiss what I have posted above as "falsefied facts" but that seems to be the excuse everyone carries today if their demands and needs are not met.

Here are two excerpts from a page on Facebook which u may like to read which answer ur assertion. WAS BABA NANAK A MUSLIM? Many misguided muslim brothers believe Baba Nanak was a muslim. Here we will answer their misguided assertions. But first who is a muslim? According to their own definition a muslim is: 1.) No one worthy of worship but Allah. 2.) Prophet Mohammed the last messenger of God. 3.) Lives by the teachings of Islam. Now the Sikh concept however is different: 1.) One Creator, God but we can merge with this creator and become one with him. Guru is already one with God. 2.) Guru Nanak is Guru and not prophet Mohammad. We can bow to Guru Sahib, praise him and serve him. Why? As he is fully merged with one. Even though he is human he has Waheguru inside him using him as a platform. Guru Arjan Dev Ji tells us: Gur Parmeshwar eko jaan, Jo tis Bhavae so Parvaan. (M5). Know that Guru is one with God. If we please Guru we will be honoured in his court. Now Guru Nanak Dev Ji also calls himself a messenger of God, if he was muslim this would be sacrilege as muslims only believe in Prophet Mohammad and those before him as messengers. Many people say later Guru's changed Guru Ji's Bani. These people can still access the pothis at various Gurudwaras and see Guru Ji's notebooks and what he wrote in them. It would be very hard to change what was already written as each Guru used it as the basis for his Bani. We as Sikhs however believe all Gurus were one jot, Guru Nanak Dev Ji in different forms. Lets look at Guru Ji's life history first: 1.) Guru Ji was born into a Hindu family. His father's name was Mehta Kalu, mother's Tripta Devi and sister's Nanaki. 2.) Due to his family being Hindu Guru Ji first studied in a Hindu school. At this point there is no proof of him coming into contact with Islamic theology. 3.) Later Guru Ji went to a muslim school to learn. However there is no indication, even in history there, that Guru Ji said shahdat or Islamic declaration of faith. 4.) Guru Ji's emphasis on oneness with God was unique however oneness of God isn't a concept unique to Islam only. Christianity and Judaism believe in oneness of God and at the time Bhagti movement was prevalent in India when Guru Ji was growing up. Which also preached the oneness of God. 5.) Guru Sahib's marriage. By this time Guru ji would have finished his studies from both pandit and maulvi. Who did he get married to? Seeing how India was a diverse nation at the time, power however was with the muslim minority. A non-muslim marrying a muslim was out of the question however. Mehta Kalu arranged Guru Ji's marriage with Mata Sulakhni, daughter of Mool Chand and Chando Rani; both Hindus from Batala. Now how did Guru Ji get married? There is no proof of him going around agni as Hindus do or doing Nikkah. Instead Guru Ji wrote Ik-Onkaar on a piece of paper and went around that with his wife. This so infuriated the high-caste Brahims that they tried killing him by throwing a crumbling wall on him but Guru Ji stopped the wall. This wall is still preserved in Pakistan. Now another indication is that Sulakhni is not an Islamic name. And no Maulvi or Qazi were present at the wedding. 6.) Now lets look at the names of Guru Sahib's children. Baba Sri Chand and Lakhmi Dass. Knowing how Guru Ji uses names of Hindu Gods and Muslim names for Gods for Waheguru we can easily say these names had no Hindu meaning. However they do not sound Muslim at all or carry any Islamic meaning. 7.) It is an accepted fact that Guru Nanak Dev Ji after emerging from Bein Nadi said "There is no hindu nor Muslim." Now if Guru Nanak was a muslim imagine what would have been done to him. He was denying the faith he was born in! 8.) Guru Nanak Dev Ji writes in Bani that he was a Dhadhi, a ministrel. A musician without a job. Now music is not often associated with Islam. There are fatwas against it and with it. One can reach the conclusion total music is a waste of time in Islam. Guru Ji however said he was a permanent musician. In fact he and Bhai Mradanna had a rawab and Guru Ji advocated Kirtan. 9.) Guru Ji did not discuss or teach from the koran, which again would be a sacrilege for a muslim he discussed and taught mainly from his own writings and sang from them. Again another taboo in Islam. 10.) Guru Ji went to a mosque. Yes and he went to temples. In both places he refused to observe costumes and join in with the worshippers. Why? Because as Guru Ji said both Hindus and muslims follow the wrong concept of God. Muslims took Guru Ji to a mosque to prove there were muslims. But there he did not join in with them in namaz. When after namaz he was asked by Qazi and Nawab why he did not join in he told them that no one was praying correctly, as their minds were elsewhere. They did not know how to pray. If he was a true muslim, irregardless of what others thought he would have still did namaz. According to Islam only Allah is allowed to know one's mind or whats inside one. Al-Ghyab or the invisible world. Guru Ji however was the messenger of God and not 100% God himself, yet he still knew what was in everyone's minds. Another differentiation from Islam on this point, as Guru and God are both Antarjami. 11.) Guru Ji had a musim friend Mardanna with him on his travels. But Mardanna, no indication has been given, ever did namaz or followed Islam despite being born in a muslim family. He also helped Guru Ji sing his bani, a message outside the Koran. The Koran forbids spreading messages from other sources as both Guru Ji and Mardanna were doing. Also Bhai Mardanna's bani is in Guru Granth Sahib: ਸਲੋਕ੝ ਮਰਦਾਨਾ ੧ ॥ सलोकढ़ मरदाना १ ॥ Salok marḝĝnĝ 1. Shalok, Mardaanaa: ਕਲਿ ਕਲਵਾਲੀ ਕਾਮ੝ ਮਦ੝ ਮਨੂਆ ਪੀਵਣਹਾਰ੝ ॥ कलि कलवाली कामढ़ मदढ़ मनूआ पीवणहारढ़ ॥ Kal kalvĝlī kĝm maḝ manūĝ pīvaṇhĝr. The Dark Age of Kali Yuga is the vessel, filled with the wine of sexual desire; the mind is the drunkard. ਕ੝ਰੋਧ ਕਟੋਰੀ ਮੋਹਿ ਭਰੀ ਪੀਲਾਵਾ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ੝ ॥ कढ़रोध कटोरी मोहि भरी पीलावा अहंकारढ़ ॥ Kroḝẖ katorī mohi bẖarī pīlĝvĝ ahaʼnkĝr. Anger is the cup, filled with emotional attachment, and egotism is the server. ਮਜਲਸ ਕੂੜੇ ਲਬ ਕੀ ਪੀ ਪੀ ਹੋਇ ਖ੝ਆਰ੝ ॥ मजलस कूड़े लब की पी पी होइ खढ़आरढ़ ॥ Majlas kūṛė lab kī pī pī hoė kẖuĝr. Drinking too much in the company of falsehood and greed, one is ruined. ਕਰਣੀ ਲਾਹਣਿ ਸਤ੝ ਗ੝ੜ੝ ਸਚ੝ ਸਰਾ ਕਰਿ ਸਾਰ੝ ॥ करणी लाहणि सतढ़ गढ़ड़ढ़ सचढ़ सरा करि सारढ़ ॥ Karṇī lĝhaṇ saṯ guṛ sacẖ sarĝ kar sĝr. So let good deeds be your distillery, and Truth your molasses; in this way, make the most excellent wine of Truth. ਗ੝ਣ ਮੰਡੇ ਕਰਿ ਸੀਲ੝ ਘਿਉ ਸਰਮ੝ ਮਾਸ੝ ਆਹਾਰ੝ ॥ गढ़ण मंडे करि सीलढ़ घिउ सरमढ़ मासढ़ आहारढ़ ॥ Guṇ mandė kar sīl gẖio saram mĝs ĝhĝr. Make virtue your bread, good conduct the ghee, and modesty the meat to eat. ਗ੝ਰਮ੝ਖਿ ਪਾਈਝ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਖਾਧੈ ਜਾਹਿ ਬਿਕਾਰ ॥੧॥ गढ़रमढ़खि पाईझ नानका खाधै जाहि बिकार ॥१॥ Gurmukẖ pĝīai nĝnkĝ kẖĝḝẖai jĝhi bikĝr. ||1|| As Gurmukh, these are obtained, O Nanak; partaking of them, one's sins depart. ||1|| ਮਰਦਾਨਾ ੧ ॥ मरदाना १ ॥ Marḝĝnĝ 1. Mardaanaa: ਕਾਇਆ ਲਾਹਣਿ ਆਪ੝ ਮਦ੝ ਮਜਲਸ ਤ੝ਰਿਸਨਾ ਧਾਤ੝ ॥ काइआ लाहणि आपढ़ मदढ़ मजलस तढ़रिसना धातढ़ ॥ Kĝiĝ lĝhaṇ ĝp maḝ majlas ṯarisnĝ ḝẖĝṯ. The human body is the vat, self-conceit is the wine, and desire is the company of drinking buddies. ਮਨਸਾ ਕਟੋਰੀ ਕੂੜਿ ਭਰੀ ਪੀਲਾਝ ਜਮਕਾਲ੝ ॥ मनसा कटोरी कूड़ि भरी पीलाझ जमकालढ़ ॥ Mansĝ katorī kūṛ bẖarī pīlĝė jamkĝl. The cup of the mind's longing is overflowing with falsehood, and the Messenger of Death is the cup-bearer. ਇਤ੝ ਮਦਿ ਪੀਤੈ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਬਹ੝ਤੇ ਖਟੀਅਹਿ ਬਿਕਾਰ ॥ इतढ़ मदि पीतै नानका बहढ़ते खटीअहि बिकार ॥ Iṯ maḝ pīṯai nĝnkĝ bahuṯė kẖatīah bikĝr. Drinking in this wine, O Nanak, one takes on countless sins and corruptions. ਗਿਆਨ੝ ਗ੝ੜ੝ ਸਾਲਾਹ ਮੰਡੇ ਭਉ ਮਾਸ੝ ਆਹਾਰ੝ ॥ गिआनढ़ गढ़ड़ढ़ सालाह मंडे भउ मासढ़ आहारढ़ ॥ Giĝn guṛ sĝlĝh mandė bẖao mĝs ĝhĝr. So make spiritual wisdom your molasses, the Praise of God your bread, and the Fear of God the meat you eat. ਨਾਨਕ ਇਹ੝ ਭੋਜਨ੝ ਸਚ੝ ਹੈ ਸਚ੝ ਨਾਮ੝ ਆਧਾਰ੝ ॥੨॥ नानक इहढ़ भोजनढ़ सचढ़ है सचढ़ नामढ़ आधारढ़ ॥२॥ Nĝnak ih bẖojan sacẖ hai sacẖ nĝm ĝḝẖĝr. ||2|| O Nanak, this is the true food; let the True Name be your only Support. ||2|| ਕਾਂਯਾਂ ਲਾਹਣਿ ਆਪ੝ ਮਦ੝ ਅੰਮ੝ਰਿਤ ਤਿਸ ਕੀ ਧਾਰ ॥ कांयां लाहणि आपढ़ मदढ़ अमढ़रित तिस की धार ॥ Kĝʼnyĝʼn lĝhaṇ ĝp maḝ amriṯ ṯis kī ḝẖĝr. If the human body is the vat, and self-realization is the wine, then a stream of Ambrosial Nectar is produced. ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਸਿਉ ਮੇਲਾਪ੝ ਹੋਇ ਲਿਵ ਕਟੋਰੀ ਅੰਮ੝ਰਿਤ ਭਰੀ ਪੀ ਪੀ ਕਟਹਿ ਬਿਕਾਰ ॥੩॥ सतसंगति सिउ मेलापढ़ होइ लिव कटोरी अमढ़रित भरी पी पी कटहि बिकार ॥३॥ Saṯsangaṯ sio mėlĝp hoė liv katorī amriṯ bẖarī pī pī kateh bikĝr. सतसंगति सिउ मेलापु होइ लिव कटोरी अम्रित भरी पी पी कटहि बिकार ॥३॥ Meeting with the Society of the Saints, the cup of the Lord's Love is filled with this Ambrosial Nectar; drinking it in, one's corruptions and sins are wiped away. ||3|| Again Bhai Ji's Bani takes a different part from Islamic teachings. We will have more including the journey to Mecca. However muslim brothers are still free to believe in Guru Nanak as Jagat Guru and apply his teachings about the nature of God in their lives. WAS BABA NANAK A MUSLIM? PART 2. 1.)Did Guru Ji actually go to Mecca? Yes he did, and there are many sufi saints who confirm this; especially those who follow Sian Mian Mir. But Sikhs have their own proof, recorded by Bhai Gurdass Ji. Bhai Gurdass was the nephew of the third Guru, Guru Amardass Ji, around this time ithiaas of Guru Nanak Dev Ji was well known and Bhai Sahib was well versed in it. He used sources from the time to compose his vaar, as follows: Displaying Vaar 1, Pauri 32 of 49 ੩੨ : ਮੱਕੇ ਦੀ ਯਾਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਫਿਰਿ ਮਕੇ ਗਇਆ ਨੀਲ ਬਸਤ੍ਰ ਧਾਰੇ ਬਨਵਾਰੀ। Baabaa Dhiri Makay Gaiaa Neel Basatr Dhaaray Banavaaree. बाबा फिरि मੴके गइआ नील बसत्र धारे बनवारी । Donning blue attire then Baba Nanak went to Mecca. 1 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੧ ਆਸਾ ਹਥਿ ਕਿਤਾਬ ਕਛਿ ਕੂਜਾ ਬਾਂਗ ਮੁਸਲਾ ਧਾਰੀ। Aasaa Hadi Kitaab Kachhi Koojaa Baang Mousalaa Dhaaree. आसा हथि किताब कछि कूजा बांग मुसੴला धारी । He held staff in his hand, pressed a book under his armpit, caught hold of a metal pot and mattress. 2 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੨ ਬੈਠਾ ਜਾਇ ਮਸੀਤ ਵਿਚਿ ਜਿਥੈ ਹਾਜੀ ਹਜਿ ਗੁਜਾਰੀ। Baitdaa Jaai Maseet Vichi Jidai Haajee Haji Gujaaree. बैठा जाइ मसीत विचि जिथै हाजी हजि गुजारी । Now he sat in a mosque where the pilgrms (hajis) had gathered. 3 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੩ ਜਾ ਬਾਬਾ ਸੁਤਾ ਰਾਤਿ ਨੋ ਵਲਿ ਮਹਰਾਬੇ ਪਾਇ ਪਸਾਰੀ। Jaa Baabaa Soutaa Raati No Vali Maharaabay Paai Pasaaree. जा बाबा सुता राति नो वलि महराबे पाइ पसारी । When Baba (Nanak) slept in the night spreading his legs towards the alcove of mosque at Kaba, 4 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੪ ਜੀਵਣਿ ਮਾਰੀ ਲਤਿ ਦੀ ਕੇਹੜਾ ਸੁਤਾ ਕੁਫਰ ਕੁਫਾਰੀ? Jeevani Maaree Lati Dee Kayharhaa Soutaa Kudhar Kudhaaree. जीवणि मारी लति दी केहड़ा सुता कुफर कुफारी । The qazi named Jivan kicked him and asked who was this infidel enacting blasphemy. 5 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੫ ਲਤਾ ਵਲਿ ਖੁਦਾਇਦੇ ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਪਇਆ ਹੋਇ ਬਜਿਗਾਰੀ। Lataa Vali Khudaai Day Kiu Kari Paiaa Hoi Bajigaaree. लता वलि खुदाइ दे किउ करि पइआ होइ बजिगारी । Why this sinner is sleeping his legs spread towards God, Khuda. 6 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੬ ਹੋਇ ਹੈਰਾਨੁ ਕਰੇਨਿ ਜੁਹਾਰੀ ॥੩੨॥ Hoi Hairaanu Karayni Juhaaree ॥32॥ होइ हैरानु करेनि जुहारी ॥३२॥ All got surprised and they all bowed. 8 ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧ ਪਉੜੀ ੩੨ ਪੰ. ੮ (We will put up the entire Vaar soon but let us now stick to the discussion at hand). It is often said when Guru Ji went to Mecca he carried a blue robe with Koranic verses on it. When Guru Ji went on his travels, he would stay away from home and not come back for long periods. In theses periods clothing he carried would be gifts given to him, henceforth the robe. Now if Guru Ji was muslim he would have passed the robe onto the next Guru but no, he gave it away. 2.) But wouldn't the Koranic verses indicate Guru Ji was muslim irregardless of what he did with the robe? Surely there must be more to being a muslim then having a Koran or a cloth with Koranic verses? Today libraries and many theologians have Korans but does that make them muslim? Already we have discussed yesterday how Baba Nanak did not use Koran as basis of his teachings, even though he respected the Koran he did not believe in it's teachings. There is a world of difference between respecting and believing. 3.) What about Guru Ji's dress? Wasn't he wearing a turban? As demonstrated in the above vaar Guru Ji wore blue, the turban however is article of cloth spread throughout the east. And not all muslims wear it, many Hindus also wore a turban back then. Guru Nanak Dev however had a distinct style one in which his jura would show. At this time Mecca was a desert city, so it is more than likely a large amount of the population would have worn Keffiyahs. 4.) If Guru Nanak Dev Ji was a non-muslim then how did he gain entry into Mecca? Non-muslims are not allowed in. From circa700 A.D. to 1803 A.D. Mecca was under Caliphs linked to the Turkish Ottoman empire. They allowed non-muslims free access to Mecca because it was a desert city and a good trading location and also because they, the Caliphs, believed that non-muslims would see Mecca and become Muslims. So Guru Nanak Dev Ji easily got into Mecca. It was only after Mecca was in the hands of the Wahabbis, Saudi Arabai. in the 1900's that strict non-muslim laws were forced. 5.) Did Guru Ji do Hajj? An important and basic factor of Hajj is to go to Mina, and then to Mount Arafat the next day. There is no indication that Guru Ji ever did this. If Guru Ji was muslim then he would definitely have gone to Mina, as Hajj is the 5th pillar of Islam. Another important factor regarding Mecca is that no Guru after Guru Ji went to Mecca, nor did Guru Ji ever advocate to the Sikhs or any other Gurus to go to Mecca. This is what he said: 6.) What are the Guru's beliefs on Pilgrimages etc? I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines. I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2|| I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers. I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3|| (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Ang 1136) 7.) Guru Nanak Dev Ji only went to Mecca didn't he? No he also went to Hindu and Buddhist places of worship as well, and now there is proof of evangelical places and places of other primitive belief's centre of worship. Now if he was a muslim this would have been forbidden to him. Heres another interesting point that Guru Ji also slept with his feet pointing towards Kabba. If he was a true muslim why would he do this? 8.) What was the book that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was carrying with him? When the qazis and mullahs had fallen at Guru Ji's feet they asked him to tell them something from his book. Now if this book was the Koran why would they ask in the first place? As they too would have had Korans. And why would they call it just a "book." Why not Koran? 9.) What was the Guru's reply to who was better Hindu or muslim? Guru Ji replied without good deeds, actions both are invaild in the house of God religion-wise. Now if he was muslim he would have said a muslim is better, not a Hindu. 10.) Proof of Guru Ji's rejecting of Koranic teachings? This was in Bagdhad, Iraq. Pir Dastagir told Guru Ji that the Koran said that there were seven heavens and hells. Guru Ji however writes in Japji Sahib: "Patala Patal Lakh. Agasa Agas." There are 100,000s of heavens, hells and dimensions. Again another different ideology from Islam.

He only went to the masjid to demonstrate just that, pray with ur heart. Other wise he rejected many Islamic concepts. How can he be an Islamic prophet when Islam believes Prophet Muhammad to be the last prophet sent by God? And God is one but it's our approach to him that is different. Guru sahib rejected the Islamic as well as the other approaches prevalent in other religions of his time.

I have got a better solution, answer his questions one by one. We can easily expose him. His crap is nothing more than opening a book and randomly taking a few lines. Plus his name is Abu Adeeba, a Pakistani gentleman living in the UK.

Yet I do wonder why we are even bothering answering ur queries when the very title u have given this thread shows u set urself up for failure.

Water if often seen as being pure due to it's crystalline appearance. It is also a physical metaphor for purity etc. Sikhs are to wake up at the ambrosial hour or amritvela to read Gurbani and tune their mind into the divine frequency. There is lesson behind everything Guru Sahib did. It is easy to start viewing parallels, but the going in the water was a lesson. Purity in externally and internally leads to God. At the ambrosial hour he waits for his devotees, by he I refer to God, Guru Nanak Dev Ji went to take a bath and to explain this to Sikhs and the lesson behind purity went to sachkhand.

What are sampardas and what are the 33 sampardas of Sikhi? Who are they led by? Do they differ from mainstream Sikhs in anyway?

There are many similar attributes in all religions, after seeing ur other post I am beginning to think ur implying (indirectly) that Guru Nanak Dev Ji took other religions and mixed them to create Sikhi. Am I right?

Your views on historical insight seem to carry criticism directed towards Sikhi as to why it does not believe in the Abrahamic theory of creation. According to our Gurus we are not the first to inherit this earth and nor was it created in six days. We are a result of gradual changes in the environment etc. This was all done in accordance with the almighty's will. Yet again do the Abrahamic faiths mention dinosaurs, trilobites etc? Do they mention the process extensively through which the earth was created, other than the often repeated "And God said let there be light..."?

Mehtab Singh Ji basically u took what I was about to say and made it better. Curious to know, I can easily read a few books on Islam do some research and go on an Islamic forum and state that Islam just isn't going deep enough for me. Really easily. But what is my research based on? A certain period of time which I devoted to it. To find out about a philosophy u have to extensively dedicate ur life to it, maybe all of it. Again ur argument on fighting, if u r a "wuss" thats ur problem. Fighting is not all violent. Again a Sikhs point in life is to become one with God, with no distinction remaining, what u mention about dimensions etc. pales in comparision with that.

Can you please provide the line and page references from those lines sikhiSearch Ji?

I don't understand why people blow Khalistan out of proportion. It is only a last resort. And where can I get Sau Saakhi from? The full version on the net?

Nihklank? Can anyone explain? How do we explain the concept of Khalsa Raaj to a laymen? And what about what Baba Thakur Singh Ji Bhindranwale said? Or are said to have said, that Baba Jarnail Singh will come back and than Khalsa Raaj.

{Hmm we can all dream... Lets make Sikhi jeevan, Khanday batay da Amrit our aim first. After Ekta is achieved, Khalistan will too. And then worry about about freedom of speech etc} Bang on right.

1.) Thoughts concerning religion have to be in line for a husband and wife. Otherwise a sore point can develop and easily be exploited between husband and wife. According to Sikhi, a husband and wife are one soul in two different bodies. To be one soul ur actions have to be in accordance with each other even down to the tiniest bit. In old times there were no mixed marriages in Sikhi, both spouses were Sikhs. 2.) I agree with alias on this. But we ask for "sarbat da bhalla" the good of the whole world. So irregardless whether you are Sikh or non-Sikh it does not matter for us. What matters is naam, or meditation on the lord's name which Guru Nanak gave to the world. As Sikhs we follow his tenets 100%, and the hukams he gave in his other nine forms. We are a distinct religion yet one which stresses love of humantiy, rather than "my religion is better than yours." 3.) One of the goals in each Sikh's life is to become amritdhari or initiated in the Khalsa. The Khalsa is a saint-soldier and his/her uniform consists of the 5 k's. This is what makes him/her easily recognizable. The Khalsa, or the pure, are a distinct panth or way. They are one with God and his soldiers. You can ask a question on the 5k's on this forum if you do not understand the concepts around them. There are no different schools with different viewpoints on the 5 k's. All Sikhs accept them. The Sikh Gurus laid down a path which if followed 100% will mean you are a Sikh. Even if you detract by 1% you will not be a Sikh. Guru Gobind Singh Ji himself wore the 5 k's and ordered Sikhs to do likewise. Amongst other concepts, this is an unchangeable part of Sikhi and will remain so. 4.) As Sikhs we are to earn an honest living. The ranks of capitalism do not apply if u r a Sikh because u will see ur over seers and those under u as humans and treat them as such. U also have to understand that all u have been given is by God and hard and honest work will result in you being given more benefits by God. Ultimately though the world is like a dream and so are the benefits prevalent in it. In Sikhi your ultimate goal is to merge your soul in God, these benefits pale in comparison to meditation on the lord. They are only there for you to get ever closer to God.

Is Khalsa allowed to rule? Is Raj a must for Khalsa? How do we justify Khalsa Raj, especially as Khalsa is religious.

In Puratan times people were willing to let Sikhs rule because they trusted them. The government at the time was openly oppressive (those brothers who have studied Islamic and Hindu writings will know why). Today's government has learned divide and rule, and we have grown too peaceful. We should have been ever-alert. Back than there was no media to spread the government's voice far and wide, today there is. Become Khalsa urself, Bhindranwale sant said, and Khalistan will be made itself. Khalistan is presented as a terrorist agenda, the view is reinforced when u see Sikhs practising casteism etc.

In maharajah Ranjit Singh's time the top man was a Sikh and the top generals, or a majority of them. Everyone in Khalistan should get the right to voice their opinions and it should be the duty of the Khalsa government to hear their demands and act in their best interests. The first thing though is to increase Sikhi through prachar. Prachar, prachar and more prachar. Especially in India. Gyani Gurbachan Singh Ji Bhindranwale, and Sant Baba Attar Singh Ji used to preach to Hindus. The Singh Sabha movement inspired many Hindus to become Sikhs themselves. Lets face it, in theory our religion is not discrminatory. WE OURSELVES ARE. If we better ourselves and start preaching to members of other religions who are discriminated against and want to leave their faith then we can increase Sikhi population wise. As for Khalistan, if India was to improve today and give Sikhs their rights (I am sure the reader knows what I am referring to) than there is no need for Khalistan. But as Baba Baljit Singh Ji Dadu Sahib said last year, Sikh institutes aren't listening to Sikhs themselves so forget the dream of anyone else listening to Sikhs. In Khalistan we cannot make the mistake India has made, and still is making or turn into a Taliban government. Democracy has to be implemented correctly and also in accordance with Sikhi, that will be Khalistan. Personally thinking, please feel free to barge ur criticism at me, I don't think any form of government prevalent today in the world will work in Khalistan. A new one will have to be created. Other than that as I said before, prachar and educate urselfs.

Times of India. Let me give u some advice. Always make sure that an english paper runs the same report. Indian media is notorious for making up stories, esepecially concerning minorities in India and abroad.

Probably a mixture of Pooran and Nit avtars? It is a thought.

Use Hindu mindsets to explain hard to understand concepts to them. They will realise in time how distinct Sikhi is.