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  1. Who else can say their Guru sacrificed themselves protecting another people's right to practise their faith? Dhan Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji. Also remember those three brave GurSikhs who embraced shaheedi with their Guru, Bhai Mati Das Ji, Bhai Sati Das Ji and Bhai Dayal Ji.
  2. Does this mean disabled people won't be able to sit in the darbar hall?
  3. Why is it written ੴ? Is the numeral Ik used because you can't mistranslate it? It is simply 1. Guru Nanak is telling us everything is one. Why does the oora have a long hora like shape on? Why isn't the rest of oankaar written?
  4. I meant as in picked for the scheme But do the gurdware only give langar on set days? Or is it all day, every day?
  5. Thank you veerji, sounds good. I love snow :D If I get picked I will definitely try to visit the gurdware close by. Thank you.
  6. Hi, I have an opportunity to go to America for 2 weeks and visit an American University (Harvard, Massachusetts and Yale). However, I don't know if I should go. The stories I hear of Sikhs in America do put me off. I know it probably doesn't happen a lot, but it is a bit off putting. Has anyone been to these universities, or live near them? How is the area and are there Sikhs in the area?
  7. Their resources are very good though. We could learn a thing or two. They print things in all languages so anyone can read it, we should do that. There are many people out there who want to learn about SIkhi but can't because resources are so bad. I've read it. Nothing bad about it. I think Guru Gobind Singh encouraged Sikhs to learn about other faiths and study their texts to gain knowledge (correct me if I'm wrong).
  8. honh bhoot internet teh vee aagai? Seriously, if you're ill go to the Doctor. Do path/listen to shabads. That guy is a creep, stop talking to him and block him from your friends list.
  9. Life of an outcast – Only a few will relate by Butch Singh As I sit here in my jail cell knowing I will get out when I am an old man with white hair, I reminisce of the days our unit was tight and full of life. The days we had belief and confidence in our own people. We were naive, fresh and full of energy, from the streets we got into the Sikhi scene to make a difference to the onslaught that our community was facing. But first we had to wake people up on to what was happening, what a task that was init self as our community likes to bury their heads in the sand. When you try and wake people up instead of support a lot of Sikhs will claim that you are attention seeking (until <banned word filter activated> hits their doorstep then their tone changes). I used to read Sikh history and two things that stood out were Granth and Panth. These are the 2 things that make a Sikhs mentality unique. They also gave all our past shaheeds their strength and passion. The Mistake us naive reformed Sikhs make is that we think that both Granth and Panth are still there. Obviously the Granth is still here as the Gurbani has not been changed and the power is the same. But the Panth has gone weak; there are so many divisions, views, and hidden agendas, that the Sikh community is only a community in theory on paper. When you read Sikh history and do not have much experience with modern day Sikhs you assume everyone is on the same Panthic vibe as the ancient Sikhs, but the deeper we got into it the more we found out, that not many had the pure Panthic spirit that was once there in our past. That same spirit which made our History Glorious was missing from the majority of nowadays Sikhs. If you look at our history it is not surprising we had so many warriors, it was the community spirit and hope that gave you a certain percentage of bravery to fight wars for your people. Nowadays we have so many victims and rarely ever any warriors, the media is full of incidents of Sikhs being victims, but very rarely do you see a heroic story. The truth is a lot of people have lost hope in the community due to bad experiences and tend to live as outkasts as they feel rejected and do their own thing. When most of the community is doing their own ting, there is a gap in information and help (community cohesion). When there is a gap like that it becomes a community’s weakness and produces uneducated and unaware Sikhs who become easy targets. It is hard to shout out unity when the core of the so called Panth (if that even exists these days) is corrupted with haters, egos, hidden agendas, snakes, Fakes and backstabbers. Bad experiences lead you to become isolated from and bitter towards your own community. When you reach this stage you tend to lose hope in your community and live your life as an outkast who is weary and never opens their heart like they once did. When your own community hurts you and betrays you more than your enemies do, what do you expect to produce from such results? When I look around I see more and more outkasts that are losing hope in their community. There are too many issues within our own people that have broken our community spirit and are pushing people away from Panthic thinking. Some wounds are too hard to heal especially when the same wound has been opened up many times again and again. I am not writing this as a negative article, or to push people away from the panth. I am relating the reality of how some people as such as I feel. It is sad that we have become outkasts but this is the times we live in. Your sincerely Butch Singh, HMP Brixton 01/11/2013 P.s Happy Bandi Chor Diwas, and May Sikhs free themselves from the doom and gloom that we cause to our own with our foul ways! This article is not some cry baby <banned word filter activated>, it is unfortunately how a lot of people from the streets feel! I have heard about Khalsa Aids work for the shaheeds families of 1984 that is a step in the right direction to heal the wounded spirit. We trust no worldly authority and are never blind to the flaws of worldly governments; all my real Singhs stay true.
  10. ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ਪਹਰੇ ਘਰੁ ੧ ॥ Siree Raag, First Mehl, Pehray, First House: ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਪਇਆ ਗਰਭਾਸਿ ॥ In the first watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you were cast into the womb, by the Lord's Command. ਉਰਧ ਤਪੁ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਖਸਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ॥ Upside-down, within the womb, you performed penance, O my merchant friend, and you prayed to your Lord and Master. ਖਸਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਵਖਾਣੈ ਉਰਧ ਧਿਆਨਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗਾ ॥ You uttered prayers to your Lord and Master, while upside-down, and you meditated on Him with deep love and affection. ਨਾ ਮਰਜਾਦੁ ਆਇਆ ਕਲਿ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਬਾਹੁੜਿ ਜਾਸੀ ਨਾਗਾ ॥ You came into this Dark Age of Kali Yuga naked, and you shall depart again naked. ਜੈਸੀ ਕਲਮ ਵੁੜੀ ਹੈ ਮਸਤਕਿ ਤੈਸੀ ਜੀਅੜੇ ਪਾਸਿ ॥ As God's Pen has written on your forehead, so it shall be with your soul. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਪਇਆ ਗਰਭਾਸਿ ॥੧॥ Says Nanak, in the first watch of the night, by the Hukam of the Lord's Command, you enter into the womb. ||1|| ਦੂਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਗਇਆ ਧਿਆਨੁ ॥ In the second watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you have forgotten to meditate. ਹਥੋ ਹਥਿ ਨਚਾਈਐ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਜਿਉ ਜਸੁਦਾ ਘਰਿ ਕਾਨੁ ॥ From hand to hand, you are passed around, O my merchant friend, like Krishna in the house of Yashoda. ਹਥੋ ਹਥਿ ਨਚਾਈਐ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਮਾਤ ਕਹੈ ਸੁਤੁ ਮੇਰਾ ॥ From hand to hand, you are passed around, and your mother says, "This is my son. ਚੇਤਿ ਅਚੇਤ ਮੂੜ ਮਨ ਮੇਰੇ ਅੰਤਿ ਨਹੀ ਕਛੁ ਤੇਰਾ ॥ O my thoughtless and foolish mind, think: In the end, nothing shall be yours. ਜਿਨਿ ਰਚਿ ਰਚਿਆ ਤਿਸਹਿ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਮਨ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਧਰਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ॥ You do not know the One who created the creation. Gather spiritual wisdom within your mind. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਦੂਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਵਿਸਰਿ ਗਇਆ ਧਿਆਨੁ ॥੨॥ Says Nanak, in the second watch of the night, you have forgotten to meditate. ||2|| ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਧਨ ਜੋਬਨ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ ॥ In the third watch of the night, O my merchant friend, your consciousness is focused on wealth and youth. ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਚੇਤਹੀ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਧਾ ਛੁਟਹਿ ਜਿਤੁ ॥ You have not remembered the Name of the Lord, O my merchant friend, although it would release you from bondage. ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਚੇਤੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਬਿਕਲੁ ਭਇਆ ਸੰਗਿ ਮਾਇਆ ॥ You do not remember the Name of the Lord, and you become confused by Maya. ਧਨ ਸਿਉ ਰਤਾ ਜੋਬਨਿ ਮਤਾ ਅਹਿਲਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥ Reveling in your riches and intoxicated with youth, you waste your life uselessly. ਧਰਮ ਸੇਤੀ ਵਾਪਾਰੁ ਨ ਕੀਤੋ ਕਰਮੁ ਨ ਕੀਤੋ ਮਿਤੁ ॥ You have not traded in righteousness and Dharma; you have not made good deeds your friends. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਧਨ ਜੋਬਨ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ ॥੩॥ Says Nanak, in the third watch of the night, your mind is attached to wealth and youth. ||3|| ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਲਾਵੀ ਆਇਆ ਖੇਤੁ ॥ In the fourth watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the Grim Reaper comes to the field. ਜਾ ਜਮਿ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਭੇਤੁ ॥ When the Messenger of Death seizes and dispatches you, O my merchant friend, no one knows the mystery of where you have gone. ਭੇਤੁ ਚੇਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਮਿਲਿਓ ਜਾ ਜਮਿ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ॥ So think of the Lord! No one knows this secret, of when the Messenger of Death will seize you and take you away. ਝੂਠਾ ਰੁਦਨੁ ਹੋਆ ਦਆਲੈ ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਭਇਆ ਪਰਾਇਆ ॥ All your weeping and wailing then is false. In an instant, you become a stranger. ਸਾਈ ਵਸਤੁ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ਜਿਸੁ ਸਿਉ ਲਾਇਆ ਹੇਤੁ ॥ You obtain exactly what you have longed for. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਲਾਵੀ ਲੁਣਿਆ ਖੇਤੁ ॥੪॥੧॥ Says Nanak, in the fourth watch of the night, O mortal, the Grim Reaper has harvested your field. ||4||1|| ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥ Siree Raag, First Mehl: ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਾਲਕ ਬੁਧਿ ਅਚੇਤੁ ॥ In the first watch of the night, O my merchant friend, your innocent mind has a child-like understanding. ਖੀਰੁ ਪੀਐ ਖੇਲਾਈਐ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਸੁਤ ਹੇਤੁ ॥ You drink milk, and you are fondled so gently, O my merchant friend, the mother and father love their child. ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਸੁਤ ਨੇਹੁ ਘਨੇਰਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਸਬਾਈ ॥ The mother and father love their child so much, but in Maya, all are caught in emotional attachment. ਸੰਜੋਗੀ ਆਇਆ ਕਿਰਤੁ ਕਮਾਇਆ ਕਰਣੀ ਕਾਰ ਕਰਾਈ ॥ By the good fortune of good deeds done in the past, you have come, and now you perform actions to determine your future. ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨੁ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ਬੂਡੀ ਦੂਜੈ ਹੇਤਿ ॥ Without the Lord's Name, liberation is not obtained, and you are drowned in the love of duality. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਛੂਟਹਿਗਾ ਹਰਿ ਚੇਤਿ ॥੧॥ Says Nanak, in the first watch of the night, O mortal, you shall be saved by remembering the Lord. ||1|| ਦੂਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਭਰਿ ਜੋਬਨਿ ਮੈ ਮਤਿ ॥ In the second watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you are intoxicated with the wine of youth and beauty. ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਕਾਮਿ ਵਿਆਪਿਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਅੰਧੁਲੇ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਚਿਤਿ ॥ Day and night, you are engrossed in sexual desire, O my merchant friend, and your consciousness is blind to the Naam. ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਘਟ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਹੋਰਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਰਸ ਕਸ ਮੀਠੇ ॥ The Lord's Name is not within your heart, but all sorts of other tastes seem sweet to you. ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਗੁਣ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਨਮਿ ਮਰਹੁਗੇ ਝੂਠੇ ॥ You have no wisdom at all, no meditation, no virtue or self-discipline; in falsehood, you are caught in the cycle of birth and death. ਤੀਰਥ ਵਰਤ ਸੁਚਿ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਰਮੁ ਧਰਮੁ ਨਹੀ ਪੂਜਾ ॥ Pilgrimages, fasts, purification and self-discipline are of no use, nor are rituals, religious ceremonies or empty worship. ਨਾਨਕ ਭਾਇ ਭਗਤਿ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਵਿਆਪੈ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥ O Nanak, emancipation comes only by loving devotional worship; through duality, people are engrossed in duality. ||2|| ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਸਰਿ ਹੰਸ ਉਲਥੜੇ ਆਇ ॥ In the third watch of the night, O my merchant friend, the swans, the white hairs, come and land upon the pool of the head. ਜੋਬਨੁ ਘਟੈ ਜਰੂਆ ਜਿਣੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਆਵ ਘਟੈ ਦਿਨੁ ਜਾਇ ॥ Youth wears itself out, and old age triumphs, O my merchant friend; as time passes, your days diminish. ਅੰਤਿ ਕਾਲਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਸੀ ਅੰਧੁਲੇ ਜਾ ਜਮਿ ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਆ ॥ At the last moment, you repent-you are so blind!-when the Messenger of Death seizes you and carries you away. ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਅਪੁਨਾ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਰਾਖਿਆ ਖਿਨ ਮਹਿ ਭਇਆ ਪਰਾਇਆ ॥ You kept all your things for yourself, but in an instant, they are all lost. ਬੁਧਿ ਵਿਸਰਜੀ ਗਈ ਸਿਆਣਪ ਕਰਿ ਅਵਗਣ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥ Your intellect left you, your wisdom departed, and now you repent for the evil deeds you committed. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਤੀਜੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਚੇਤਹੁ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥੩॥ Says Nanak, O mortal, in the third watch of the night, let your consciousness be lovingly focused on God. ||3|| ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਰੈਣਿ ਕੈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਬਿਰਧਿ ਭਇਆ ਤਨੁ ਖੀਣੁ ॥ In the fourth watch of the night, O my merchant friend, your body grows old and weak. ਅਖੀ ਅੰਧੁ ਨ ਦੀਸਈ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਕੰਨੀ ਸੁਣੈ ਨ ਵੈਣ ॥ Your eyes go blind, and cannot see, O my merchant friend, and your ears do not hear any words. ਅਖੀ ਅੰਧੁ ਜੀਭ ਰਸੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਰਹੇ ਪਰਾਕਉ ਤਾਣਾ ॥ Your eyes go blind, and your tongue is unable to taste; you live only with the help of others. ਗੁਣ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਿਉ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਆਵਣ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ With no virtue within, how can you find peace? The self-willed manmukh comes and goes in reincarnation. ਖੜੁ ਪਕੀ ਕੁੜਿ ਭਜੈ ਬਿਨਸੈ ਆਇ ਚਲੈ ਕਿਆ ਮਾਣੁ ॥ When the crop of life has matured, it bends, breaks and perishes; why take pride in that which comes and goes? ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰੈ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਪਛਾਣੁ ॥੪॥ Says Nanak, O mortal, in the fourth watch of the night, the Gurmukh recognizes the Word of the Shabad. ||4|| ਓੜਕੁ ਆਇਆ ਤਿਨ ਸਾਹਿਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਜਰੁ ਜਰਵਾਣਾ ਕੰਨਿ ॥ Your breath comes to its end, O my merchant friend, and your shoulders are weighed down by the tyrant of old age. ਇਕ ਰਤੀ ਗੁਣ ਨ ਸਮਾਣਿਆ ਵਣਜਾਰਿਆ ਮਿਤ੍ਰਾ ਅਵਗਣ ਖੜਸਨਿ ਬੰਨਿ ॥ Not one iota of virtue came into you, O my merchant friend; bound and gagged by evil, you are driven along. ਗੁਣ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਜਾਵੈ ਚੋਟ ਨ ਖਾਵੈ ਨਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਜੰਮਣੁ ਮਰਣਾ ॥ One who departs with virtue and self-discipline is not struck down, and is not consigned to the cycle of birth and death. ਕਾਲੁ ਜਾਲੁ ਜਮੁ ਜੋਹਿ ਨ ਸਾਕੈ ਭਾਇ ਭਗਤਿ ਭੈ ਤਰਣਾ ॥ The Messenger of Death and his trap cannot touch him; through loving devotional worship, he crosses over the ocean of fear. ਪਤਿ ਸੇਤੀ ਜਾਵੈ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਸਗਲੇ ਦੂਖ ਮਿਟਾਵੈ ॥ He departs with honor, and merges in intuitive peace and poise; all his pains depart. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਛੂਟੈ ਸਾਚੇ ਤੇ ਪਤਿ ਪਾਵੈ ॥੫॥੨॥ Says Nanak, when the mortal becomes Gurmukh, he is saved and honored by the True Lord. ||5||2||
  11. People say that the assassination caused a genocide on the streets of India. No, it did not. This wasn't a spontaneous act. People just didn't have kerosene and spare rubber tyres under the kitchen sink. They didn't just randomly have voters lists which contain Sikh names. Reports (Nanavanti Comission) said white powder was found that set people on fire immediately. The powder cannot be identified; it has come from some Government agency. This was a pre-planned attack against our nation. Regardless of whether Indra was killed or not, a time would've come where they would've set out to attack Sikhs. They could use any excuse. A civilised country which claims to be the worlds largest democracy should not attack a whole religion just because 2 of its members happen to kill the PM. It cannot be justified at all. When Rajiv Gandhi was killed, why wasn't there a sudden outburst against Tamils? When Gandhi was killed by a Hindu extremist, no one began attacking Hindus in the streets. And Hindus should not be blamed for the genocide. Many tried to save Sikhs and helped them after. This was a pre-planned by the government, not Hindu people. Our fight has always been with tyrannical governments, be it the Mughals or India. If Indra wasn't assassianted, who knows what she would have done. A senior offical for the Indian Army released a book. Dr. Sangat Singh said Operation Shanti was planned. This was going to be a mass genocide against Sikhs all over Punjab. The UN investigation on the genocide needs to be done so we can find out if Op. Shanti was really planned. Shaheed Bhai Beant Singh, Satwant Singh and Kehar Singh put our fallen pagh back on to our heads and reclaimed our honour.
  12. Hell, if she had been left alive, who knows what would have happened? Are you saying the Singhs who killed Massa Rangarh are not shaheeds? Are you saying the shaheeds who fought Mughals are not shaheeds? Fighting Mughals caused many genocides for Sikhs.
  13. Looking for the Sant Jarnail Singh dharna "dharam sir ditta baaz nahi rehna". Anyone know where I can find it?
  14. What did Sikhs do when Massa Rangarh was killed? Did they celebrate?
  15. Yeah it's very common for drivers to take longer routes and pretend like they don't know where they are going. Learn some routes if you can and try to stop drivers ripping you off. As everyone else said kirpan might cause some trouble. Learn the word for vegetarian etc. so you can communicate about your diet. Rome is a really nice city though, have fun.
  16. I can't sleep with a barehead. I just tie a small keski (1-2 larhs). A saropa works fine to tie around your head. It's comfort thing for me. It stops my hair from getting knots in it as well.
  17. true, it was on another forum though so I don't want to make it seem as if I'm backing down.
  18. I don't know him in real life. And I guess he was hypothetically speaking, as in IF my wife drank. The problem I had was that he didn't find beadbi of SGGS bad. As Sikhs we should never accept the beadbi of our Guru.
  19. paaji, he knows about the hukamnama, but doesn't respect it. He says the jathdaars are fakes and have no right to tell him how to practise. He said what if his wife drinks and he wanted to keep SGGS at home, it isn't his fault.
  20. Guys a joke. He asked me "why are you even a Sikh?". When I said the rehat maryada is there to be followed. He's a "new-age" type and believes he can question things. He said the rehat maryada is just made up by old guys in India who have no right to tell him how to practise. He asked for proof from Guru's time. i also used the Massa Rangarh point on him and asked if he would support him. He said his house and Darbar Sahib are two different things (I don't see how, a Gurdwara is anywhere the SGGS is).
  21. I told him this, but he said "it's my property, I can practise my religion however I want". He just won't listen.
  22. We were talking about the hukamana issued about alcohol. He said it isn't up to them to make decisions for him. If he wanted to keep SGGS he would. He also said that he doesn't care if beadbi takes place. I showed him pics of beadbi and he said he doesn't care. If it was happenning at a gurdwara/dera, he would leave and go to another one. He is now demanding proof from historical documents that show beadbi cannot take place against SGGS and that you can't keep alcohol,
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