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Italy and the Sikhs >>About a century or two ago, the Pope decided that all the Sikhs >> >>had to leave Italy. Naturally there was a big uproar from the >> >>Sikh community. So the Pope made a deal. He would have a >> >>religious debate with a member of the Sikh community. If the >> >>Sikh won, the Sikhs could stay. If the >> >>Pope won, >> >>the Sikhs would leave. The Sikhs realized that they had no >> >>choice. >> >>So they >> >>picked a middle-aged man named Harbinder Singh to represent >> >>them. Harbinder asked for one addition to the debate. To make >> >>it more interesting, neither side would be allowed to talk. The >> >>Pope agreed. >> >>The day of the great debate came. Harbinder Singh and the >> >>Pope >>sat opposite each other for a full minute. Then the Pope raised >> >>his hand and showed three fingers. Harbinder looked back at him >> >>and raised one finger. The Pope waved his fingers in a circle >> >>around his head. Harbinder pointed to the >> >>ground where he sat. The Pope pulled out a wafer and a glass of >> >>wine. >> >>Harbinder pulled out an apple. >> >>The Pope stood up and said, "I give up. This man is too good. >> >>The Sikhs can stay." >> >>An hour later, the cardinals were all around the Pope asking >> >>him what had happened. The Pope said, "First I held up three >> >>fingers to represent the holy trinity. He responded by holding >> >>up one finger to remind me that there was still one God common >> >>to both our religions. Then I waved my finger around me to show >> >>him that God was all around us. He responded by pointing to the >> >>ground and showing that God was also right here with us. I >> >>pulled out the wine and wafer >> >>to >> >>show >> >>that God >> >>absolves us from our sins. He pulled out an apple to remind >> >>me >>of original sin. He had an answer for everything. What could I >> >>do?" >> >>Meanwhile, the Sikh community had crowded around Harbinder >> >>Singh."What happened?" they asked "Well," said Harbinder, >> >>First he said to me that the Sikhs had three days to get out >> >>of here. I told him to get lost and not one of us was leaving. >> >>Then he told me that this whole city would be cleared of Sikhs. >> >>I let him know that we were staying right here." >> >>Yes, and then???" asked the crowd. >> >>I don't know", said Harbinder, "He took out his lunch, and I >>took out mine!!!"

I was reading the senchia of Guru Granth Sahib Ji n i don't understand some of the things innit, cuz the explanation isn't developed very well.... can sum1 explain the meaning of the following questions in more depth plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!! What are the 36 ages? Whats the mythical bull in Gurbaani? Whats the 10 incarnations? What are the 3 worlds? What are the 6 Shaastars and simitratis- i think thats what it is...cnt remember??? :doh: :doh: :doh:

I've had a few weird dreams about sikhi....i'm this totally different person n dis voice comes and tells me to help sikhi in some way, i can't put down exactly wot is said but its totally bizarre, mayb its guruji telling me summit??? thers sumtymz kirtan goin on n fings....mmmmmmmm interesting!! i woz reading Guru Granth Sahib Ji d other day n i fink it was Guru Ramdas/Arjun Dev Ji and it sed that this whole world is a dream!!!! I was told by some1 2 dat this world is a dream more like a nightmare because we r faced with Kaljug...we need 2 break out of this dream and meditate on the True ONE!!!

thanx 4 the advice guys much appreciated...i fink my ardaas is cumin true... thank waheguru!!!!!!!!!11 me and my mum bin to c sant baba Ranjit singh, dhadrian wale and his kirtan and katha was absolutely wiked!!!! He kept tellin d sangat 2 tek amrit and dat theres nutin in this world apart from this....he was also tellin sangat about the sacrifices Dasmesh pitta Guru Gobind Singh Ji had dun 4 us in order to create a Khalsa 4 us!!! My mum was reli touched by wot he sed n we were both guna take amrit but she backed out.... :doh: But in about 2 weeks tym hopefully i will b tekin amrit directly from Sant baba ranjit singh himself!!! Yippppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :doh: :TH: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

i heard that Robinson's Orange drink and Lucozade Orange flavour has some form of animal product, probably wot u guys talkin bout: fish gelatin!! i fink basically all orange drink products contain some form of animal product....somefing 2 do wid 'Beta Carotene': got some animal in it. My sistaz a scientist n she sed dat its a colourin taken from carrots or oranges.... dunno though i don't trust dat statement...lol, wot a nice brother i am i don't even trust my own sista...lol. :doh: I written letters to d companies, so jus have to wait n c wot they say?????????/ :e:

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Fateh Ji That short biography was wicked....totally understand about ppl staring at ya, i get all the tym!!! :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh......... Thanx 4 the advice man, much appreciated....the thing is they jus think i'm rushing into sikhi too quick. i used to be a mona b4 but had loads of pyar 4 sikhi and wanted to grow kes, used to read gurbaani etc. i used to think that i read Gurbaani and then cut my hair...wasn't i contradicting sikhi then??? Eventually i decided one day that i'm jus guna go 4 it and did it but now there's an obstruction at home because every1 finks ive been brainwashed into sikhi???? i dunno how they got that idea into their heads?? they happy i kept my kes and that but getting up and doing nitnem, keeping a rehat, remaining a strict veggie and wanting to take amrit is too far????????? wheneva ne1 mentions that theres guna b an Amritsanchar i get pushed towards it but then don't take amrit because of the pressure at home.... i do ardaas and that but its not the same because at times i feel like an outsider in my own home!!!

Wjkk Wjkf..... I've heard that Baani too....wicked innit!!! I've been told by some Gursikhs that wearing a Sarbloh shastar actually keeps the ghosts away??? :doh:

Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Ji will be cumin 2 Wolverhampton on the Sunday 26th of June: 12.00-2.30pm and on Monday 27th June: 7.30-9.30pm. The Gurdwara is called Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara, Sedgley Street, Wolverhampton, its off Dudely Road....

Thanks alot man...much appreciated. :doh:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 The problem with this situation is you have been taken by Kaljug, it is up to a Gursikh to fight against all this and become one with Waheguru.......... You talk about losing some connection with Guru Ji and have more preference for more materialistic things....Bani states that these things will not have any relevance when leave this world and its kaljug that is trying to make you feel as though you are losing this connection with Guru Ji. You was born a Sikh and will die a Sikh....in the eyes of Guru Ji you are his Sikh. The day you took amrit you gave your head to Guru Ji... and if you read the Sukhmani Sahib paat, Guru Arjun Dev Ji says.... Man beche satgur ke pass,Tis sevak ke karaj raas' The day you give your mind to Waheguru all things will be solved and accomplished!!! So its just a matter of time when Waheguru takes you out this darkness and into the true light. Don't worry man...Waheguru Jani Jaan....he will sort summit out!!! Keep reading baani and you will definately find the answers!!!! :TH: May Maharaj Ji bless you with a Gursikhi jivan and help you fight this battle against Kaljug!!!

:doh: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!!!!!!!!! I need sum advice ppl about taking amrit.... i really really really really want to take amrit but my parents won't let me. This Vaisakhi i was guna take and it jus didn't happen cuz my mum found out and sed that i'm too young. By the way i'm only 19 years old... My amritdhari friends sed that i'm allowed to keep a rehat..which i'm doing, i do nitnem and wear the panj Kakkar....there was debate at home about this too... i was told to take off all kakkar and not keep a rehat and just eat muchi, meat and anadai..... but i don't wana do that.... i asked panj pyara and he sed i'm allowed to keep a rehat!!! Things have started to calm down and i'm allowed to keep the rehat but i still get the comments at home and taking amrit is just out of the question.... Some days i feel like taking amrit, some days i don't.... what u guys fink i shud do?? do i take it undercover or wot....actaully thats a bad idea i might get shitar wen i go home.... But i found this rehatnama that states that a sikh should take amrit once in their lifetime if they don't they face the consequences.... Rehat Bina nehi Sikh Kahave, rehat bine dar chota Kavahe..... I really want to take Amrit... give me sum Rehatname or summit or sum advice on what i shud do...................

:nihungsmile: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!!!!! Jus reading this topic n was slightly confused about the chaupai sahib paat? During nitnem i do: Tuvprasad Chaupai: Prunvo aad ikankara... but sum ppl, especially amritdhari Sikhs have said they never heard of this chaupai sahib da paat and jus do: Humari Karo Hath de racha....? plz leme no if i'm doin the right one in the morning........................... Waheguru......... On the topic of chaupai sahib da paat i've had many debates about the different versions we have. In Rehras Sahib, my Chaupai Sahib begins with...Pun Rashas ke ka kata sisa..... but some ppl say that there shud be two more lines b4 this and others agree with the chaupai paat i do.. However this Chaupai is really really long and has bout 8 Doharas after? Jus chatin with sum ppl they sed that the Chaupai Sahib shud end with samabat sutar sehs bhunijai....tir satdhruv granth sudahara....? But mine is much longer than this and carries on.... its really interesting and wanted to know which Chaupai Sahib u guys do in the morning and evening... dusor plz............... :doh: