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On 1/18/2022 at 1:35 AM, GurjantGnostic said:
Watching you 3ho.
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State-wide protests were held over the sacrilege incidents of 2015. Tribune file photo
Tribune News Service
Saurabh Malik
Chandigarh, January 18
Nearly five years have lapsed since the incidents of sacrilege, subsequent protests by the people and police firing tore apart the social fabric in Punjab, leaving two persons dead, several injured and wounds that refuse to heal even with time. Bringing out the truth behind the events before and after the incidents of sacrilege in the State is “The Sacrilege” — a non-fiction by Justice Ranjit Singh.
“This book presents the results of the investigation sparing none, including powerful politicians, and is an eye-opener with startling revelations presented with facts. It is written in lucid and simple language unfolding the tragedy of events that occurred,” says Justice Ranjit Singh — a former Judge of the Punjab and Haryana High Court, who headed the commission of inquiry set up to look into the incidents of sacrilege.
The book, having the potential to affect the fate of the impending assembly elections in the State, is scheduled to be released on Wednesday noon at the Chandigarh Press Club by former Chief Justices, Justice S.S. Sodhi and Justice Manmohan Singh Liberhan, along with former Supreme Court Judge, Justice HS Bedi and Punjab and Haryana High Court Judge Justice Nawab Singh.
Justice Ranjit Singh says the book dwells deep into the circumstances leading to the incidents of sacrilege and the events that unfolded after it, including the affixing of posters and scattering of “holy angs of Saroop of Guru Granth Sahib ji”.
“It hurt the sentiments of the Sikh community and the entire nation, leaving indelible scars, which are impossible to heal. Not only was blatant sacrilege committed, it was unfortunately followed by the firing of police personnel on innocent protesters leading to loss of human life. Various investigations by a special investigating team and a former Judge into these cases made little headway, leaving the public clamouring for justice,” says Justice Ranjit Singh.
Talking about the commission and its report, Justice Ranjit Singh says it carried out the investigation without bias. “The book, for the first time, has brought out the complete truth in the public domain,” Justice Ranjit Singh adds.
The firing at Kotkapura took place on October 14, 2015, after sacrilege. In his report tabled before the Vidhan Sabha, Justice Ranjit Singh asserted the responsibility of action at Kotkapura to forcefully evict the protestors sitting on peaceful dharna squarely lied with the police.
Justice Ranjit Singh had added the incident of sacrilege was such that the public was bound to react in the manner it did. In any case, it was not unusual for the public to sit on dharna to protest. The compulsion on the part of the police to act was due to pressure from the then government.
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10 hours ago, justasking said:
so my massi has a photo of Krishna at her house idk why she does is this acceptable for Sikhs to do this? I avoid visiting her and her family because I don't want to be associated with these type of people.They have 0 ounce of SIkhi in their life and are like wanna be westernised am i in the wrong for wanting to break contact with them?
Why don't you ask your Maasi?
Maybe she has her reasons...
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Update
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/domestic-abuse-south-asian-communities-b1992278.html?ampWOMEN
‘My mother said if I left him the shame would destroy the family’: The silencing of South Asian abuse
A recent report revealed that seven in ten Sikhs suffer abuse at the hands of a partner or relative. Minreet Kaur asks what can be done
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Maybe they're doing something to help in that Misconduct Investigation against WMP Officers who racially attacked the Singh.
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On 1/9/2022 at 10:23 AM, GurjantGnostic said:
I mean they could have right? Unless they know not to go there.
No one wants to say !
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Related group including the person who replied
https://swanempower.co.uk/about-us/
This is what they say:
SUPPORT NETWORK FOR WOMEN & VICTIMS OF ABUSE
• To provide one to one support for victims of Domestic Abuse, Child Sexual Exploitation, Grooming & Honour Based Violence
• To provide a support network and guidance for socially and economically disadvantaged women
• To provide a forum for women to engage in dialogue to discuss challenges and issues facing them.
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1 hour ago, Jassu said:
About Turks – tbh I have never really met a Turk. The men are usually weird perverts online and the women are pretty. They’re very secular and a lot of them will proclaim to hate Islam. They are like Iranians in that way – they don’t really give a sh!t about Islam. However, diaspora care more about religion and their heritage and a lot of Europeans have pointed out how the Turkish diaspora are not very integrated in places like Germany & the Netherlands. They’re big Erdogan supporters. I think it’s somehow similar to how a lot of diaspora Muslims become more fanatically Muslim & radicalised.
The ones in London (mostly Cypriot Turks) usually are quite low profile, friendly and secular. I think the migration to other European countries was more from mainland Turkey, and for whatever reason, they are quite different to the ones here.
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26 minutes ago, Jassu said:
In terms of beauty? Nordics and Germanics, without a doubt.
In terms of cultural impact and output? Anglos and their descendants.
In terms of behaviour and discipline? Germans, Dutch. (Germanics in general).
In terms of religiosity and more traditional values? Eastern Europeans.
In terms of coping with racism and bitterness at being second rate whites? Italians, Spanish, Greeks and Portuguese. (They are unironically more racist than ‘whiter’ whites).
As much as I hate colonialism and the ill effects of it – I would say I am thankful it was the British who colonised India and not the French, Spanish, Portuguese, Germans, Dutch, etc, lol.
In terms of behaviour and discipline? Germans, Dutch. (Germanics in general). Dutch don't 'like' Germans, a lot to do with WW2. I think they also are quite different culturally even though they are neighbouring countries. Dutch speak their mind more, they are less emotionally constrained.
In terms of coping with racism and bitterness at being second rate whites? Italians, Spanish, Greeks and Portuguese. (They are unironically more racist than ‘whiter’ whites). Think that's a very generalised statement, and not sure it's that true. And to be honest, many of these peoples have sizeable minorities of their population who are as dark or darker as lighter Indians. Especially Greeks. In that sense, they are not very 'white' in my opinion
@JassuWhat do you think about Turks - a very heterogenous people.
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Just now, Jassu said:
What can an average man in his early 30s do? Do you think just because he's white, the radio hosts will listen to him?
Yes.
It will show them not only Sikhs are angry but 'typical' Dutch people also
You can then show us the updates...
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Thoughts please @shastarSingh
https://www.baaznews.org/p/up-sikhs-punjab-sikhs-discrimination
Sandeep Singh: U.P. Sikhs Strictly Uphold Sikhi Yet Face Discrimination From Punjabi Sikhs
Ajmer Singh feels that many Punjabi Sikhs discriminate against them for speaking Hindi, even though U.P. Sikhs have largely stayed truer to Sikhi
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Photo Credit: Sandeep Singh | Guru Gobind Singh Chowk, Lakhimpur Kheri, UP.
Sandeep Singh
January 13, 2022 | 5 min. read | Original ReportingThe Lakhimpur Kheri massacre in October 2021 brought with it greater awareness and attention to the existence of old Sikh communities in Uttar Pradesh (UP).
Baaz visited some villages in the area to garner a better understanding of how local Sikhs live and their, at times problematic, experience with Punjabi Sikhs.
Amritpal Singh, 40, is a local farmer and shares that the history of Sikhs in UP is long.
“Since Maharaja Ranjit Singh’s era, Sikhs are living in this region. Actually, it is our 13th generation living here. This story passed from generation to generation and we only have heard oral stories.”
His village, Diva, is in UP’s Baharaich District. There are nearly 300 Sikh homes, and about 20 Hindu ones.
“There are 7-8,000 Sikhs in four to five villages between Dhanauli Khurd, Ghora, Matera, and Chotepur of this district,” shares Amritpal Singh.
The majority of local Sikhs are dependent on farming, with some working as home guards in the UP police.
“Sikhs here are extremely poor but they have built a huge Gurudwara Sahib and Langar Hall where they organize Langars on Gurupurab and invite Gatka teams for competition.”
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17 minutes ago, Jassu said:
No, 'my' Dutch man is considerably more handsome and isn't 50 years old, lol.
If he wants to prove his worth, he should do something for this case
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22 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:I like this ghar WASPi. That where we drive the snakes out? Lol
I'd counteract them with other foreign converts who are actually loyal to Sikhi. A deeply committed and melanin bearing group with all the right properties to dominate these fakes. Allied with descendent Khalsa.
Overly civilized Sikhs they aren't worried about. They might find the motley crew of my imagination harder ro ignore.
I'd accept pale skins but they would not be my target demographic. And they'd be vetted.
Once I had enough momentum I'd try and bridge over to whitey.
I simply refuse to have an all white Sangat. If that's all you can manage? There's something wrong with you. I mean says a lot when there's no melanin in a group.
'ghar wapsi' means 'returning home' ; so bringing 'home' those who have 'gone away' from Sikhi.
In this context, what I really meant was to bring those white Sikhs properly into Sikhi in the first place. They already follow a lot of Rehat and Bani
I think brown and white people mixing freely is unlikely to happen in big numbers very soon though
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On 1/14/2022 at 2:45 PM, GurjantGnostic said:
Was he in 'V for Vendetta'...
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13 hours ago, Redoptics said:
Did you say you can not read Gurmukhi?
I can read it
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On 1/13/2022 at 8:45 AM, GurjantGnostic said:
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/457/1082/2347746/
Wright V Raines.
Kesh is protected by the supreme court.
Well, maybe our Sikh brother could take this further...
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On 1/14/2022 at 6:58 PM, dallysingh101 said:
This stupid mentality of bullying amritdharis for being 'gianis' and whatnot is your own people's preserve, specifically Doaba.
I think this is mentality is present in Malwa especially too, at least the more 'modern' areas.
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On 1/13/2022 at 12:06 PM, GurjantGnostic said:
Not sure where to park this link but it covers an issue that seems to come up a lot in various threads.
Without watching the video, all people have bias, conscious or subconscious
Women generally seem to get off more easily. And colored get harsher sentences
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This is how they repay their local community
Correspondent22nd Mar, 2019- MEMBERS of faith and non-faith groups alike gathered outside Redditch’s Central Mosque today in a show of solidarity and to remember the victims of the Christchurch terror attack which took place in New Zealand last week, writes Henri Bujard.
Joining them were leading members of the local community, members of the public, and representing Her Majesty the Queen, the Deputy Lord Lieutenant of Worcestershire Patricia Bradbury MBE.
Their message was simple – we stand together, shoulder to shoulder, and we will not let terror tear us apart.
The gathering had opened with a prayer from the Koran followed by a two minute silence before organiser Raf Hussain said: “Let us today pledge to fight hatred as one unified force and condemn the criminals who wish to sow division by using religion or race.”
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4 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:@Premi5 They get an invite yet or not yet?
They took 3 weeks to reply to my email.
I doubt they will want to put themselves under scrutiny here, and I now think it would be a waste of time
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56 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:
His Dad was probably a Chechen or Tartar.
If his grandfather was Israeli, then probably his father is Jewish...
Perlin seems to be a Jewish name when I search google. Maybe the mother is Turkish.
Hope this is not the 'Dutch' man @Jassuhas been talking to...
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3HO sikhs should re-convert to authentic Sikhi or drop the name
in GUPT FORUM
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These 'second gen' 3HO do really good Keertan
https://www.sikhnet.com/gurbani/artist/chardikala-jatha
Chardikala Jatha
The Chardhi Kala Jatha consists of multiple musicians, Jugat Guru Singh Khalsa, Sada Sat Simran Singh Khalsa, Hari Mander Jot Singh Khalsa, Ajai Singh Khalsa, Hargobind Singh Khalsa, and GurPrakash Singh Khalsa. They sing classical Gurbani Kirtan in traditional raag as taught to them from the classical music master Ustaad Narinder Singh Sandhu. The Jatha travels the world playing gurbani kirtan at gurudwaras. They feel blessed to have played on many special occasions at the Golden Temple, Harimandir Sahib in Amritsar.
@shastarSingh - you know them ?