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THIS IS JUST GREAT KIRPA FROM GURU JI

I AM STILL WAITING FOR SOLUTIONS...EVERYONE IS GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES...THE ONLY POSITIVE PROACTIVE THING MENTIONED IS PARCHAAR....THIS IS 100% NEEDED...IT IS ALL OUR RESPONSIBILITY...SO LETS GET GOING....IT SHOULD HELP PREVENT FUTURE BEADBIS.....WHAT ABOUT ONGOING BEADBI? GURMAT DISCUSSION IS ALWAYS HAD. BUT IF YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MIND THAT THIS ISNT A BEADBI OR PEOPLE ARE RUNNING AROUND AFTER THEIR EGOS THEN THERE IS NO POINT DISCUSSING IT FURTHER.

AKAASH WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE SOLUTION TO PREVENTING BEADBI? JUST BECAUSE YOU ONLY SEE THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY POP OUT AT A PROTEST DOES IT MEAN THEY DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THE OPINIONS ARE NOT TAKEN ON BOARD??? I DONT THINK A SIKH STRUGGLES TO TAKE OTHERS OPINIONS INTO ACCOUNT. I THINK YOUR OPINION HAS BEEN HEARD...LIKE YOU SAID YOU HAVE AIRED YOUR CONCERNS...WHAT HAPPENS IS AFTER A WHILE IT BECOMES A BIT BORING...MAYBE THATS WHY THEY ARE YAWNING...I DONT THINK THEY SHOULD YAWN...JUST TELLING YOU A POSSIBLE REASON. “solution is not a bunch of Robin Hood type characters slapping their own backs every time they claim to save the Guru”, A STATEMENT LIKE THIS IS NOT LIKELY TO RECIEVE A GOOD RECEPTION. WHY INSULT YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS LIKE THIS???? NO ONE CAN SAVE GURU JI. IF YOU CALL SOMEONE 'ROBIN HOOD TYPE CHARACTER' THEN OF COURSE THEY WILL THINK YOU ARE BEING NEGATIVE. IS THIS A CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM? IT IS GOOD WE HAVE DIFFERENT VIEW POINTS....SHOWS WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL ANGLES. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS BELIEVE ME OPINIONS ARE TAKEN ON BOARD.

WHO ARE YOU AKAASH? IF YOU ARE WHO I THINK YOU ARE...THEN STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE...FEEL THE SPIRIT. LIVE AND LET LIVE. IF YOU HAVE A BETTER WAY TO TACKLE ISSUES THEN WHY NOT GO OUT AND DO THAT. OR IN A CONSTRUCTIVE WAY PUT THEM FORWARD. WITHOUT BASHING NEXT MAN. LETS NOT BICKER WITH EACHOTHER. DO SOME SIMRAN.

ANYTHING THE SANGAT CAN DO? SHUD WE CARRY ON SENDING LETTERS?

GOOD TO SEE THE R4G STILL AT WORK. http://www.sikhsangat.org/ssn/publish/Engl...ara_Sahib.shtml Wedding Re-arranged to Gurdwara Sahib Jan 16, 2007 - 3:57:45 PM Email this article Printer friendly page Over the past three years the Sikh Community has united to stop the abuse of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Sikh Principles. To date over 170 Anand Karaj’s have been re-arranged from hotels, banqueting suites, clubs etc, where alcohol, meat & tobacco are served, to Gurdwaras. Guru Ji has blessed all those involved in resolving these situations. This year a wedding taking place on 28th January has already been re-arranged with the help of the Family of the bride. We would like to publicly thank the Gill family for their co-operation and most of all their respect for Guru Ji. They have shown so much sharda towards Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that we felt the need, with their permission to name them. The campaign has also been made aware of another anand karaj which took place in a hotel. But no information has been forthcoming. The Sangat must continue to be vigilant and act effectively on issues of abuse towards Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Sikh Principles. We collectively need to educate all those around us, family, friends, and colleagues. With the “wedding season” commencing soon, the UK Sikh Community implore those who are planning to conduct an Anand Karaj in a hotel, club, banqueting suite, etc, to rearrange to a Gurdwara Sahib maintaining respect for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. All Gurdwara Sahibs and Gianis need to take note that they are in danger of being singled out by people and given the blame for issues of disrespect. Taking Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to a hotel or any such establishment where meat, alcohol & tobacco are served is a sacrilegious act, totally in contradiction to the teachings of our Gurus and edicts from Sri Akal Takht Sahib. Building on from last year the Campaign has again been in contact with most venues and wedding arrangers. Sevadaars are also meeting with Gurdwara Committees across the UK to work alongside them to increase the parchaar regarding the respect for Guru Ji. We urge all Sikhs to take the task of joint responsibility and stop leaving our collective problems for someone else to sort out. We must be honest about Sikhi principles and not selfish about compromising these principles for our own benefit or for the benefit of our friends, relations or acquaintances. Respect For Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Campaign. Tel: 07944-445651 Email: sikhalerts@yahoo.co.uk Web: www.Respect4GuruJi.co.uk Blog: www.Respect4Guruji.blogspot.com Working together, the UK Sikh Community will uphold Sikh Rehit Maryada and maintain respect for Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

IS NAKLI BABA STILL HERE? HOW COME IF HE IS BANNED FROM EVERYONE WE LET HIM DO A NAGAR KIRTAN WITH MAHARAJ? WHY IS HE ALLOWED TO PARADE GURU JI THROUGH THE STREETS?

and may i ask who the hell made this rule? or is it just all in your narrow minded head? WHATS THE POINT OF DISCUSSING THESE TOPICS? YOU THINK YOU ARE GONNA CONVINCE SOMEONE BY CALLING THEM NARROW MINDED? DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS RUBBISH. IF YOU WANNA EAT IT...THEN GO FOR IT. IF YOU DONT WANNA EAT IT THEN DONT. WHILE YOU CANT DECIDE AS A PANTH PLEASE DONT BRING IT INTO THE GURDWARA. AND BY THE WAY IT AINT GONNA GET DECIDED BY US FOOLS ON HERE. SO WHY WE WASTING OUR TIME. THE ISSUE IS DONCASTER GURDWARA. DISCUSS THAT. I DONT THINK THEY ARE MAKING JHATKA ....OR AM I SOOO NARROW MINDED THAT I MISSED IT.

WHAT EVER YOUR VIEW EVERYONE KNOWS YOU CANNOT MAKE MEAT IN A GURDWARA. EVEN MOST BHATRA GURDWARAS KNOW THIS. THE FACT THAT SOMEONE DOES THIS DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT.

WHY CANT WE JUST DO KIRTAN AND SIMRAN, WHY THE NEED FOR BHANGRA???? JUST CAUSE YOU WANNA DO BHANGRA BUT YOU CANT GO TO A GIG AS YOU ARE AMRITDHARI DONT BRING IT TO THE NAGAR KIRTAN.

I AND OTHERS GOT INVOLVED IN A SILLY ARGUMENT ON THE OTHER THREAD. I THOUGHT WE SHOULD START AFRESH. WE ARE ALL BROS AND SISTERS AND SHOULD LEARN THAT SOMETIMES WE WILL DISAGREE. WHATEVER OUR AGENDAS OR POLITICAL GAMES, PUT THEM ASIDE AND BE POSITIVE. LETS ALL GIVE OUR IDEAS HERE. WHAT SHOULD WE DO IN FUTURE? WHAT SHOULD WE DO NOW TO PREVENT THIS IN FUTURE?

PREM DO YOU AGREE WITH R4G CAMPAIGNS?

PREM YOU GOT SOME LOVELY IDEAS...WHY DONT YOU PUT THEM INTO PRACTICE? RATHER THAN TYPE AN ESSAY ON HERE GO WRITE UP A STRATEGY FOR US LOST SOULS. THE PROTEST WASNT AGAINST ANYONE. I AINT GOT TIME TO ARGUE WITH YOU BRO. THE PROTEST WAS PEACEFUL...HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE THE ORGANISERS HAD ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS? ARE YOU FOR R4G CAMPAIGNS? BRO I AM JUST STATING THE FACTS. THERE WAS NO TROUBLE SO STOP WINGING.

RUPINDER AND PREM WHAT YOU WILL FIND IS EVERYONE AGREES WITH YOU. WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS RATHER THAN SPEND ALL OUR ENERGIES ON THE INTERNET, LETS START LOBBYING MPS. NO ONE WILL DO IT. WE HAVE TO TAKE INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY. NO POINT TRYING TO ARGUE WITH KIDS. IF YOU GOT GOOD IDEAS THEN PUT THEM INTO PRACTICE. DONT WAIT FOR A LEADER TO TELL YOU. THE WAY FORWARD WITH THIS SITUATION IS TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THE POLICE DO. I HAVE FAITH THEY WILL GET THE KIDS WHO DID THIS. IF THEY DONT THEN WE AS SIKHS WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. IN THE MEAN TIME LETS PUT PRESSURE ON MPS AND POLICE. NOTHING STOPPING US RINGING UP THE POLICE AND TELLING THEM HOW CONCERNED YOU ARE AS A SIKH. PUT PRESSURE ON THE LOCAL GURDWARA COMMITTEE TO KEEP THE PRESSURE UP ON THE POLICE. PREM DO YOU DISAGREE WITH R4G CAMPAIGN PROTESTS? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THESE HALLS IN OUR OWN AREAS? WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM???? WAS THERE ANY VIOLENCE? DID SOMEONE TELL YOU THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY? WHY ARE YOU SITTING AT HOME <admin-cut>???

lol. no i didnt get to c tv. i live in brum pm me ur list, it wud b interestin. r u all goin 2 focus ur powers on attackin me now. wats the point. i am a nobody, wat does my opiinion matter. or am i wrong DONT TAKE IT PERSONALLY. I'LL TELL YOU THE BEADBI I KNOW OF IN YOUR AREA. GURDWARAS WITH HALLS: WEDNESFIELD, RAMGARIA BIRMINGHAM, RAMGARIA COVENTRY, LEICESTER RAMGARIA.

RATHER THAN TALK ON THE NET WHY DONT WE TURN UP TO THESE OCCASIONS. IF YOU CARE SOOOO MUCH ABOUT BEADBI WHY NOT GO TO EDINBURGH AND TACKLE THE ISSUE YOURSELF. WHY YOU LEAVING IT TO OTHERS? ARE YOU NOT SIKH? DO YOU NOT HAVE THE GUTS? ARE THEY NOT YOUR GURU? IF YOU HAD BOTHERED TURNING UP YOU MIGHT HAVE NOTICED THE ISSUE WAS RAISED. OK I UNDERSTAND YOU COULD MAKE IT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO WATCH TV. DONT WORRY THERE IS PLENTY OF BEADBI GOING AROUND NEAR YOU. LET ME KNOW WHICH AREA YOU ARE FROM AND I WILL PROVIDE A LIST FOR YOU TO TACKLE. I PROMISE IT WONT BE TOO FAR FOR YOU.

THERE WAS ABOUT 20-30 PEOPLE PRESENT AT THE LONDON VIGIL. THIS IS SHAMEFUL. I KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE SAY WHATS THE POINT, AND IT DOESNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. BUT JUST FOR A MOMENT IMAGINE IT WAS YOUR SISTER OR MUM WHO WAS RAPED, OR YOUR BROTHER OR DAD WHO WAS BURNED ALIVE. WOULD YOU SAY THE SAME? WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER IDEAS. DOING JUST A VIGIL IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. THE FACT THAT WE CANT EVEN TURN UP TO THE ONLY THING WE DO IS EVEN WORSE.

I PHONED PANJAB RADIO AND THEY CANT CONFIRM THIS STORY UNTIL TOMMORROW AS THE NEWSREADER IS NOT THERE TODAY! A MESSAGE TO ALL MY BROS AND SISTERS: CAN WE ALL START BEING POSITIVE AND WORK TOGETHER. DONT JUMP ON SOMEONE FOR POSTING SOMETHING ON HERE. WHY NOT PICK UP THE PHONE AND CHECK FOR YOURSELF? WHY COMPLAIN TO OTHERS?

CAN I HELP IN ANYWAY?

I GOT A RELATIVE WHO TOLD ME THERE IS A BAR IN THE GURDWARA HALL. DISGUSTING.

PLEASE STAY ON THE TOPIC

SORRY I MAKE YOU RIGHT KHARKOO. LETS HAVE MORE FAITH. VAHEGURU PRESERVED NOT BL.

VAHEGUROOOOOO FIRSTLY WE MUST THANK THE BRITISH LIBRARY FOR PRESERVING THE SAROOPS. BUT, THE FACT REMAINS WE CANNOT ALLOW GURU MAHARAJ TO BE KEPT IN A GLASS CABINET OR ANY OTHER CUBOARD. SANGAT JI IMAGINE SOMEONE PUTTING YOUR DAD IN A CABINET. AND THEN NOT TO EVEN DO PROPER SEWA. THIS IS A PAAP. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS BEFORE AND FEEL BAD THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO GO ON.

VAHEGUROOOOOO FIRSTLY WE MUST THANK THE BRITISH LIBRARY FOR PRESERVING THE SAROOPS. BUT, THE FACT REMAINS WE CANNOT ALLOW GURU MAHARAJ TO BE KEPT IN A GLASS CABINET OR ANY OTHER CUBOARD. SANGAT JI IMAGINE SOMEONE PUTTING YOUR DAD IN A CABINET. AND THEN NOT TO EVEN DO PROPER SEWA. THIS IS A PAAP. I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS BEFORE AND FEEL BAD THAT WE HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO GO ON.