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i only listend to baba jagjit singh for the last couple of days and already hes made me see my downfallss.....thats the job of a sant/mahapursh...its gurprad that i listended to his katha as i was stuck in my own illusion of what sikhi is.. sikh is universla/beant.....only five dont take the mick...lets put it this way what do you want to achive throught sikhi?mukht?gyan?yodha?shaster vidya/everything?,,,,,,,,,????if you think you know everything then get on speeches and help sangat......helpl us all....to meet god and meditate on him is an easy theory but to put it into practice is a whole different ball game...lol..reading dasam granth on a literal level is easy even goreh do it.. to put it into arth .. its next level...you need a teacher....only five- as you talk about hocus pocus read jaap sahib properly....paaji with original post listen to neo singh seems like he actually cares about sinhgs...sorry neo singh for past comments if they offended you...fateeeh

I just want that page tobeshown. What ever itis....lucky paji though i agreewith to an extent.. Its not about whywe shudnt call pakis paki. This aint about personal problem with your gorehneighbours..if the singh who put the thread up aint got the balls to put up the actual details then the thread shuldnt have been put up in the first place. Respect to the seva but personally wudve kept gupt.....

Just post whatever it is... Methods used will already be circulating the Pakistani group.. They are ALL connected in UK an abroad...for ppl who don't have accounts can you share..

Paaji.. Why dont you get a singh well versed in adi granthvand dasam granth and debate him.....if you have no one then challenge him to a date and we can sponser someone from uk to debate with him....to be honest im from a poor family but i can give 50 pounds for a gursikh to go challenge him and if 10.ppl can give same anount thats enough for ticket... And youbsinghs in america can giv that person accomodation....

Generally speaking for sargun recitation ofshabad.

Also lukcky singh lets put colestrol aside. Ang1430 is the butter to the 1429 ang...like it is the thorkato the sabji. Like the sugar to the ladoo. Also paaji think of raag as ras/love/prem meqning ang 1430 and meditation meaning all angs up to 1429...now meditation alone can take you places even to dasamduar....but without preM youdont getadvait poran chit anand

Paaji i being sarcastic sorry i will now reply inpure gora seriouness....in all fairness it seems we have found the answer to your weakness by the attempt of you questioning my alleged weakness.so you are putting an xmas tree to please your goreh neighbours in an attempt to reinstate you are no talliban....for many years sikhs celebrated diwali only mainstream sikh now celebrate bandi chor.... Likewise many mainstream celebrate xmas with santa but soon the mainstream will remember thses days for chamkaur as paaji has just wrote of his anand at fatehgarh...also paaji who wrote about fatehgarh your corerct about children, theres a documentaory on nihangs and how baba hari singh edpucated a young child...im not a nihang by the way but one thing that i wil never forget is when the presenter asked the young boy dont you want toys etcand the young boy replied no.. Im having gyan of god and weapons are my toys.something along those lines notquoted.he must have been about6/7 years old... Giani mehtabs brother ..gurmat/sikhi is a philosophy to accept others without the need to indulge so to speak....

Lucky paaji... Ii wish everyone a mery xmas...but still would not have a xmas tree in my house....if i did then i will also change my name to david o fit in with my fellow goreh countrymen.....

No dont have a problem with goreh sikhs you could be purple as far as im concerned..but why the xmastree...all this over axmas tree.im dredding when it comes to eid..then its going to an official sikh sangat internet war..enjoy your soya turkey and ribena...

Lucky....what your really saying is "merry xmas...i hope im a white one..."

Neo ji...money was the motivation and it wasnt an initial intention to comehere until invitation was offered...bro what an insult with comparison to pakis...we serv this country ie taxes etc... Pakis clean tbegovt by fraud..thats real robbing the country...saying merry xmas to someone and having a xmas tree are two different things... One issaying merry xmas have a good one ect which keans you respect their religion/festival...having an xmas tree at home is saying im participating in this festival...what about sikhs living in pakiland do they celebrate eid....im sure they say to their muslim neighbours happy eid but highly doubt they participate...i can understand the typical panjabi family but fora singh tohave axmas tree...for those singhs that have an xmas tree... Do you also go to the church on xmas day to show goreh that we sikhs are open minded so pat us on the back...1994..the next jung for sikhs is going to against sikhs...its going to be a jathabhandi fight....

im off this post with last comment as im getting too involved.. how do i know this i actually got up this morning thinking about this post....never happened before.. need to go pesh for this as i didnt wake up saying waheguru... im sorry if i offended any one...future jatherdhar of akaal thakt- david singh khlasa future jatherdhar of hazoor sahib... John singh khlasa and to please our groreh mates for the special day "xmas period" there wil lbe a big xmas tree next to nishan sahib who we will do a fateh to as it has shaheedi perah..but this is to please our goreh counterparts but to still please our panjabi ppl we will have a khanda at the top of the tree with orange ball things hanging from the tree..and what will top it all off will ba a clasiic.."JESUS WAS INDIAN/SIKH AS HE HAD A BEARD!!"...GOODNESS GRACIOUS ME... again sorry if i offended any one.. my head your feet.....

lucky singh if you sooo muc want be a gorah the <banned word filter activated> offf..whe kahlistan happens than dont come crying this may with your ego......i feel soo ashamed.. has sikh that marg to bring one to brhamgyan come to xmas trees..... i aint givin the guillt trip but im opinion many sikhs just want to impress their goreh country with their turban....all i can say is that is a war kicks offf,, sikhs will fight sikhs first..if i was not soo tired i would give a very long post because your gora nass cannot be definied in 20 words or soo... why are you americans so up goereh.. here in uk we are proud to be panjbi and still work on level of posh goireh.. but you americans feel you have to lick theri bond be be like them...

Paaji if you did not believe at all the you really would not put such a long post here... you belive you just want someone to give you that push/answer etc but you wont get it..when you think god is external then you will argue and debate, when you realise god is inside you then its time t ob e quiet and get on with things...get on with reciting/listening to bani.. it can be any bani...questions your internal self before looking for external answers....we are in the same boat

NEO BRO before you give it that we all came over here stuff and be gratefull, well lets put it in a light way before one gets offended.. let me tell you my grandad and his family was invited to the uk and my naankeh to do the <banned word filter activated> jobs the goreh would not do...so its not a matter of WE came here and WE have to adjust to their principles/customs/traditions etc....WE came here for financial (call it greed if you want) means not at the compromise of our culture/religion....WE WERE INVITED......im taliknf from uk prospective..... xmas is fine as far as im concerned...alot of goreh in genreal get on with sikhs but not pakis... very evident.....it seems to be a pattern that even goreh know the difference between pakis and us indians....... any way going back to xmas/xmas teeee..no problem.. as long at the intentions is sikhi.. in terms of do it for funm/presents/jesus if you may.. dont to id to tell the gorah your one of them or to tell next people we aint muslim (taliban- uk ppl get he pic)............. NEO SINGH this is all karm.... goreh invaded us now we ae coming into their country..........i have no time to go into this as its really irrelevant..... singh... the queen of england still gets a profit from the sale of indian tea(and others)... so who should be greatfull..... world war 2 in particular sikhs made things happen,, sorry for my unproper english..... no doubt the system is good especially in england with welfare..etc.... how many goreh on large scale(not ur immediate friend) say happy vaisakhi/guru nanak jaam etc.... without sikhs consider world war nazis...again we were invited neo singh from the same people ivaded our land.. and singh.. my family were from west panjab (pakistan) they had to see real <banned word filter activated> on thieir travels.. so dont hink cos your sitting on a good cushions its all goodd... bhagat is that that can put himself in others shoes not look from his high horse......

Sorry for rude word... It wasenglish word oftuteee...number2

Luky singh im on.my phone if i was on pc id givu an SA......gud u aint got pakis ner u id hate to think how you wOuld dealwith them..paaji not just you...but also in myfamily....why are you sooo eager to pleasethe gorah...do you really put the xmas show onto celebrate truth or to tell your goreh friends you are not taliban and one of them............ Now i can understand why sadhus just run to caves...this is soooo <banned word filter activated> to bhram gyan..........but as sikhs we must stay here to be real sikhs and listen to <banned word filter activated>....

By the way if youare under18 then sorry..and we are all one in the west including the somalians in the west london southall..praise mohammed as we are equal in the west...... soon to be sharia law......if you are over 18 get ur gloves on son....also when panjabi girls f bout wiv pakis dont get mad.. As itswestern ways......

Exactly lucky singh......please allow me toexagerrate.... A man with kesh/beard is a sikh just like a mona is a sikh. Fantastic merry xmas..lucky make sure you dont circumcise on eid as a blessing from westcelebration. Again cut your hair or go back to pujabanb and live with your morals there.. Which is pretty much the "west" view...not the 10 per cent propaganda news you watch making you belive you are one of them.....

No difference between the now xmas and the now diwali/bandi chor celebrations where its all about meat shrab and fireworks.. The funny thing is that "sikhs" will declare war for a non sikh claiming diwli/bandi chor being a about shraab an fireworks....but its ok to put tree of xmas for "fun"... For those sikhs whoput up the tree,do you tell your kids about jesus or that the xmas tree is the sargun form of akal because guru nanak wason holiday in december.

I agree with lucky singh... If she wants to be a paki them let her be because neither follow dharam and its all about bollywood lust...also saying that and away from the bollywood girls giving it up an this means sikh and muslim girls messing with sikh boys....... Saying this from my knowledge sikh guys just want to do bhog where as paki boys intentionally target sikh andhindu girls and now goriah for bhog an conversion......shame Sorry guys for using"sikh" please trade thatto panjabi boy who goes to the gurdwara every family wedding before flirting at the party hall...... For the person who said tell SA or lion singhs or whatever they called...y dont u get 10 mans together and see whats happning... Im one for organised sp which is still active but low in numbers......... Im sorry to say but many amritdhars claim to be superior and look down at moneh...but when it comes to physical situation from my experiace 75 per cent are moneh......... No one is better than the other we need ekta.....one day that moneh will take amrit..no doubt hes just on his/her journey..... Im sorry to offend ppl ....an sorry for the rant..jus saying how i see it....

I wish i could be there....fateh too all those blessed god minded souls having darshan and ishnaan.....

Fateh.. With the xmas tree make sure you have the turkey lunch with a glass of red..... Dont pick an choose... You saying xmas is about the xmas tree is like saying vaisakhi is like dhol and bhangra..for all. The ppl who gonna say dont compare vaisakhi with xmas etc im not and check your living room....even if goreh take the piss out of their own dharm dont jog along ppl... Jesus was a matry and one who personally i would not hesitata to do bhagti with...goreh that have an x mas tree an get pisssed are no different to those who get pissed at nagar kirtans... And yes it does happen at nagar kirtans...

Paaji, no mantar is stronger than the other it all depends on your avastha. Gurbani is sampooran. You can meditate on sukhmani manglacharan if you want or jaaap sahib, gobinde mukhande....or ay mantra that takes you from where you are to ananad..simran is a marothan not a sprint......we all know our own individual sehaj anand/yog just get in tune with your real self...try one week with mool mantra then try one week with vaheguru mantra......all the best...

Dhan dhan kalyug da malik...dhan guru nanak ji maharaji........you are akaal/nirankar the sargun sroop of the nirgun ekonkar, satnam,karta purkh nirbhau nirvair akaal moorat ajooni saihbang gurprasad.. japu.. adi sacho jugadi sacho hai bee sacho, nanak hosi bhe sacho...akaaaaallll