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Some historical facts of Guru Sahib Shaheed. Jahangir ordered arrest of Guru Sahib on 22 may 1606 Guru Sahib was arrested on 26th may 1606 and Guru Sahib was taken to the court of Jahangir. Where he ordered killing of Guru Sahib by "Yassa-o-Siyasat".

Babby

You are doing good job. Carry on.

Mughals killed so many innocent sikhs till mid of 18th century.

ਸਲੋਕ ਕਬੀਰ ॥ Salok Kabeer || ਗਗਨ ਦਮਾਮਾ ਬਾਜਿਓ ਪਰਿਓ ਨੀਸਾਨੈ ਘਾਉ ॥ Gagan Dhamaamaa Baajiou Pariou Neesaanai Ghaao || The battle-drum beats in the sky of the mind; aim is taken, and the wound is inflicted. ਖੇਤੁ ਜੁ ਮਾਂਡਿਓ ਸੂਰਮਾ ਅਬ ਜੂਝਨ ਕੋ ਦਾਉ ॥੧॥ Khaeth J Maanddiou Sooramaa Ab Joojhan Ko Dhaao ||1|| The spiritual warriors enter the field of battle; now is the time to fight! ||1|| ਸੂਰਾ ਸੋ ਪਹਿਚਾਨੀਐ ਜੁ ਲਰੈ ਦੀਨ ਕੇ ਹੇਤ ॥ Sooraa So Pehichaaneeai J Larai Dheen Kae Haeth || He alone is known as a spiritual hero, who fights in defense of religion. ਪੁਰਜਾ ਪੁਰਜਾ ਕਟਿ ਮਰੈ ਕਬਹੂ ਨ ਛਾਡੈ ਖੇਤੁ ॥੨॥੨॥ Purajaa Purajaa Katt Marai Kabehoo N Shhaaddai Khaeth ||2||2|| He may be cut apart, piece by piece, but he never leaves the field of battle. ||2||2|| Guru Arjan Sahib Prakash 15 April 1563 Shaheedi 30 May 1606. The impact of Guru Sahib's shaheedi and ways Mughal kingdom martyred Guru Sahib.

If you please quote gurbani which makes your point more clearer. Gurbani talks about manmukh and gurmukh. "The same can be said of students in bhagti marag. You will have the Agayani, Jagyasoo and Giani (Kanisht, Madham and Uttam)" if you give some reference from gurbani about these avastha it will make things clear.

All amrithdharis are khalsa and cannot be differentiated because of one being from specific jathebandi. Guru Granth Sahib is Guru and they should check their conduct according to Gurmat.

Sikh is a sikh and cannot be described/categorized in any type. That is the core message of the tuk. ਐ ਜੀ ਨਾ ਹਮ ਉਤਮ ਨੀਚ ਨ ਮਧਿਮ ਹਰਿ ਸਰਣਾਗਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਲੋਗ ॥ Read the whole shabad and understand it for yourself brother what it means. This topic is that Three types of student according to gurmat.

Why confuse, make it simple ਐ ਜੀ ਨਾ ਹਮ ਉਤਮ ਨੀਚ ਨ ਮਧਿਮ ਹਰਿ ਸਰਣਾਗਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਲੋਗ ॥ Ai Jee Naa Ham Outham Neech N Madhhim Har Saranaagath Har Kae Log || O Dear One, I am not high or low or in the middle. I am the Lord's slave, and I seek the Lord's Sanctuary.

Guru Nanak Sahib. ਗੂਜਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥ Goojaree Mehalaa 1 || ਐ ਜੀ ਨਾ ਹਮ ਉਤਮ ਨੀਚ ਨ ਮਧਿਮ ਹਰਿ ਸਰਣਾਗਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਲੋਗ ॥ Ai Jee Naa Ham Outham Neech N Madhhim Har Saranaagath Har Kae Log || O Dear One, I am not high or low or in the middle. I am the Lord's slave, and I seek the Lord's Sanctuary. ਨਾਮ ਰਤੇ ਕੇਵਲ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਸੋਗ ਬਿਜੋਗ ਬਿਸਰਜਿਤ ਰੋਗ ॥੧॥ Naam Rathae Kaeval Bairaagee Sog Bijog Bisarajith Rog ||1|| Imbued with the Naam, the Name of the Lord, I am detached from the world; I have forgotten sorrow, separation and disease. ||1|| ਭਾਈ ਰੇ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਤੇ ਭਗਤਿ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਕੀ ॥ Bhaaee Rae Gur Kirapaa Thae Bhagath Thaakur Kee || O Siblings of Destiny, by Guru's Grace, I perform devotional worship to my Lord and Master. ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਵਾਕਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਿਰਮਲੁ ਨਾ ਜਮ ਕਾਣਿ ਨ ਜਮ ਕੀ ਬਾਕੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Sathigur Vaak Hiradhai Har Niramal Naa Jam Kaan N Jam Kee Baakee ||1|| Rehaao || One whose heart is filled with the Hymns of the True Guru, obtains the Pure Lord. He is not under the power of the Messenger of Death, nor does he owe Death anything. || ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਰਸਨ ਰਵਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸੰਗੇ ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਸਹਜਿ ਹਰੀ ॥ Har Gun Rasan Ravehi Prabh Sangae Jo This Bhaavai Sehaj Haree || He chants the Glorious Praises of the Lord with his tongue, and abides with God; he does whatever pleases the Lord. ਬਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ ਬ੍ਰਿਥਾ ਜਗਿ ਜੀਵਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਿਹਫਲ ਮੇਕ ਘਰੀ ॥੨॥ Bin Har Naam Brithhaa Jag Jeevan Har Bin Nihafal Maek Gharee ||2|| Without the Lord's Name, life passes in vain in the world, and every moment is useless. ||2|| 22637 ਗੂਜਰੀ ਅਸਟ (ਮ: ੧) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੦੫ ਪੰ. ੨ Raag Goojree Guru Nanak Dev

Dukh is not powerful then sukh. But a human being is weak which allows sukh and dukh to take over him/herself. Dukh is not the thing we people pray or want to have in our life. In mool mantar term Akal murat means one who does not come under influence of time. Dukh and sukh are phenomena of time we need to take them same. If you read History of Our Guru's you will see they have faced so many hardship in their lives and message they gave ਜੇ ਸੁਖੁ ਦੇਹਿ ਤ ਤੁਝਹਿ ਅਰਾਧੀ ਦੁਖਿ ਭੀ ਤੁਝੈ ਧਿਆਈ ॥੨॥ Jae Sukh Dhaehi Th Thujhehi Araadhhee Dhukh Bhee Thujhai Dhhiaaee ||2|| If You will bless me with happiness, then I will worship and adore You. Even in pain, I will meditate on You. ||2|| ਜੇ ਭੁਖ ਦੇਹਿ ਤ ਇਤ ਹੀ ਰਾਜਾ ਦੁਖ ਵਿਚਿ ਸੂਖ ਮਨਾਈ ॥੩॥ Jae Bhukh Dhaehi Th Eith Hee Raajaa Dhukh Vich Sookh Manaaee ||3|| Even if You give me hunger, I will still feel satisfied; I am joyful, even in the midst of sorrow. ||3||

Bhagat Beni ji explains ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ Ik Oankaar Sathigur Prasaadh || ਰੇ ਨਰ ਗਰਭ ਕੁੰਡਲ ਜਬ ਆਛਤ ਉਰਧ ਧਿਆਨ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗਾ ॥ Rae Nar Garabh Kunddal Jab Aashhath Ouradhh Dhhiaan Liv Laagaa || O man, when you were coiled in the cradle of the womb, upside-down, you were absorbed in meditation. ਮਿਰਤਕ ਪਿੰਡਿ ਪਦ ਮਦ ਨਾ ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਏਕੁ ਅਗਿਆਨ ਸੁ ਨਾਗਾ ॥ Mirathak Pindd Padh Madh Naa Ahinis Eaek Agiaan S Naagaa || You took no pride in your perishable body; night and day were all the same to you-you lived unknowing, in the silence of the void. ਤੇ ਦਿਨ ਸੰਮਲੁ ਕਸਟ ਮਹਾ ਦੁਖ ਅਬ ਚਿਤੁ ਅਧਿਕ ਪਸਾਰਿਆ ॥ Thae Dhin Sanmal Kasatt Mehaa Dhukh Ab Chith Adhhik Pasaariaa || Remember the terrible pain and suffering of those days, now that you have spread out the net of your consciousness far and wide. ਗਰਭ ਛੋਡਿ ਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਮੰਡਲ ਆਇਆ ਤਉ ਨਰਹਰਿ ਮਨਹੁ ਬਿਸਾਰਿਆ ॥੧॥ Garabh Shhodd Mrith Manddal Aaeiaa Tho Narehar Manahu Bisaariaa ||1|| Leaving the womb, you entered this mortal world; you have forgotten the Lord from your mind. ||1|| ਫਿਰਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਵਹਿਗਾ ਮੂੜਿਆ ਤੂੰ ਕਵਨ ਕੁਮਤਿ ਭ੍ਰਮਿ ਲਾਗਾ ॥ Fir Pashhuthaavehigaa Moorriaa Thoon Kavan Kumath Bhram Laagaa || Later, you will regret and repent-you fool! Why are you engrossed in evil-mindedness and skepticism? ਚੇਤਿ ਰਾਮੁ ਨਾਹੀ ਜਮ ਪੁਰਿ ਜਾਹਿਗਾ ਜਨੁ ਬਿਚਰੈ ਅਨਰਾਧਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Chaeth Raam Naahee Jam Pur Jaahigaa Jan Bicharai Anaraadhhaa ||1|| Rehaao || Think of the Lord, or else you shall be led to the City of Death. Why are you wandering around, out of control? ||1||Pause|| ਬਾਲ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਚਿੰਦ ਰਸ ਲਾਗਾ ਖਿਨੁ ਖਿਨੁ ਮੋਹਿ ਬਿਆਪੈ ॥ Baal Binodh Chindh Ras Laagaa Khin Khin Mohi Biaapai || You play like a child, craving sweets; moment by moment, you become more entangled in emotional attachment. ਰਸੁ ਮਿਸੁ ਮੇਧੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਬਿਖੁ ਚਾਖੀ ਤਉ ਪੰਚ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਸੰਤਾਪੈ ॥ Ras Mis Maedhh Anmrith Bikh Chaakhee Tho Panch Pragatt Santhaapai || Tasting good and bad, you eat nectar and then poison, and then the five passions appear and torture you. ਜਪੁ ਤਪੁ ਸੰਜਮੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਸੁਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਮਤਿ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਅਰਾਧਿਆ ॥ Jap Thap Sanjam Shhodd Sukirath Math Raam Naam N Araadhhiaa || Abandoning meditation, penance and self-restraint, and the wisdom of good actions, you do not worship and adore the Lord's Name. ਉਛਲਿਆ ਕਾਮੁ ਕਾਲ ਮਤਿ ਲਾਗੀ ਤਉ ਆਨਿ ਸਕਤਿ ਗਲਿ ਬਾਂਧਿਆ ॥੨॥ Oushhaliaa Kaam Kaal Math Laagee Tho Aan Sakath Gal Baandhhiaa ||2|| You are overflowing with sexual desire, and your intellect is stained with darkness; you are held in the grip of Shakti's power. ||2|| ਤਰੁਣ ਤੇਜੁ ਪਰ ਤ੍ਰਿਅ ਮੁਖੁ ਜੋਹਹਿ ਸਰੁ ਅਪਸਰੁ ਨ ਪਛਾਣਿਆ ॥ Tharun Thaej Par Thria Mukh Johehi Sar Apasar N Pashhaaniaa || In the heat of youthful passion, you look with desire upon the faces of other men's wives; you do not distinguish between good and evil. ਉਨਮਤ ਕਾਮਿ ਮਹਾ ਬਿਖੁ ਭੂਲੈ ਪਾਪੁ ਪੁੰਨੁ ਨ ਪਛਾਨਿਆ ॥ Ounamath Kaam Mehaa Bikh Bhoolai Paap Punn N Pashhaaniaa || Drunk with sexual desire and other great sins, you go astray, and do not distinguish between vice and virtue. ਸੁਤ ਸੰਪਤਿ ਦੇਖਿ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਗਰਬਿਆ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਤੇ ਖੋਇਆ ॥ Suth Sanpath Dhaekh Eihu Man Garabiaa Raam Ridhai Thae Khoeiaa || Gazing upon your children and your property, your mind is proud and arrogant; you cast out the Lord from your heart. ਅਵਰ ਮਰਤ ਮਾਇਆ ਮਨੁ ਤੋਲੇ ਤਉ ਭਗ ਮੁਖਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਵਿਗੋਇਆ ॥੩॥ Avar Marath Maaeiaa Man Tholae Tho Bhag Mukh Janam Vigoeiaa ||3|| When others die, you measure your own wealth in your mind; you waste your life in the pleasures of the mouth and sexual organs. ||3|| ਪੁੰਡਰ ਕੇਸ ਕੁਸਮ ਤੇ ਧਉਲੇ ਸਪਤ ਪਾਤਾਲ ਕੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ Punddar Kaes Kusam Thae Dhhoulae Sapath Paathaal Kee Baanee || Your hair is whiter than the jasmine flower, and your voice has grown feeble, as if it comes from the seventh underworld. ਲੋਚਨ ਸ੍ਰਮਹਿ ਬੁਧਿ ਬਲ ਨਾਠੀ ਤਾ ਕਾਮੁ ਪਵਸਿ ਮਾਧਾਣੀ ॥ Lochan Sramehi Budhh Bal Naathee Thaa Kaam Pavas Maadhhaanee || Your eyes water, and your intellect and strength have left you; but still, your sexual desire churns and drives you on. ਤਾ ਤੇ ਬਿਖੈ ਭਈ ਮਤਿ ਪਾਵਸਿ ਕਾਇਆ ਕਮਲੁ ਕੁਮਲਾਣਾ ॥ Thaa Thae Bikhai Bhee Math Paavas Kaaeiaa Kamal Kumalaanaa || And so, your intellect has dried up through corruption, and the lotus flower of your body has wilted and withered. ਅਵਗਤਿ ਬਾਣਿ ਛੋਡਿ ਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਮੰਡਲਿ ਤਉ ਪਾਛੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਣਾ ॥੪॥ Avagath Baan Shhodd Mrith Manddal Tho Paashhai Pashhuthaanaa ||4|| You have forsaken the Bani, the Word of the Immortal Lord, in this mortal world; in the end, you shall regret and repent. ||4|| ਨਿਕੁਟੀ ਦੇਹ ਦੇਖਿ ਧੁਨਿ ਉਪਜੈ ਮਾਨ ਕਰਤ ਨਹੀ ਬੂਝੈ ॥ Nikuttee Dhaeh Dhaekh Dhhun Oupajai Maan Karath Nehee Boojhai || Gazing upon the tiny bodies of your children, love has welled up within your heart; you are proud of them, but you do not understand. ਲਾਲਚੁ ਕਰੈ ਜੀਵਨ ਪਦ ਕਾਰਨ ਲੋਚਨ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਸੂਝੈ ॥ Laalach Karai Jeevan Padh Kaaran Lochan Kashhoo N Soojhai || You long for the dignity of a long life, but your eyes can no longer see anything. ਥਾਕਾ ਤੇਜੁ ਉਡਿਆ ਮਨੁ ਪੰਖੀ ਘਰਿ ਆਂਗਨਿ ਨ ਸੁਖਾਈ ॥ Thhaakaa Thaej Ouddiaa Man Pankhee Ghar Aaangan N Sukhaaee || Your light has gone out, and the bird of your mind has flown away; you are no longer welcome in your own home and courtyard. ਬੇਣੀ ਕਹੈ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਰੇ ਭਗਤਹੁ ਮਰਨ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਕਿਨਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੫॥ Baenee Kehai Sunahu Rae Bhagathahu Maran Mukath Kin Paaee ||5|| Says Baynee, listen, O devotee: who has ever attained liberation after such a death? ||5||

We can laugh without any missionary bashing in this issue. :biggrin2:

Yest its talks more. Some people kept hair and some did not but Guru Gobind Singh Sahib made it mandatory to keep hair. Every shabad that is in Guru Granth Sahib is address to every sikh, you know this much better then me.

Sabat surat dastaar sira

Shabad of Pehare in Guru Granth Sahib explains. This shabad is also good to understand. ਮਃ ੧ ॥ Ma 1 || ਪਹਿਲੈ ਪਿਆਰਿ ਲਗਾ ਥਣ ਦੁਧਿ ॥ Pehilai Piaar Lagaa Thhan Dhudhh || First, the baby loves mother's milk; ਦੂਜੈ ਮਾਇ ਬਾਪ ਕੀ ਸੁਧਿ ॥ Dhoojai Maae Baap Kee Sudhh || Second, he learns of his mother and father; ਤੀਜੈ ਭਯਾ ਭਾਭੀ ਬੇਬ ॥ Theejai Bhayaa Bhaabhee Baeb || Third, his brothers, sisters-in-law and sisters; ਚਉਥੈ ਪਿਆਰਿ ਉਪੰਨੀ ਖੇਡ ॥ Chouthhai Piaar Oupannee Khaedd || Fourth, the love of play awakens. ਪੰਜਵੈ ਖਾਣ ਪੀਅਣ ਕੀ ਧਾਤੁ ॥ Panjavai Khaan Peean Kee Dhhaath || Fifth, he runs after food and drink; ਛਿਵੈ ਕਾਮੁ ਨ ਪੁਛੈ ਜਾਤਿ ॥ Shhivai Kaam N Pushhai Jaath || Sixth, in his sexual desire, he does not respect social customs. ਸਤਵੈ ਸੰਜਿ ਕੀਆ ਘਰ ਵਾਸੁ ॥ Sathavai Sanj Keeaa Ghar Vaas || Seventh, he gathers wealth and dwells in his house; ਅਠਵੈ ਕ੍ਰੋਧੁ ਹੋਆ ਤਨ ਨਾਸੁ ॥ Athavai Krodhh Hoaa Than Naas || Eighth, he becomes angry, and his body is consumed. ਨਾਵੈ ਧਉਲੇ ਉਭੇ ਸਾਹ ॥ Naavai Dhhoulae Oubhae Saah || Ninth, he turns grey, and his breathing becomes labored; ਦਸਵੈ ਦਧਾ ਹੋਆ ਸੁਆਹ ॥ Dhasavai Dhadhhaa Hoaa Suaah || Tenth, he is cremated, and turns to ashes. ਗਏ ਸਿਗੀਤ ਪੁਕਾਰੀ ਧਾਹ ॥ Geae Sigeeth Pukaaree Dhhaah || His companions send him off, crying out and lamenting. ਉਡਿਆ ਹੰਸੁ ਦਸਾਏ ਰਾਹ ॥ Ouddiaa Hans Dhasaaeae Raah || उडिआ हंसु दसाए राह ॥ The swan of the soul takes flight, and asks which way to go. ਆਇਆ ਗਇਆ ਮੁਇਆ ਨਾਉ ॥ Aaeiaa Gaeiaa Mueiaa Naao || आइआ गइआ मुइआ नाउ ॥ He came and he went, and now, even his name has died. ਪਿਛੈ ਪਤਲਿ ਸਦਿਹੁ ਕਾਵ ॥ Pishhai Pathal Sadhihu Kaav || After he left, food was offered on leaves, and the birds were called to come and eat. ਨਾਨਕ ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਧੁ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥ Naanak Manamukh Andhh Piaar || नानक मनमुखि अंधु पिआरु ॥ O Nanak, the self-willed manmukhs love the darkness. ਬਾਝੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਡੁਬਾ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ॥੨॥ Baajh Guroo Ddubaa Sansaar ||2|| बाझु गुरू डुबा संसारु ॥२॥ Without the Guru, the world is drowning. ||2||

Sarabjeet was not an agent claimed by pakistan. He was innocent man.

Bhai Mardana was not sikh, I always thought him as sikh.

Sajjan thug became sikh of Guru Nanak Sahib. Sri Chand turned back to sikhism. You say physical rotation and I say he taught the people of mecca sikhi.

When he crossed border might be there was no fencing that time. May be.

I am passing remarks on your theory of miracle not Guru Sahib. Guru Sahib taught us to live in his will/hukum Dukh bukh sad maar eh bhi daat teri dataar. Read the sacrifices of Guru's and sikhs. Atrocities they went through, but stood to the teaching of sikhism.

I know what I wrote and still say same thing about Prithichad and Dhirmal.

You are crossing your limit.

You have your view, but the fact is people do inter faith marriages in Gurdwara and people of other religions also perform anand karaj.