BhForce
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Well they'll have to, otherwise we'll die as a panth. (And I'm not saying going the way of Westerners is any better. They don't have MIL problems because they don't live with them. But they have other problems. They don't get married. If they do, they marry late. If they do, they only have 1 child. That, of course, means demographic oblivion and getting wiped out by the Muslims who have 4 kids at the very least.)
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Good point, and I acknowledge that. But, you should also consider that the older you get, your stamina decreases. Not just the ability to get an e----ction, but also in general. Doing work around the house without getting winded. Or even strong enough to pick her up and carry her. If you can't do that, she'll think you're a weakling. Or strong enough to protect her. (Remember SikhProf who got beat up walking around in Harlem with his wife? She must think he's a wimp now. I'd give a link, but it takes 2 weeks to approve posts with links.) So it's a kind of a balance. Enough status to be desired by a woman, but also not too wrinkly/weak that she gets daydreams about the gardener boy.
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Just ask Taksal which may be near you. If there isn't (you're in Mumbai, right?) just go to Hazur Sahib. There's a taksal there run by the Hazur Sahib Singhs.
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Guru Gobind Singh Jee's letter to raja of nahan
BhForce replied to shastarSingh's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
"Guru Gobind Singh Ji Penning Letter to Raja of Nahan requesting Opium" I have no idea what that's supposed to mean. The painting is just a generic painting which is supposed to be of Guru Gobind Singh ji sitting. There's no paper and no quill. There is no letter, in the manner that we have recensions of Guru Granth Sahib ji and Dasam Granth Sahib and hukumnamas by Guru Sahib. Do you have the letter? The lines quoted are not lines writted by Guru Sahib. They are rhyming lines from a granth written by somebody else describing what he says Guru Sahib must have said, not the actual words. All of that said, I will admit that before the advent of modern medicine and drug techniques, opium was used as a pain reliever. Morphine is the main alkaloid of opium, and is now administered in precise doses to alleviate pain. If it was used in such a manner in the Khalsa fauj, there is no problem. That is totally different, however, from your pathetic attempt to portray opium as a wonder drug that everyone should take! It reeks of what American doctors used to say in prescribing tobacco. And cocaine in Coca-Cola. -
Guru Gobind Singh Jee's letter to raja of nahan
BhForce replied to shastarSingh's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
Wow, really touchy about history books, aren't we? These are nothing more than compendiums of historical incidents. Epic compendiums, but in some cases, they may be wrong. It's not allowed for a Sikh to disagree with or disregard Gurbani. It is fully allowed for a Sikh to disregard episodes from these history books according to his buddhi. Do you acknowledge that? Get a clue. I think you must worship opium more than the Naam and Gurbani that we are told to worship. You should have led with this. Instead, you chose to just post "Guru Gobind Singh ji requested opium from the Raja of Nahan" without any kind of context. -
Really, bro? You want us to spend an hour and a half watching a random movie just on your say-so, and you couldn't be bothered to spend even a minute and a half writing why we should care? What the movie's about, why it's important, and what emotional impact it would have?
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Totally. And it's a partnership along with your parents (or in-laws), too. So if you're still in college and get married, you'll have children, which would be a problem, except since we're in a joint family, you as a woman can just let your in-laws take care of the kids while you complete your degree.
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Maybe. Also maybe, the kar seva babas get money when they have to raise crores of Rupees from the sangat to buy marble. But if they just leave old Gurdwaras as-is, they don't get any money.
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First of all, get in touch with sangat. Talk with older, devout SIkh women your mother's age. Tell them your predicament, and ask them to talk to your parents. Also ask them to find you a match at your same level of Sikhi.
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Seriously? Do the kar seva people have any sense whatsoever? Just demolish every old nishani, and put up a gleaming marble Gudwara on top of the ruins. Depressing.
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Some people do pronounce the small matras. It's not a debate that I want to get into right now, but people have different opinions on that. Taksal, for the most part, does pronounce these matras. It does (usually) mean singular. Just look at the places that there is an aunkad and where there isn't. That doesn't mean you're not supposed to pronounce it or not. That's a separate matter.
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Yeah, exactly what I was going to say. The shaheedi of the younger Sahibzaadas is special because they were just small children.
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This is shocking. And also completely unacceptable. It's a violation of trust. I'm so glad that this poor brother was able to get away and get help.
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Teacher looking to borrow/rent sikh religious artefacts
BhForce replied to TiaWALSH's topic in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
I'm sorry, but this is a bad idea. If you want to show students what certain Sikh articles of faith look like, just show pictures of them. An alternative might be to ask a Sikh organization to send a speaker with items to show, if they want to. -
Definitely. At the most, get your bachelor's degree. And get married. If, for whatever reason, you want to get a postgrad degree, get it after being married. Plenty of people do. Not being able to find a partner is no excuse. Start a few years before graduation.
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Definitely. Some of our brothers would probably say "Look, look, Bhai Gurdas ji mentioned the Vedas. Therefore, the Sikhs are supposed to accept the Vedas!" Actually, Bhai Gurdas ji mentioned the six Hindu systems of philosophy to differentiate Gurmat from them. They are nuanced differences, to be sure, because Bhai Gurdas ji was a sophisticated thinker, but they are differences, nonetheless.
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Why are we such softies? "For his generosity, the players asked him to join them for the meal." So, I guess the Sikh taxi driver joined the Pakistanis for a meal of halal. Great.
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Someone who is reading your post who hasn't read Bachittar Natak would think that maybe Guru Sahib mentioned Mohammend in a nice way. He is mentioned as a failure. I don't know what exactly you mean by "disrespect", but Guru ji clearly says that they don't follow anything from it. Do you do Chapaui? "Ram raheem puran quran, anek kahein mat ek na manyo." "Ram, Raheem, the Purans, the Quran; they say alot, but I don't accept anything from them." So? Arabic and Persian existed before Islam. Guru Sahib is allowed to use any langauge they want. Muslims don't own these languages. Did you also happen to read the lines where Gurbani refutes various aspects of the the Vedas and the Koran? To say that those books might have some true statements is different from saying that they are fully true and that we need to follow them.
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Agree. But late 20s? A lot of these people are still not married by their 30s!
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Then why not punish him via the law courts ? Depriving someone of their liberty (i.e., putting him in prison) takes an extraordinary level of proof. On the other hand, merely depriving someone of the chance to acquire new victims (preventing him from having access to Gurdwara sangat) takes a much lesser level of proof. The latter has been done. The former can be as well, later.
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If you view the NKJ video that shows up in the links at the end of this video, you'll see women are sitting smiling and very pleased at the NKJ fellow. This includes women wearing dastars and ramals! What's the point of making an outward show of religiosity if you have no shardha for Maharaj? 1. He says "It hurts to think what our IQ level must be to accept the things in the Suraj Prakash. Ask a kid how it rains, he'll tell you about the water cycle." So he's against the entire Suraj Prakash? Might has well just write off all of Sikh history. Why does he even bother talking about "Guru Granth Sahib ji"? The only place where it's mentioned that Guru Gobind Singh ji gave Guruship to Guru Granth Sahib is Suraj Prakash! (Or other history granths.) 2. He says the Gurbani line that says "It rains when Parmeshar makes it rain", "parmesher" means nature. You should know that they don't actually believe that God exists, only Nature. So why even bother with Gurdwaras? Just attend rationalists society meetings. 3. He says "Kids are telling parents not to send money to Punjab to do paath, we'll do it ourselves." OK, that's fine. But the method of this group is to say a few good things, and then telling people that Guru Sahib were not manifestations of God.
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What did I just watch? This guy is unhinged. He says (in the Gurdwara) of Guru Nanak ji "kidnap kar ditte honge". Huh? "Honge"? Might have been? You might as well say "NKJ govt da agent honge". This is all just totally baseless speculation. You don't have a right to just make up total lies and present them as what "really happened". He says "do you get mithai from shops or trees?" (disrespecting the miracles of Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj). For people who don't understand why he was banned, it wasn't for one statement. It was for a whole method that these people continue to use: Just make up totally lies. When caught in one lie, move on to the next one. They are shameless. They are free to live their lives, just not as preachers in Gurdwaras.
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When's the last time Badal has spoken to a UK gurdwara? Exactly.
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This isn't exactly rash, this is at the tail end of a whole lot of stuff that these people have been doing. I agree that it would be good to have had a discussion, but do you know for sure there wasn't one? Who's laughing at Sikhs? Because they decided they want to enforce a certain standard for speaking in Gurdwaras? People respect strength. Everybody thinks he's a hero until the moment he finds that his entire kaum (nation) doesn't want anything to do with him. This is an entirely non-violent action. It's not like we killed him, like the penalty would be in Islam. Every group has the right to determine who is able to speak or not speak in their facilities. If he decides he wants to stick to his fairy tales, he can do so. It's all up to him. Also, it's entirely wrong to be saying such things (that Guru Nanak ji was kidnapped and murdered) without ANY backing whatsoever as if he's sharing "the real truth".
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If that's the case (that older=wiser), why are his followers upset that older and wiser Sikh brothers are shutting down this 24 year old (the NKJ baba)? Wow.