LostSoul

OK we take two characters and make them fight each other when we decide who won we move on. First up...... Batman VS. Spiderman *Ding Ding*

The Chicago White Sox winning the world series, and now the Chicago bears on their way to the Super Bowl, what a great year!

Question: Why do we as Sikhs celebrate New Years according to the Christian Calender?

Have the reception, charge for liquor, make a killing, and take that money for your honeymoon.

So hows OSAMA doing, ya fanatics?

HAHAHA wait wait wait I forgot about this post. So am I the only one who thinks making love to your wife/husband is ok? So according to you people Im sinning with my wife????????

That comic was funny

So we should hold back our mothers, sisters, and daughters, rather than knocking sense into the people who make a mad dash at the Guru, at the same time endagring each other?

They way the Palki is rushed is moronic. Thank God no one has been killed, Imagine a child in there, being trampled or even seperated from its family. People should act like Sikhs and allow each one to go first, touching Palki sahib does nothing more for you than you touching the Palki sahib, you can do that at your local Gurudwara if you have so much sharda. Also has anyone noticed how they dont allow women to carry the Palki sahib, and actyally physically nudge women who come to close to try and carry it! There are alot of things we need to wake up to and fix.

So according to you sex with your wife for pure phyiscal enjoyment is not allowed? 136070[/snapback] obviously not ***** . kaam is not going to help you in your sikhi 136074[/snapback] What? You made no sense.

When did the Shaeedhi topic come into sikhi? What is considered a Shaeedi act? And where in bani does it state a Shaaed goes straight to heaven?

Seriously though,Alcohol and Drugs also harm your body, those are mentioned against in Bani, colors are not that was my point.

depends on who you ask

Jains wear white, Buddhists wear Kesri, lets take those colors out to then.

Very lofty ideas easily said but hard to folllow through on. Maybe you could read my previous post and answer those Brother? "The healthcare, welfare and employment inusrance will be just like canada - and that'd mean fat taxes and i dont support sparing farmers from taxes - thats a business too afterall." So we tax the poor? Sit down and think if you were that same farmer and you were feeding your family fine, and then comes this new regime with high taxes, would you sit there and take it or...could it lead to a revolt? "Friendly relations with neighbouring countries to minimize defense spending." You mean India? Pakistan would be there, but as the article had suggested some of our eager brother might put claim to East Punjab as well. I highly doubt that Pakistan wants to acieve Khalistan because they truely like us, they have their own motives. "all cops will address people with sir/madam." Thats how its supposed to be here, whats a Cops motto "TO SERVE AND PROTECT" but as we all know power corrupts people, that politefullness is wishful thinking. "The govt will have pro - outsoucing policies to attract call centers, software development centers etc." Alot of countries do, but I hardly think that major corporations will invest into a newly independent nation, the market would be to volatile for them. Also along with the outsourcing will come the dreaded Western influence! "Every graduate in any discipline will have to have understand guru granth sahib word by word to earn his degree." Why? What about the non Sikhs? What if a student wants to focus on his major and rather not study bani?

Can you fill us in then brother? Shouldnt rehit maryada have its reasoning supported by Guru Granth Sahib Ji, since that is the ONLY bani we look to as being our eternal Shabad Guru. Are we so eager to fight within the quam that COLORS is the thing we have stooped down to fighting. We cant wear colors that GOD created? So are we saying that Red or Green or whatever is a BAD color? Did God make a mistake in creating them?

hey poopie-head! 140707[/snapback] You bringing my chromed out shot glass?

The question of what will happen to our people after Independence is a legitimate question. What would you have Brother, to lead our people to poverty and famine? Do you not think if the demand for Khalistan is strong the demand for a structured plan for after seperation should also be on the drawing table? Many people lost loved ones, another movement will make more mothers cry. You call for Khalistan and if a farmer in Punjab asks you "what will happen to me and my family if you win the war?" What would be your response? Tell them dont worry? What answers will you give to the millions of people there? They need reassurance, I need reassurance, I need to know that this movement has intelligent people involved with it, to make sure our family interests are secure. We can always come back to our homes abroad but there are millions who will feel the effect of it full force. If you find the thread stupid you dont need to post a comment Veer Ji, Peace be with you! GurFateh

"It was an example to show that companies do do business outside of Punjab. It is not like we will be shipping out t-shirts only." They can do business because they have ships to transport them to other countries. Which seaport will these manufacturing plants use when we become landlocked? "I know but still surviving. The question for us is of survival. Do you expect Khalistan to become a first world country right after independence? It takes time to build the economy. All economic policies are considered after the country becomes free. Laws change over time so what we consider now may not be applicable after 10 years. New methods are always invented and new solutions are sought." Barely surviving off of international aid, and still their masses go hungry and die. It shouldnt be a matter of just "getting by". We should have a full scope of vision if we are to get this nation, not think short term. "I gave an answer to mehtab Singh. There will be some restrcitions. A country is never perfect for everyone. Some may like it some may not." Actually that response was for me, if you scroll down and check the post you'll see. I had asked why in your article you will kick out anybody who smokes, and drinks. In your line of thinking we will have another huge wave of refugess, and more lives put through turmoil. "1961 census says otherwise. Hindus have abandoned Punjabi.Pakistani Punjab - I have already given an answer and clearly stated that attacking is not the way. War - India cannot drop nuclear missils on Punjab. Only weapons do not make you victorious but help you become victorious and that is only if you know how to fight and if you are willing to die and sacrifice. History shows us that." Actually no, Hindus form a strong majority of Punjabs population, they number in they millions. If a few decided to list Hindi as their mother language that doesnt mean all have, or even if they did does that make it right to take their land away from them simply for that reason? Doesnt sound like the Khalsas way. As for your stance on Pakistan actually you have not given a definitive answer, your article sugggests that we attack them, and claim East Punjab as well, I suppose we agree that Islamabad is in Punjab now?. Not necessarily nuclear weapong but non nuclear missiles could be dropped and insurgents now from a safe distance. I didnt get a response to my questions posted, my post was ignored, Im interested in your response veer ji.

No those are for the belly dancer

DUH re read my post, Im the niggAH who starts the party!!!!

Woah WOah WOah Slow your role jabronis...the party wont start until I hit it up

^ Why what?

"According to a survey taken about 4 years ago India ranked 97 out of hundred. 100 was the worst. Kuwait has only oil but not a single drop of water. India on the other hand has almost no oil. So not every country has to have everything in order to survive." Could you post that survey?(defintion of a survey;A gathering of a sample of data or opinions considered to be representative of a whole. We shouldnt use opinions only factual based items)India has grown by leaps and bounds in the past four years, we should use current events. Kuwait has so much money they can afford to purify the sea water, or just import it, and they have alot of underground well's, lol they have more than a drop of water. " One time I went to Mervyns and picked up a t-shirt that was made in India and it cost about $40. Guess what? These t-shirts came from Punjab and the guy who ships ‘em out gets $3 a piece. Indonesia is a third world country but Nike costs $15 a pair. Countries may start out poor but with better educated leaders and with the help of people anything is possible" These companies are individually owned, profits dont go to the Government, T-shirts cant be the basis of our economy. "Army is needed for sure but that doesn’t prove anything. Every Sikh is a saint soldier. There are about 600,000 retired generals in Punjab who can give training." I think 600,000 retired GENERALS is a bloated number, the army doesnt have even a 100,000 Generals, and as Mehtab Singh said, whose to say that they would even support us? Theyre living off of Government pensions, and Government given land. How many young men would go off to fight for an under funded army, when theyre families are already poor? "Explain more? Pipelines for what purpose?" Oil Pipelines "The above 18 countries are landlocked and yet surviving. The question is of survival. If these countries can survive then so can we. Just look at them and tell me how many are first world countries? We may not have any control over sea ports but if you know how to do business you can negotiate and use sea ports" Majority of those listed are very poor countries. Negotiate with who for control of sea ports? India? "Clearly you do not know anything about Sikh politics. Did Guru Gobind Singh Ji not have morals? Did other gursikhs not have moral? Do you really believe that there is not a single politician in the world who has no moral character whatsoever? You really need to put some rational thoughts in your comments" I thought I was rational here, no need to say that. I dont think our Guru was a Politician, or do you think otherwise? I can just take a look at all the politicians now, from the Gurudwaras to the ones in India, and I can honestly say, no I havent seen one who power hasnt corrupted. "Never implied anywhere in the article" And I quote your article again brother..."people who commit adultery, smoke, drink alcohol etc. will not be allowed to live there"...I suggest you use my whole quotes instead of partial ones. "Show me where in Quran it is written that Muslims are obligated to eat meat? Muslims mostly eat beef but look at what happens to those who kill cows in India. Is that religious freedom? Do muslims not eat vegetarian food in Pakistan? Again, does bible require Christians to drink wine?" As Mehtab Singh said Bakhra Eid, feast of meat. They are allowed to eat meat however will we force vegetarianism on them? Also yes Christians are allowed to drink wine/alcohol as well. They use wine during Sunday mass, for communion, i.e, the "blood" of Christ. "If people could live under rule of Sikhs in the past then surely they can do the same in the present. Our country will be based on Miri Piri." Raja Ranjit Singh actually was very open minded and allowed people to bask in religious freedom, therefore yes Muslims/Hindus were very happy. "Though East Punjab belongs to us but I do not think attacking and forceful take over is the right way. When people in Delhi asked Bhai Jassa Singh Ji to leave they left because Sikhs did not want to rule the area by force. But the Gurdwaras will certainly be ours. We can negotiate with Pakistani government and have control over our Gurdwaras and they can have control over their mosques. Pakistani government already helps us way more than GOI. Their capital is not in East Punjab." How does it belong to us? Every Punjabi is entitled to Punjab not Sikhs in specific, Punjabi Muslims outnumber us dramatically. You said in your article that, and I quote again..."Pakistani Punjab will be part of Khalistan as well because the whole Punjab belongs to Sikhs. Sikhs have beaten Pakistan twice already so there would be no problem defeating it one more time"...your suggesting an invasion of Pakistan as well there. Actally I think your mistaken again brother Bilja ISLAMABAD is the capital of Pakistan, and if we pull out a map we can clearly see that its right there in Punjab, I thought we would take your advice and think rationally! "No doubt weapons are necessary to fight the war but at the end weapons do not make you victorious." Actually they do, no matter how much heart we have a few bullets and guns wont stand against tanks and planes. Warfare has changed, from miles away with a touch of a button missiles are launched now. All these things need to be taken into consideration before launching such a great task, such as a birth of a nation, looking forward to your reply Brother :lol:

Actually the questions are related to the movement. How can the movement quit right after Independence? It needs to follow through to ensure the stability of the new nation. The movement will always need to continue for some reason or the other. My stance? My neutrailty may be swayed if I can see actual thought is being put fourth on not only achieving Khalistan, but maintaining it as well. "I rather starve to death in Khalistan than live a rich life in a foreign country." But along with you brother thousands of women and children might starve as well. What I meant when I asked if you still felt the same was, do you still hold all the same ideaologys? Such as invading Pakistan after achievement, and banning any non gurmukhs, I wrote the questions in my second post. "For me, kingdom of Baba Banda Singh and rule of Bhai Shabegh Singh Ji are more than perfect." They ruled the land more in a style of Kingdomship, which I hardly think will sway the masses today. I hope you do take some time to answer the questions, since Im genuinely asking out of curiosity for myself, my family, and my land. BTW what did you mean by waiting 6-7 months?