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Ranjeet01

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  1. 1 hour ago, proactive said:

    I think we don't even have to get involved so much, watch this video which is about when some Hindutvis protested against Muslay coming out of the Mosque every Friday shouting the slogan "Allah Hu Akbar", look at how our so called Panthic media and Panthic leadership went running to stand with the Muslims. What do we gain from this? These people will never support us if we face any issues and they stood with the Kashmiri paedophile last year and yet we bend over backwards for them. 

     

     

     

    The Panth can be a bunch of goody 2 shoes boy scouts. 

    They would do this for a glass of dudh and biskoot 

  2. 5 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

    @proactive @Kau89r8 @MisterrSingh

    no matter how much humdardi you show to these people, they will always be snakes. i think on this forum itself people predicted their revival in Punjab a few years ago when there were news about dumb liberal Sikhs building mosques in Punjab and stuff. Hun leh lo. Quality over quantity doesn't work in stupid good for nothing system like democracies. its all about numbers.

    Quantity brings a quality all of it's owm

  3. 12 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

    They have political backing. Just see how Sikhs are being made to be the evil ones in this case. Anything that destroys us will be allowed to flourish with full political backing. Himachal has laws againts outsider settlement but if we in Punjab do the same you will find these Hindus spreading venom against us saying Punjab is part of India, anyone can buy land there.

    Then we also need to build politically. But even politics stems from power and power brings leverage.

    What leverage do we have?

    Like proactive mentioned in another thread, the Sikh youth managed to twist the arms of the Himachal Pradesh govt.

    For all our faults, we have the canny ability to galvanise and organise.

    Hindus fear the threat of violence from Sikhs. We just have to be smarter with it.

    With mob violence you have to target the leaders like you do with bullies.

    You take out the ring leaders, the mob falls apart. 

    You don't have to use violence all the time, but if you make their head space feel fear, you get them to behave the way you want them to.

  4. 3 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

    And the way to combat any State blow-back (i.e. Police or the Journalist class who've been conditioned to defend Islam) is to immediately throw their partiality for Muslims in their face when they accuse you of the things they've allowed Muslims to get away with. Make it incessant and reveal their hypocrisy. Do that enough and in a concerted manner, and they will eventually realise they aren't dealing with clowns.

    The journalists do need to be taken to task. If the Ukraine has taught us anything it is that propaganda is a form of war.

  5. 2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

    I don't dispute the point that educated people can lack savvy, but again, if we look at the plethora of problems that our community have faced over the last 70 odd years, it looks like a complete lack of foresight in terms of economical development.   It's one thing to opportunistically jump into foreign lands for opportunities (which our lot do generally well) but it's another to develop a robust, interdependent economy in your own territory. Our lot are doing an exodus from Panjab due to failure of the latter. And right now, they look pretty clueless in this respect. That's where education can come in. If you expect an illiterate pendu to plan and develop a modern robust economical strategy, you must be insane. And which apnay parents don't want their children to be purhay likhay hoey these days. 

    And you seem to be stuck in some loop? Whenever I mention education, you keep going back to a western model, like that is the only option. It's not. We can develop our own models. It's exactly this type undersight that screws us over. We've got a culture of low expectations of leadership going on right now.  

    If you are part of a country called India that was run by educated elites and see the job that they did.

    It was not as if they were doing a great job.

    A lot of pre-partition Punjab was quite industrialised.

    Furthermore, I never mentioned anything about the western education model. Though education system teaches you how to follow instructions. 

    Education system deserves it's own thread.  I don't want to de-rail this one.

  6. 2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

    I think we need to get the focus off the sepoys and remember the genocide instead. There are important and pertinent lessons there. Promoting the former just increases the likelihood of generating a new crop of sepoys. We need to find alternative ways to train and arm our people (that's if the panth wants to go that way), and also exercise and teach a sovereign mindset instead of the usual docile, servile thing. I rather our people learn about the deadly consequences of  failing to focus on our own security than promote mercenary attitudes towards forming alliances with people who will leave you to die (without a blink) whenever you aren't useful to them, and I suspect just for the sake of it too (like a power move to keep people down).   

    I don't these guys that fought were docile. To fight a war and risk being killed is not being docile.

    And they made a conscious choice to fight, it was their choice. They were not servile.

    These are our grandfathers and great-grandfather's. They are part of our history. We cannot forget them.

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