jaspreet1

Where do i begin. Show me where the literary devices are used in the Gurbani i presented? ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਹਰਿ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੭॥੯॥ Break the line down and show me these literary devices in the above tuk. Next absolute statements are not subjective. Show me where the subjectivity is in the example I gave you and the Gurbani tuk. ​It will be sunny all day today. ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਹਰਿ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੭॥੯॥ Break it down for me here. Lastly, the singh in the video is speaking about God's form. We are speaking about Guru is God.

There are poems written on science. These poems on science are all factual. But why use poetic form to write science? Why write any message in poetic form? People with less knowledge would not take these poems written on science at face value. Simply because the facts are written in poetic form. With time i can see a lot more ignorance taking place. As many more people will call science false just because some writers have taken a poetic way to convey a message on science. Something written in poetic form does not make the whole statement just a metaphor with half truths in it. This is one of the biggest mistakes any person can make when reading Gurbani or science for that matter. Poetry can be used to express the truth as it is used in Gurbani and science. Poetic form delivers the message home a lot quicker and sticks in the mind a lot longer. In Gurbani poetic form is used to instill a true message in a person. Also absolute statement is a statement which cannot be wrong. Here is an example of an absolute statement: ​It will be sunny all day today. In this statement there is no uncertainty on how the weather will be today or room for interpretation. The interpretation of this absolute statement is simple as today it will be sunny all day. If a person like you came along and said, "I interpret this absolute statement to say that the writer was saying it will be partially sunny today." Then every person that understands absolute statements will know you disagree with the absolute statement. No one that understands absolute statements will say you interpret it differently because there is only one clear interpretation of such statements. Here is Gurbani in a absolute statement saying Guru is God: ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਹਰਿ ਸੋਇ ॥੪॥੭॥੯॥ गुरु नानकु नानकु हरि सोइ ॥४॥७॥९॥ Gur Nānak Nānak har so▫e. ||4||7||9|| Nanak is the Guru; Nanak is the Lord Himself. ||4||7||9|| ang 864

Are you from AKJ? Ram Singh nor Dhumma can be Jathedar. Both disobeyed orders.

dont make Bhai Sahib name into political war. Darshan ragi also visited bhai sahib. Many people visited bhai sahib from all backgrounds.

I agree Gurbachan Singh has no credibility and for that reason the Hukam on this matter has no credibility as well. The Hukam did not come from Sri Akal Takht Sahib, but Badal. Jathedar was also saying to Bhai Sahib that his hunger strike was against Gurmat. Badal again was pulling Sri Akal Takht Sahib representatives strings. Why didn`t the sangat say now Bhai Sahib has to stop his hunger strike as Sri Akal Takht Sahib representative has said it is not Gurmat? I support Bhai Sahib on whatever he chooses to do; continue or end the hunger strike. But the reasoning you have presented here is not sound and does not go with previous actions the sangat along with Bhai Sahib took to accomplish a goal. Bhai Sahib in this matter along with the sangat should completely ignore Sri Akal Takht Sahib representative (Jathedar). Among Gursikhs, Bhai Sahib should ask what the Punj Pyare want of him to do next. At these 5 Singhs direction, Bhai Sahib should put his trust and bow his head as he has been doing for over 40 days. Bhai Sahib has ignored Sri Akal Takht Sahib representative (Jathedar) for 40 days. Bhai Sahib has the heart and courage to show the Khalsa Panth when and when not to adhere to Sri Akal Takht Sahib Jathedar.

Sri Akal Takht Sahib is and will remain supreme authority. However this Hukam is signed by the puppet Jathedar that got Bhai Gurbakhish Singh ji treated like a rag doll by police officers who were drunk and thrown in jail. They entered in darbar in the presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji while drunk. If you want to say this Hukam was issued from Sri Akal Takht Sahib, then the Hukam to mistreat Bhai Sahib and do beadbi of Guru ji was also issued by Sri Akal Takht Sahib, but just not on paper. The Jathedar is misusing Sri Akal Takht Sahib. This Hukam telling Bhai Sahib to stop his hunger strike has not been issued by Sri Akal Takht Sahib. The Jathedar lost his right to issue any Hukams on behalf of Sri Akal Takht Sahib on this matter on the day he got Bhai Sahib thrown around like a rag doll.

If i present you with a line that directly says Guru is God from Gurbani, will you accept it?

Dhumma is a low life, down rotten person.

What I have made bold in the above shows lack of understand of absolute statements. Here is an example, if science says gravity is the force that holds everything in place. You have two choices either to agree with the statement as it is or disagree with it. You cannot change the translation to mean anything else because the statement is completely clear on what it is stating. It is an absolute statement. It did not state science says gravity is LIKE the force that holds everything in place. It says, "is". More than once Gurbani has said the Guru IS God. But all it would take is one of these lines in Gurbani to show any person that an absolute statement has been made and their is only two ways around it. Either reject it or accept what is being said completely. Being a Sikh, you cannot reject any of Gurbani.

For the record I know the law 10 times better than you and if I wanted to pursue legal action. I would have you paying court fees till your bank account is emptied out. Learn the law before you try to bluff and push your weight around here. One punk thought he knew the law better and he ran off with his tail between his legs. You will have cases against you in at least 2 different countries. You just admitted of harassing Singhs in a previous meeting with your cronies about couple of days ago. This is my honest opinion of you. You are an internet thug. This is a facts on you; you chases people from thread to thread and harass them by calling various defaming names. This site might not press charges and I won't because I am not that type of person. But someone can easily press charges against you and make your pay out of your pocket and put you in jail for your harassment and defamation. You have about 5000 post. It won't be hard to find JUST ONE POST that takes your tough guy act and crushes you legally for the person you are. If you were a Khalsa, you would meet face to face with the person you want to take to court before you summon them through court. The Khalsa (Sant Gurbachan Singh ji and his successors) you so claim to follow have taken the route of meeting the person before they take it to court. Are you willing to meet the countless people you have harassed on here? There is so much circumstantial evidence against you on this site, that it is bleeding right out of this site.

Administrator please close this discussion. This discussion is not going to take place where one person has no good intentions in mind.

These questions can be answered in a different thread and different time. This thread is about Satgur Parsad and Hukam. I can go back to all the post I discussed with you and ask you to answer all the unanswered questions by you. But I am not doing this because we are discussing the above subject in the title of this thread and I am acting in good faith. Good faith means to stay on task and not bring in other topics to avoid the discussion at hand. To be honest, i believe you are nervous and scared to discuss this topic. Again I give you the option to do this in private messages. In your next thread if you avoid to answer directly whether you want to discuss this topic. I will ask the mod to close the thread due to your lack of confidence in your ability. If you want to talk the talk, then be able to walk the walk.

Let me put it very clear. This discussion will be between you and me only on the topic of Hukam and Satgur Parsad. If other members post then you and I will ignore their post. Do you agree with this? This discussion will be done because of your intentional disrespect toward Satgur Parsad. Read many of your post on how you are confusing sangat purposely. This discussion will happen with one point being discussed at a time or a max of two points that are closely related. I know how you like to jumble everything up to confuse the sangat. Do you agree with all of this? I am telling you this beforehand so you don't think I am trapping you in some discussion. I want you to come in completely aware of what the intentions are here as I have nothing to hide. If you are going to post any reference, then in your own words it has to be explained why a reference from anywhere is being presented. I will do the same. Do you agree? Let me know when you are ready to have this discussion.

Brother I can post your private messages on here to me where you threatened me. Let`s all take a step back and reflect. Do you agree?

You want to discuss Dasam Bani. You don't have the heart to realize the truth hidden in Dasam Bani (Guru Gobind Singh ji`s Bani), especially what Dasam Bani says about vedic scriptures.

3HO are not the under represented or oppressed. Actually they have been caught bullying member of the Sikh community for taking photos of their rituals. Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji let spies sit in the sikh sangat and listen to diwans and see what the Khalsa is doing in it's diwans. Guru ji never bullied the spies or asked them to leave. Great Gursikhs like Sant Gurbachan SIngh ji let spies sit on diwans which he was part of. If 3HO are representing the truth. Then they should not bully people out of their diwans. Video evidence speaks louder than your hollow words. Evidence of making fake copyright requirements to restrict free speech has been done by 3HO on youtube. These are not the actions of the oppressed. Sant Jarnail Singh ji Khalsa openly spoke and showed what was going on in diwans he held. He did not make up fake copyright requirements. Sant ji was being oppressed for speaking the truth. 3HO are not being oppressed.

You do not follow the old traditions of Gurmat as taught by Sant Gurbachan Singh ji Khalsa. You use his name to gain a reputation to teach your vedic teachings. I have asked you in the past to have this discussion with me on Hukam, which will cover the Gurmat taught by Sant Gurbachan Singh ji. But as of yet you have not accepted my request. If you think your teachings are according to Gurmat, then don't avoid this opportunity to share your teachings. Let's have this discussion. Again i will give you the opportunity to have it in private message. Your ego won't be hurt there.

How many times have you heard n30 say that it is Waheguru's hukam and Waheguru approves of wrong actions committed by groups he supports as Satgur Parsad? Many times, if not take a look at the Nanskar discussion. Now instead of saying it is Waheguru's hukam that I am making JUST a joke. n30 goes off the the handles and gets all paranoid on me. Do you see the point now in what I did? It shows he is willing to put his integrity on the line to help family, but when the respect of Guru ji is taken away by a group. Then everyone should accept it and not call those who committed the act wrong.

You got the wrong guy. Seems like you have a lot of problems with others and are too paranoid. Thinking the people who you have issues with you are coming online and sharing jokes with you. First and only time i ever spoke to you is on this site and I very quickly found out you are a vedic scripture student and not a student of Gurbani. Maybe this tells you something that others who have no connection among each other are realizing the same about you over and over.

Brothers and sisters that have come out of the 3HO hallucination are not being labeled at all. They are being thanked for waking up and smelling the yogi tea for what it is. However the main players of 3HO know exactly their wrong doing, but they continue to propagate their false teachings as Sikhi. Then they threaten others when 3HO beliefs are challenged. I lost respect for the Chardikala Jatha when one of their jatha members tried to bully Gursant Singh. Blocking a another in with your car as a scare tactic. Are you kidding me, if he ever pulled that with soormas this Chardikala Jatha member would be dealt with appropriately.

Let me show you how it is done. How to make a joke with facts. You are just mad because your wife is part of the 3HO. You thought by marrying white you can become holy, but you went holy she is more vedic than me. lmao

Still not working for you!!! You need to squeeze a little harder when you do kriya yoga as your 3HO Kundalini yoga instructor has advised you. It's squeeze, release and then breath of fire followed up with a very tight squeeze. lmao I don't know how a man who calls himself to be educated would be tricked by people who can't even read Gurbani to squeeze his rectum repetitively and pay them a fee for this. I salute you sir for your wisdom. lmao

Discussing which Jathedar should be appointed now is like discussing what color of Bana Jathedar ji would wear on the first day of being appointed. In this current time even if you had a Jathedar who stood up to Badal, he would be eliminated in some fashion and a puppet Jathedar would be appointed once again. Imho. I believe its better to let know your relatives in india that it is time to elect another party and politically overthrow Badal. No more who will destroy Sikhi at a slower pace. Give the people of punjab to vote for a party that is actually looking out for their welfare.

Yes, because Gurbani shows us how to deal with anxiety. People that are shy will be able to face the fear of speaking in front of people without feeling they are being judged. Reading Gurbani takes the stress away. A person with anxiety focuses on how others will perceive him doing a certain act. Therefore the person cannot focus on how to complete the act, but what will happen as everyone will be looking and judging me. Gurbani takes the person's focus from the judging and turns it to the task at hand. Say you were to do a speech. Many people with anxiety will waste majority of the time worrying and very little time preparing for the speech. Gurbani changes the thought pattern of the person to actually practicing the speech and how to improve. Make reading Gurbani a regular routine in your life and you will notice the difference. Read and understand, you will see a lot of improvement.

Will this really help to appoint a new Jathedar that will stand up for the Khalsa Panth? Badal will get rid of Gurbachan Singh and then appoint another one of his puppets who will politically win over many Sikhs, but nothing will change. Badal strong hold on Sikh institutions is causing a problem in the Khalsa Panth. SGPC is the same position as Jathedar of Akal Takht. They are given commands by Badal when to act and when to sit down. This problem will not be solved by simply removing the Akal Takht Jathedar. A political movement to overthrow Badal from his dictatorship will release Sikh institutions. Creating a new political party and having it run in elections. In the past Bhai Gurdev Singh ji Kaunke was tortured and murdered when he was Jathedar of Akal Takht. A Gursikh like Bhai Gurdev Singh Kaunke needs political backing to stay as Jathedar of Akal Takht.