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I think you're right things are only going to get worse. To the stage that muslim youths will constantly clash with other british youths. It's basically gonna be a street war, with huge riots and people just smashin in muslims for no reason and visa versa.

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i picked 4 i don't think anyone on this forum is normal

I was jus wondering if anyone knew why we do a certain shabad or mool mantar 108 times. In other words why are there 108 beads on a mala?

these are supposed to be roman numerals. half of 11111 = 1V

yeah that's wot i mean tomorrow

Bhai Baljeet Singh (Bombay Wale) and jatha does very nice keertan saw them whilst they were in the west midlands. Definate reason to attend smagam. :TH:

the day after today?

bhaji is your eyes because they always see before you but can't see them?

a ball? :e:

:TH: Gud movie the topic needs as much media coverage as it can get. If anyone knows any directors we should try to get a full feature length film made about it i'm sure the sangat worldwide will happily help out finacially. It could be shown in cinemas everywhere. That would really help the cause. If the world started to question why the indian government has yet to begin an investigation they might have to do something. We all know it was an act of brutal facist behaviour that the government of india condoned. If everyone else did i think it would really help alot. It might help get things rollin jus an idea.

If you live in a rural area you may be able to find a local farmer who keeps cows in good conditions but only uses the milk fo his own purposes. These sort of farmers usually have plenty to spare and if you ask one as I have managed to do you can get fresh milk for cheap (20p per bottle) and it's more tasty than milk found in shops, richer and creamier hmmm.

I'm gonna stop talking about the meat thing but jus wanted to say I think it's a bit more important than omega 3 oils!

Which sant ranjit singh ji do you mean? Do you mean dhadrianwale?

Firstly on another topic you've called the vegetarians a minority that's not true and you know it, considering this is sikh forum. And you've asked admin to stop allowing us to condemn meat eaters as against sikhi. Well unforunately i think the reason they've yet to do that is because they also condemn meat eating as does sikhi and the majority of the sikh population. I've read the article that you posted and it says that the akhal thakt ruled that you can eat meat as long as it's jhatka. Are you trying to tell me that you bring the chicken home and kill youself humanely before eating it. You are misleading easily influenced youths to thinking it's fine to eat meat whenever and however they want. That's not even alright with the 'akal thakt' . And by the way most people disagree with their ruling on this topic hence the reason that most panj pyare say don't eat meant under any circumstances. Next your quote from Guru Nanak ji is simply saying that you shouldn't think you are superior just becasue you don't eat meat. Which I agree with and I don't think i any better than you, I do however pity your twisted intepretation of gurbani. Because lets face the facts there is no direct quote from gurbani that permits meat eating. As for the killing plants they don't have a soul i would have thought that was plainly obvious. Every innocent thing that you kill has a soul therefore has to kill you in another life before you can achieve salvation. so good luck with that one. :lol: And you say sikhism is a universal religion, I'm well aware of that and also the whole aim of sikhism to enable the common man to enable salvation and merge with our creator. The aim of the gurus was the make this accessible to everyone easily and promised us that it would be so if we followed a simple set of rules. Meat eating is a spiritual hindrance and slows progress (Due to reasons explained earlier) therefore is forbidden by sikhi. The only way to properly spirtually advance and eat meat involves hours of paat daily and certain shabads to erase the sins that you are commiting. So basically if your hoping to merge with the one universal creator waheguru your making life mighty hard for yourself. P.s I think deep down you know it's wrong to eat 'flesh' your just taking the easy road.

Randip singh how can you justify killing one of guruji's creations to simply quell your appetite. Each time you eat meat you have killed an inocent creature unnecessarily. Guruji has given us so many other things to eat there is no need to eat meat. So why do you do it? And there are endless quotes form gurbani that forbid the eating of 'flesh' . So how can you call yourself guruji's sikh if you cannot even follow his simple instructions. "Jo Sab main eak Khuda kahat ho, toa kayon murgi mare." If there is one God in all living beings, then why do you kill chickens. (Rag Prabhati, Kabir)