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veer ji great point , Datu assaults your Guru ji because of irka so do you support your Guru ji or say that Datu is his equal/better because Guru Amar Das ji showed him respect and apologized with nimrata ? Nobody worships Prithi Chand just because he was Guru Arjan Dev ji's older brother and Guru Ram Das ji's son too...why is that ? because despite being a son his conduct was not sikh like ...and that is the key those who acted like obedient sikhs they were drawn close , the disobedient distanced ...

bro , you may think going with a pro is going to solve your problem , it isn't, it will increase your conflict internally, because you will feel guilty about giving into your base instincts instead to respecting yourself . Why not let your first be someone you actually care for and want to remember ? why don't you have amrit , it has zero to do with your career ... is there ever going to be a perfect time ? life has no guarantees better to action your commitment to Guru ji than delay it . Do you think you want to get married ? BTW most blondes are bottle ones and they are just the same as other women... sorry to bust your bubble, I know why you fetishize them it's your viewing choices. p.s. with your online viewing habits you should realise it is a very damaging pastime.

so why do they go on honeymoon , take the money nobody's got a gun to anyone's head these days ...Usually it's the guys with major nakarey about the prospective girl ....been there , done that ....

yep it was the hindu jatts last year gangraping car passengers as part of their 'protest', and the number of abortion clinics in Haryana are just as many and the disportinate ratios of men to women is the same or worse. I think in this case us NRI sikhs should be tracking down this honeymoon grooms and shaming their families bigtime . Just like kudi marrs were treated , we should boycott their families/villages from consideration for ristey. If we are being serious about these Kaurs being our sisters .

I remember this story running don't know how successful they have been http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/09/a-german-ethics-committee-wants-to-legalise-incest-5288510/

More the reason to get sikhs into legislature and political spheres of each country. There's is zero reason to tolerate this behaviour or rape or anyone for that matter.

maa naal ticharan karna sadda kamm , te jhoothian kaana ....Then I must be with you there ...gotta move with the times ajj kal bacche are too soft because they haven't had that experience growing up so get bewildered like this lad when his mum comes up with utter BS like this . My MUm used to say to us don't let anyone do beadbhi of your dastar or kesh otherwise you'll have me to worry about as well , don't look at their size or strength just don't accept it EVER, give a good slap so they won't dare again. My Mum was a great motivator

what does our Guru ji say about the thought and the action - there is no difference ... besides the story is that those who look, feed the monstrous online culture of kiddie porn by actually creating a justification for the creation of those images , that abuse . They are raping/ abusing vicariously

mate they never get discovered that way , they don't see themselves as wrong so would never present themselves to doctors/police/authorities before the event. The whole mentality is devious and shadowy...

guaranteed chittaran di barish... pange na ley ...bechara chotta veer aggey dukhi aa. Seriously Chotte Veer ji , grow some .. Guru ji di beta bann ke , dushman nu vi jawaab dena pehga. Je Maa nahin samaj di tan ohnu sidda kehde Main Guru Gobind SIngh ji de betey di kurbanian bearrth nahin karana chounda , Main ohne di tan te Guru ji de beta bunn ke panth di sewa karna. p.s. ANYONE puts their hand to your dastaar or kesh , you give them a tight slap

While I am glad that our Bibian are organising to support abandoned wives , why is it only sikh wives who seem to be highlighted by this article when I'm sure it is happening throughout India especially in neighbouring Haryana too? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-39058436

these people are NOT mentally ill just evil they are powertripping ...on the thoughts of destroying a child . Why should society put them up in comfy digs with guaranteed food and tv ? The fact they are in prison is that they have been proven beyond reasonable doubt of such a crime . Guru Sahiban did not hesitate to advise their sikhs to give such people the punishment they deserve. C'mon a baby of two or three being attacked and left for dead , and the guy claims he's a headcase to ease his punishment it is not right.

the experts say that paedophiliacs are the highest recidivists of all crimes , they do not learn , they do not rehabilitate . No sane society should tolerate its organisation via internet/darkweb , or the blatant allowance of underage kids onto services despite the age limits being set to adult ... I say bring back the stocks as a punishment , these guys wouldn't dare to act on their warped thoughts , this is just an extension of the power tripping of rapists/sadists. I would say those who organise such goings on and do the trafficking are given a bottle of water and some days food and then get dropped in the centre of a desert with no other aid. If they make it out well done them else too bad .

1. I didn't mean ustat is bad , just it is NOT Gurbani so should not be be given similar darja to Gurbani which some may do and thus create the effect of validating praising of Sri Chand beyond what should be . 2. Please realise that the Udasis are now actually undermining their ancestors work because they have fallen into hindumat again from their original mandated sewa by Guru Sahiban by creating arguments to back up of the hinduising of the panth as illustrated by the sri chand idol worshippers ... My point is distorting history and images is the starting point where is the end ? Everyone praying to statues of the Gurus and Srichand and sitting in yoga poses and using mudras because GURBANI IS NOT ENOUGH?

bro Panj tell us when we have amrit not to have the jhoot/sang of a patit or nonsikh as they have not rejected the worldy divisions of jaat patt sexism etc to accept Guru Sahiban as their Guru ji . I think if Guru Pita ji said having 'knowledge' of a person of mohammedan faith make one muslim from the heart then same would apply with patitpan , but it is better to approach Panj than guess that one is OK given the serious nature of the transgression of the guilty party. It is not about being guilty of another's sin it's about reaffirming our commitment to Guru Maharaj ji , in your scenario the realiser would have to avoid their unrepentant partner if they have amrit again unilaterally however if they are able to both commit to amrit heart and mind then there is no obstacles going forward. If the unrepentant one refuses then there are two choices - have amrit and live as sister and brother wait in hukham and keep your own rehit as best you can, maybe Guru ji will do kirpa and change the heart of the other .

both of them will have to go pesh as a couple to have amrit again , obviously the party who was unaware would not be punished but the couple will be reminded of their duties to each other .

so you believe a woman should be stoned to death ? of course you being a man are viewed as an injured party ...that says so much about your views on women . That any kids belong to the guy and she cannot do anything about it. spending millions of years without chance of redemption is a unbelievebly harsh sentence . Sikhi frowns on infidelity because you are supposed to have a high character whether you are a man or woman, you are expected to be true and love your marraige partner and forsake all others . If you fail then you are no longer considered a sikh because you have broken your side of the promise to God . So you have the worst punishment possible rejection by Guru ji himself until you come back with full remorse, accept the punishment given by the Panj Piarey and retake amrit. If you are fornicating before marriage but them marry someone who is innocent of such behaviour you are guilty of cheating that person of their sikhi - they will have to go to pesh and you will have the black mark against you that you cheated a gursikh.

Bro 1. not disputing it is written in praise of Guru Nanak Dev ji but it is NOT gurbani so irrelevant to sikhs in terms of praying 2. The image given of Sri Chand is WRONG as we have proven in the other thread about Guru Sahiban depictions as there is the photo of seli topi of Sri Chand ji given to Baba Gurditta ji and now with descendents of Bibi Rup Kaur ji . He was not an ash wearing dhoti wale with jattan. He carried on the Bedi tradition of wearing seli topi so we can make an educated guess that he was keeping his kesh clean and tangle free as most udasi of sampardya are like now , wearing long robes of saffron colour. This current fashion of depicting him as ash-smeared yogi is to sell yoga in sikhi nothing more or less.

that's right , they also have name karan ceremony too ... maybe your family never revealed that fact but think about it to be married in anand Karaj is very different from the Hindu ceremony one binds you equally to Akal Purakh as your Husband lord the other diminishes the woman to daasi of her human pati , never afforded her own right to salvation oly told that she has to serve her husband in this life (and I guess the other six janams) before being born as a man to get chance at mukhti. Totally different scenarios

If non-sikhs become sikhs then have amrit they have to be remarried according to anand karaj to be correct in Sikhi

Ok so quoting Gobind Sadan pakandi guru who also happened to be Yogi Harbhajan's guru (not Guru Sahiban) is supposed to be some sort of proof ??? They are paid interference agents

genetically speaking sons are always taller than their fathers (studies indicate average of 5cm) , so being the grandson of Guru Har Gobind ji I would imagine him to be fairly tall and having seen his swords and arms that indicates it too. I would put everything Yogi Harbhajan in to the bin , he had total disrespect of Guru Sahiban and has openly said that Guru Pita ji didn't know what he was doing . The statement about Guru Pita ji's arms was lifted from those who have had partak darshan and sakhis . Mai Bhago was a six footer as well ...My Mother was telling me as she had kirpa of going to Nanded to do darshan . Dairy makes people tall -Dutch are major dairy eaters and they are the tallest country in Europe .

Guru ji went to battle as a youth thus his name from Tyag Mal to Teg Bahadur...but his true essence was to be tied to Akal Purakh's charan

he has said that it is all his kalpana , not copies ...he also does many many devi devtey , muslim calligraphy and mughal style portraits like shah Jahan , Aurangzeb

I believe in marriage and being a good partner if we want to have a good partner in return, it's not about winning in a selfish self-centred way but, supporting and sharing i.e. team win. Veer ji is trying hard to understand something that is beyond the average experience but there is always hope. I would suggest not saying to someone you need to see a shrink (instantly defensive) because it shuts down the trust and mutual respect. Perhaps ask her how she sees sex since she is compensation/medicating her stress that way, if something at work is triggering the crying jags ... is she looking to get pregnant ? so many possibilities it will take time to unravel , but I still stand by the idea she sees her GP and talks about her problems with the doctor he/she will know how to handle it. What is her profession ?