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    church ? no we don't sit on pews , have an altar , or have a priest as such synagouge ? no we do not keep a chair in the corner for a spirit to sit, we do not keep our granth in a cupboard , again no chairs to sit on, no women when 'unclean' temple? no we don't have carvings dedicated to a god or gods , ban women when 'unpure' MOsque? no we don't seat women in a seperate screened off section behind the men, or prevent women from speaking to congregation, or ban women during cycle Gurdwara? yes this is Waheguru's gate at which we beg humbly for naam daan
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    1. we remembered the names and faces of those who had become ghosts 2. we rippped away the platitudes and false promises of those in charge and saw how complicit they are in keeping our brothers in chains 3. we showed the news media is not to be trusted and how propaganda has been generated , so not to trust what we read without confirmations 4. we have realised that parchaar is what we need to do as that is the main thing that will defeat these people 5. everyone has now started to wake up to the fact that all is not rosy for them in their homeland there's more but I'm sure we can add to the list don't start doing what the sarkar wants which is 1.lose hope 2. lose interest 3. badmouth the true sikhs 4. turn your back on other sikhs
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    can not do that they have created a new one themselves where they are the superior khalsa above those of the brown kind ... personal friend had to take her kids out of miri piri academy india because of it she being of the brown kind
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    but they still hold on to the yogi's insertion of yoga into nitnem bani ucharan e.g bowing Jaap Sahib and teach such practices in their talks at espanola at their gurmat camps : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNnrZw5OH0
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    a lot I have met personally were standoffish in Desi Sikh company, meaning totally mixed generations and ages and if you do fateh they kind of seem at a loss...that seemed a bit off considering they were dastar wearing...but again it takes allsorts to fill the world
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    me too :biggrin2:
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    I am trying to keep to topic i.e. what they are doing which is not desirable in a sikh, what does not make them sikh . Sure you can do yoga , bhangra, gidda etc as you can play martial arts etc but that is not SIKHI related but is presented as necessary to know ... you want positives 1. they make dastars visible and more commonplace 2. they break cultural expectations i.e. sikhs are only indians 3. They have translated Guru ji's bani to spanish (quality of translation I'm not sure of maybe someone can elaborate) 4. They know how to tie a dastar properly and when they keep kesh they do it fully not trimmed beards etc like some desi guys 5. There is a high proportion who try to learn and perform kirtan comparitively to average sikh population 6. More likely to immerse fully into Sikhi if gets proper exposure 7. Like to promote themselves and the sikh lifestyle 8. Laid back and not testostrone driven mostly
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    veer ji yoga is seperate from sikhi , not as they pretend a precursor to doing bani properly,i.e. you have have your hands in certain mudras and the body has to be in certain positions as you recite bani for it to work . Their methodology is along the lines of a cult , sleep deprivation and food deprivation were common methods used to 'prove' committment to the 3Ho way of life. plus encouraging dancing along to kirtan is a simple NONO which they just love love love to tell their groupies to do , kesh khilarke ...just be free... the leaders were hand-picked by the great yogi for their 'skills' in making money by whatever means (including illegal) so if you look at that admiringly as being clever they can keep it ... Once Yogi ji kicked it , their true colours came forth and they fought for control of the whole shebang and some even abandoned their sikh image The biggest problem is when we try to think we know better than what our Khalsa ancestors did and thought we lose majorly , best way is the old way reconnect to true sikhi by following their example and not follow diluted ideas of namby pamby modern people. modern people are way too Soft we need to be hard as steel , true soldiers within and without .
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    Sikh Voice has wasted no time in condemning supporting Bhai sahib that the people who didn't support him were wiser , interesting to see the amount of high level police officers and dehli GPC members met with him just prior to his stopping ...my own feeling some threats to others were involved . http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/gurbaksh-singh-khalsa-ends-fast-returns-home/30422.html
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    I doubt seriously he has gone home , i mean he was having multiple organ failures ...and his words last night was I will complete my ardas whatever the sarkar does ... something more must have happened concerning the other singhs any news on them ?? I read this on FB http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/gurbaksh-singh-khalsa-ends-his-fast-115011501262_1.html it sounds too neat and tidy besides social media yesterday was full of bad-mouthing of Bhai Sahib Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale Sikh voice interviewed Singh who went through police blockade to Gurdwara to see him https://www.facebook.com/SikhVoice?fref=nf
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    they have created more bheki sikhs than any other faction of the panth , I mean they are in white head to toe , eat maas, do gidda bhangra as part of sikh culture , do yoga and bhut parasti as 'part of sikhi' sorry 'an improvement on what Khalsa is told to do(thus the famed superiority complex') , they teach these weird kundalini asans to do paat , tell them that they have to practice tantric techniques to improve their connection to their life partner, to call themselves khalsa whether or not they have had amrit...to do havans and hom arti of harbhajan yogi's picture everyday. This is what frustrates me about the plaudits given to that organisation , they are promoting a corruption of true sikhi in the western world and very few people will realise that . they are manipulating our image to make money for themselves which is not ploughed back into sikhi but siphoned off into a few individuals pockets while those who are at the lower levels of those organisations giving their all and then daswand to 3HO are getting disillusioned with what they perceived to be sikhi , and leave then start badmouthing sikhs in general.
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    3ho amrit ? huh look they do not follow Sikh rehat Maryada properly therefore they are not SIkhs as 1. they bow and worship other entities statues and picture of Harbhajan Yogi 2. They worship Sri Chand 3. they put yogic asans and rituals ahead of gurbani e.g. 'Bowing Jaap sahib' 4. they do homs and create birthcharts , to select wedding partners and auspicious days we Have SRM for a reason , and these guys do not fit its minimum agreed definition of sikh behaviour.
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    ???? I seem to have wandered into a soukh with challenges aplenty and rebukes , am I mistaken in thinking we are Sikhs talking about evils committed by a handful of individuals , not anything else like advertising for other individuals or faith attacking
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    Latest news ... Bhai Sahib Ranjit Singh ji is being restricted in parchaar and movements https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=775196375868015
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    problems is the bhagti part is in earlier part of quran has been hidden away from most people these days under the doctrine of 'abrogation' where the subsequent jihadist section is said to overrule the early chapters .
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    Naam Dhirr

    jkvlondon replied to anokhi9's topic in GUPT FORUM

    veera no tongue rolling involved I think you are confusing josh with what I said ... never mind jinna nam japia ohi jaanda
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    and perhaps to show enlightenment is not tied to any one house/school of thought, not one religion all it takes is prema bhagti
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    true I speak the lingo
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    Dhan Sheikh Farid ji di Maa jinna neh apna putt nu Akal Purakh di bhagti vich advice ditta te ohnu Sant avasta tak encourage kitta ... Jehkar Oh Sheikh Farid di bani Guru ji vich darj ha ta eh gal saaf sabut ha ke odi sochna mazhab de naa taun koh sau mile door ho geha si
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    it's definitely not the same ...whereas our faujis directed their attacks only on the targeted individuals no collateral deaths/injuries were acceptable these scummy jihadis go for maximum death and destruction the more the merrier ...it must be such a disappointment when they arrive in the netherworld rather than jannat, did they not read the commandments' thou shalt not kill'
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    Naam Dhirr

    jkvlondon replied to anokhi9's topic in GUPT FORUM

    this is what is being referred too definitely panj supposed to start naam dridhouna and check the abilakhee has technique down ...first time I had amrit we all did naam abihaas for a good hour after in sangat of panj and new sisters and brothers
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    when on earth did we use suicide bombs apart from helping Beant depart this realm ? and that was after over 25,000 peoples' deaths , killing is a different level to a pathetic cartoon surely
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    Now the Singh are being threatened by the police at this Gurdwara too...it is clear that they were given permission to stay at the Gurdwara but the Akalis have let their masters send in their dogs to bark at our Beloved Brothers. https://www.facebook.com/SikhVoice/photos/a.318452421542415.87730.318449181542739/774309789290007/?type=1&theater
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    really do you want to sink to the level or below of such people or do you actually want to shut them up ? if that had been in a failing rag such as Charlie I wouldn't have give them the benefit of my breath because the attention I would create will give oxygen to a dying patient ...I would happily wait out its demise, not creating a flap to incite the curiousity of others and increase the circulation of that same rabid opinion. Point is these 'brave' cartoonists/writers are anything but , they hide behind the company's letterhead . But if there was a person who was courageous enough to say the same to my face they would get a warning first , then if they repeated, final warning , then third a smack in the mouth.
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    do what we do best langar , sewa, care for our communities , that's means everyone not just desi peeps. a good deed earns more recognition than a leaflet drop
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