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Had that happened I'd fully support burning Nankana Sahib to the ground.<banned word filter activated> for Tat

But it is in Punjab language only script is changed (ShahMukhi).I want to have a pure Urdu translation like English translation of Guru Granth Sahib.

I'm interested in Sikhism and I want to know more about it.But my English and Punjabi is not so good.That's why I'm asking for Urdu version of Guru Granth Sahib.has it been translated in Urdu or not ? If it has been translated in Urdu then where can I buy this in Pakistan ?

Yes we think we got freedom because it is till better to live with Urdu and Pakistan than living under Hindu Raj and having Hindi as your country language.If Punjabi is not province language it is because vast majority of Punjabis don't want it and If a majority of Punjabi Muslims start a movement to have Punjab as province language than no mai ka laal can deny the rights of Punjabi language.So it's up to Punjabi Muslims to decide that.Just as Punjabi Hindu have abandoned Punjabi for the sake of Hindi.And I 100 % sure If Sikh have their religious scriptures in some other language ie hindi their attitude towards their maa boli would have no different thn that of Punjabi Hindus and Muslims.All your love for Punjabi is because of your religious affiliation. Why would we want to create another big enemy like China.We can hardly deal with India let alone China.Genghis Khan and Mongols tried to conquer the whole world not just Islamic lands.They came to conquer Islam but see the irony it was Islam which conquered them.Many notable Mongols converted to Islam and did their best to spread Islam in central Asia.One of them was Berke Khan who was grandson of Genghis Khan.Berke Khan converted to Islam and he even sided with Muslim Mamluks against Mongols at battle of Ain Jalaout.Mamluks gave thrashing defeat to Mongols and saved the rest of Muslim Lands. And many Sikhs think of Hindus/Indian army as their brother but the reality is that if Sikhs lifted a finger against Indian state they (Hindus/Indian army) could destroy the Sikh worse than Indira Gandhi ji destroyed Sikhs. It is the recent phenomena among Hindus who outwardly try to tell others that they are happy to Pakistan but inwardly they can't digest the fact that they had to lose 1/4 of their country just because of one man (Quaid).The term "Grapes are sour" can be applied to those people.And plz try to understand that If 25 % of Muslim would ever try to become majority.Would Hindu remain silent ? Hindu were almost 3 times more than Muslims.They can turn the table on us and do the same thing on us.They too can increase their population as well.They already had the advantage on us about 3 to 1. Arabs and Afghans raped Punjabi Muslims.This is not entirely true.I don't know or read anywhere that they raped Punjabi Muslims.But even if they did that does not mean that once a Punjabi Muslim is raped by an Arab then he accepted Islam.I mean it does not stand to logic that someone raped your mother and instead of killing him you adopt his religion.That's pure BS my dear.If a person of any religion raped my relative I would beat the <banned word filter activated> out of him rather than accepting his religion.That's a natural thing.Moreover that part of forced conversion is a bit exaggerated only a few Muslim rules like Aurngazeb ones adopted the method of forced conversion.Muslims ruled at least northern India for more than 500 years.In that period they could have at least made the Delhi 100 % Muslims.In 1947 it was just 30% Muslim.UP was 80% Hindu.If some Muslim rules forced people to accept to Islam that does not mean every single Muslim is forcefully converted.If every Muslim ruler has adopted this trend of forced conversion then they would not have been able to rule for a long period of 500 years.Just look at Aurangzeb he tried to force people to Islam and see what happened the mighty Mughal empire disintegrated withing years after his death.Although nominally it survived 150 years after the death of Aurangzeb.But it did not have control beyond the walls of lal qila.Hindus just can't digest the fact that 500 million of them are now Muslims who would have been Hindus otherwise that's why they exaggerate the forced conversions. How hypocritically they completely ignore the fact that Sufis did a great job in bringing these people to Islam (Now don't come up with the thing that they Sufi are not considered Muslims by so called mainstream.Just deobandis and Wahhabi don't respect them a majority of of Indian,Bangladesh and Pakistani Muslims respect them Brelvi Islam is the most popular form of Islam in Sub Continent and we brelvis are more than 50 % in Pak 25 % are Shia in Pakistan So a vast majority of people respect Sufis).By the way a Barlvi Muslims may be ok with a Hindu or Sikh but he hates Wahhabis.Coz most wahabis believe in the destruction of Mazar or Pirs.So Muslims are just as much divided as other groups.So there is no such thing is Islamic Pakistan. Yes Muslim empires also played a big rule to spread Islam by helping Muslim missionaries who did Dawah. Further more by converting to Islam the low caste Hindus have an opportunity to get better jobs and other advantages as Muslims were the rulers.You can't ignore the fact that why it is always Hindus who converted to their religions be it Islam or Sikhism or Buddhism.If Christianity can be spread by missionaries.Why can't Islam be spread by Dawah ?.You can see that Indonesia the largest Muslim country never conquered by any Muslim army.Malaysia and Brunei also converted by the preaching of Arab traders. And by the way everyone is in this world is a convert in some way.Even whole of Arabia was not Muslim at one point in the history.Turks were mostly followers of Shamanism.Iranians were Zoroastrians.And Vast majority of Indian Muslims were Hindus. To say that Muslims are converted by means of force is like saying every Hindu converted to Sikhism to save Hinduism by Mughals.This is what many Hindus say.banda ehna kolon puchay . Why they could not defended Hinduism while reaming Hindus? My caste/tribe is Barlas which is a sub caste/tribe of Mughals . We have 5 Pinds majority of Barlas Mughals.But our surrounding ares are dominated by Gujjars and Rajputs. I think million of Indians and Pakistanis would disagree with your statement that both nations are fascists and terrorist.Both nations are trying their best to preserve their identity don't how longer they will be able to hold their countries together. Pakistanis are pretty conservative for them Islam is the best.So there is no chance of Atheism at the moment.It will take some 100 years or more before religion will lose its importance in our country.By that time I think we would be able to invent some other ideology to keep the country one. And I'm agreed there are many atheists in our so called upper class.But instead of challenging religion they chose to remain silent.Even I have doubts about the existence of God but I still believe that only Islam can hold Pakistan together at the moment because almost every ethnic group in Pak have been Muslim for more than 1000 years while they have been Pakistanis for just 70 years so I think we need the religion for at least another 70 years.I firmly believe that every religion is man made but still I have strong feelings of belonging to Muslim Community.I think same can be the case with some Pakistani Atheists.Just as Indian writer Kushwant singh have doubts about the existence of God but he was still proud of his religion.Same is with me.I mentioned these details about me because I think you are taking me as some Katar "Musala".I just wanted to clear your misconception about me.

And more importantly I think you must have been aware why we Pakistanis are so desperate to see Khalistan.I think by helping Sikhs we would be able to avenge the humiliation of 1971.And most importantly It will secure of most of densely populated areas in Punjab.A big part of W Punjab (including Lahore as creation of Khalistan would also improve the security of Lahore where 1/10 of Punjab's population lives) won't have a common border with India. You know Cadets of Pakistan's military academy at Kakul are known to swear an oath that they will avenge the defeat of 1971. So you know why we support Khalistan movement we are doing this in a hope to take revenge of Pakistan's defeat.So If there is no Pakistan or it disintegrate then for us it does not matter If India is going to be in two pieces or 30.

Well I would be very happy if India collaps and Khalistan is created BUT not at the cost of Pakistan.We Punjabi Muslims have got freedom for the first time in our history.Most of the time we had been under the rule of various Muslim and non Muslim dynasties.We had been ruled by Afghan and Mughals and later on Sikhs.So you can see no Punjabi Muslim will ever support the disintegration of Pakistan. Frankly It is your mistake to assume that India won't collapse until Pakistan remains intact.Anti Pakistani sentiments are high only in Indian Punjab or Bihar or to some extent in Maharashtra.South Indians are not as much anti Pakistani as North Indians.Moreover I don't think an average man from North East or South India has ever heard of Pakistan or know where Pakistan is located on Map. So Pakistan is not a real threat to India.China is India's real threat.Even if Pakistan disintegrate Indian defence budget will continue to grow which they will have a better equipped and large army to suppress any freedom movement. Nehru was not happy at all he was agreed on the partition because he believed Pakistan won't survive and it will come back to India.He made this statement in 1958 or 1959 while giving interview to some western journalist I read this a year ago.You can search it. Muslims had no chance of becoming a majority as were barely 25 % and do you really think that Hindu organisation like RSS would keep silence if Muslim try to become majority obviously they would star campaign among Hindus to have more children. Moreover we wanted freedom both from British exploitation and from Hindu domination. As Quaid said in one his speeches "One India in an impossible realization. It will inevitably mean that the Muslims will be transferred from the domination of British to the caste Hindu rule; a position that Muslims will never accept. As an all Indian minority, we shall be under the permanent rule of the Hindu majority about 3:1 ratio which will virtually mean one nation ruling another .Such government with neither command respect nor acceptance and allegiance and such a government will be impossible. It can only function by force. It will never achieve willing support of hundreds of million Muslims." And Not Just Arabs but Afghans,Turks and Mughals and some central asians from Uzbekistan also played a role to convert us.Arabs first converted Persians and Afghans and then Afghans played a leading role in spreading Islam in Punjab. We have been listening this rhetoric since the last 68 years but guess what that's not going to happen Punjabi has survived without state patronage for thousands of years.And It will continue to survive.So you don't worry about our Punjabi.By the way thanks for showing some concern for our Punjabi.

Yeah bro you are right I think India is trying to be a Big bro in south east Asia.Anyways let's see what is the response of Myanmar govt.

Hey guys here I found something interesting India attacks so called rebels inside Myanmar territory What's your views on this ??? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33074773

Thanks for reply First of all let me make it clear we will try our best to keep Pakistan as one cuz we are not ready to accept Indian hegemony.See how India bully small neighboring states.We don't want to have same fate. Secondly You are completely wrong at saying that Pakistan is the glue which hold India united.Well bro I would like to disagree with you.As per my knowledge India is united because of Hinduism.I know you will laugh at this but that's reality.Just have look at the map of India.Muslim majority areas succeeded from India.Even Muslims of valley are struggling to get freedom from India.And Sikh majority areas once tried to succeed from India but Indian army crushed the movement with an iron hand and now this movement is almost dead in Punjab.Now come to North East of India here Christian majority states are fighting for independence Tripura , Nagaland etc. And lastly I would like to add that even If Pakistan disintegrate India would would continue as one Country cause then they will say that we have a bigger enemy CHINA. By the way assi Veto Power dy bary gal kar rai saa'n

Sat Sri Akal guyz I am very concerned at Indian govt's bid to get a permanent seat at UN security council.I have question If India gets permanent seat at security council what would happen to Khalistan Cause ?? I think then It would be extremely possible to get Khalistan. Plz share your opinions.

As far as I know the Deputy commissioner of Jammu is a Sikh Simranjeet Sikh. And in Jammu Hindu are dominant group in that district Hindus are more than 90 %.

Thank you sir for clearing my doubts about the religion of Gen Zorawar Singh.

I just want to make sure if this map of Sikh Empire is true or not.Plz guide me.Would be very thankful to you guys

Well,Koh e Noor was first stolen from modern day Andhra Pradesh.So it should be given back to India.It belongs to Indians.

Hey guyz, is it true that Sikhs conquered Gilgit,Ladakh,Baltistan and some parts of China ? And I'm not sure the man who conquered Ladakh was a Sikh or Hindu (General Zorawar Singh) many ppl say he was a Hindu Dogra.

So what about Nirankaris and Sant Bhindrawale clashes took place in 80s.